ColdSteel2
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I know them both and there are enough teams in that area as it is. They're low on the list of need IMO, even if they can support it.
Oh, I agree with what you say. And I don't think this is an "American" thing. It's marketing.
It's just that I think if you're a fan of the game (any game) it wouldn't matter so much where the teams are from. I think a fan should be more interested in things like the team's performance, excitement level of play, divisional rivalries, their place in the standings, their star players etc., regardless if if was hockey, baseball, football, basketball or lacrosse.
If you're "selling the game", then sell the game. iI people are not going to a game because the team is from Oklahoma City, Cincinnati, Edmonton or Jacksonville, then what does that say about your product and ability to sell it?
I know them both and there are enough teams in that area as it is. They're low on the list of need IMO, even if they can support it.
You can put that in the title still.I will admit that I am more interested in how the Raptors are doing against teams like the Lakers and the Heat... But that's more due to who's on the team than where the team is located. Even Pittsburgh is easier to sell to everyone because of Crosby.
So I dont know if it is a city issue, or who's on the team? Regardless, you're correct that if you really love say, the Phoenix Coyotes, who cares if they're playing NY, Toronto, LA or Hamilton?
Just going to add that when I started this discussion, I realized later I should have put in bold *This is not a discussion about Hamilton's viability or chances of obtaining an NHL team* So far it hasn't been so bad though.
America can have terrific universities and a general population that's geographically challenged. I remember kids in high school who couldn't successfully label the states, and these weren't special-needs kids, either.
Oh, I agree with what you say. And I don't think this is an "American" thing. It's marketing.
It's just that I think if you're a fan of the game (any game) it wouldn't matter so much where the teams are from. I think a fan should be more interested in things like the team's performance, excitement level of play, divisional rivalries, their place in the standings, their star players etc., regardless if if was hockey, baseball, football, basketball or lacrosse.
If you're "selling the game", then sell the game. iI people are not going to a game because the team is from Oklahoma City, Cincinnati, Edmonton or Jacksonville, then what does that say about your product and ability to sell it?
Why sell Hamilton? It's much easier to sell Philadelphia and Pittsburgh, Boston and Detroit. Do the Leafs hype Phoenix and Florida? If so, why are they much easier tickets to get than Montreal at the ACC?
Now I realize you are not the original poster, but the question was not can Americans sell hockey. It was does Hamilton have brand recognition in the US? The answer is a resounding no. What does it all mean?
To me it means that a Hamilton NHL team would be one of those unattractive games in the US that is much harder to sell. Edmonton, Calgary, Florida, Phoenix and in the past Atlanta were tough sells here.
There is nothing wrong with that. Go check out the Leafs, Oilers, Flames or Canucks board and see the complaining from fans that the only games they can get tickets to see are Florida, Columbus, Nashville...Well, Hamilton would be like those teams. Winnipeg will be too after the initial novelty wears off. It has nothing to do with Canada or the US. Ottawa, Toronto,and Montreal traditionally sell well here.
In my experience, this is the sort of thing where you have an interest in it or you don't and if you don't, your knowledge on it probably isn't all that.
Canada does export quite a bit of pop culture and entertainment to the world.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Canadians
Oh we're quite well aware of your exported entertainment:
Beiber
Nickelback
Celine Dion
Dont think these acts of aggression have gone unnoticed.
Hamilton has got to be the biggest city in NA I've never heard of. I just looked it up and was suprised that it's a bigger city than all but 4 of the big cities in California.
LA
San Diego
San Jose
San Francisco
Hamilton has got to be the biggest city in NA I've never heard of. I just looked it up and was suprised that it's a bigger city than all but 4 of the big cities in California.
LA
San Diego
San Jose
San Francisco
It's smaller than Sacramento, Bakersfield, and Fresno.
Depending on how you view greater LA it's smaller than Riverside. I get the sense that Riverside/LA is akin to Hamilton/Toronto.
That is to say, the 8th largest city in California, a state with roughly the same population as Canada, is about the same size as the 8th largest city in Canada. Makes sense to me.
Oh we're quite well aware of your exported entertainment:
Beiber
Nickelback
Celine Dion
Dont think these acts of aggression have gone unnoticed.
Not to mention the brain-washing we all got as kids from You Can't Do That on Television. There's a whole damn generation of us who still to this day every time we say "I dont know" half expect to get hit with a bucket of green oatmeal.
You just named the three worst things to come out of Canada.
Even with sarcasm, that's just painful to read.
At least mention freaking Rush!