Prospect Info: Discussion: Prospects and Marlies Thread ‎VII

[67Cup]

Rather than simply reasserting my own opinion, I'll say that I have seen fulsome praise for Dzierkals from his coach because he plays with constant edge and aggression and is defensively responsible. Given the number of wingers in the prospect pool, he has a tough road ahead of him. But it does look as if he might be able to do the things that could earn a spot in the bottom six rather than just being a scoring winger.

 

[Randy Randerson]

mckegg was a better prospect.

McKegg was a similar level of prospect, but McKegg also didn't pan out to near where we thought his potential was despite sticking in the NHL so far this year, if that continues his role will be very limited. If you wanted to say he's similar to a 2010-2011 McKegg then sure - but its not a forgone conclusion that Dzerkials won't pan out better than McKegg did

He's also a much better skater and defender than McKegg was, probably raises his chances of being able to stick in a bottom 6 role. McKegg had very legitimate skating concerns

Personally I think he has much better hands than McKegg, I don't recall McKegg being able to weave in traffic like Dzerkials does at the junior level, but that could be memory failing me

 

[X66]

oh i've seen his sexy moves.

that doesn't make him a prospect, though.

Soshnikov is an NHL player and he and Dzierkals have a very similar style.

 

[zeke]

say you guys are right.

what is stopping him from producing in junior?

 

[SprDaVE]

I was never really that high on Dzierkals. I've seen him play many times. I'm not sure he will translate very well to the pro level. I've been wrong before though.

 

[Gabriel426]

Just wondering since I am usually boxscore watching and just reading comments here about our prospects.

Beside Kap(as I seen him many times), can guys like Tima, Dzierkals, Bracco and others be convert to C?

 

[Stringer Bell]

say you guys are right.

what is stopping him from producing in junior?

He leads his team in points per game and has 12 goals in 19 games, which is a huge improvement over last year's 24 goals in 59 games. You seem to love pacing stats over an 82 game season so I wouldn't dare take that away from you.

Seems to be producing just fine.

 

[Randy Randerson]

say you guys are right.

what is stopping him from producing in junior?

What do you consider good production for a 3rd round pick? 1.135ppg last year, 1.368ppg this year. He got a lot of defensive deployment in the memorial cup, I think there was some of that last year and some this year too

he was 32nd in scoring in an 18 team league last year, 3rd in scoring on his own QMJHL champion/memorial cup finalist team (Timo Meier was close in significantly less games, call it 4th on the 2nd best team in the CHL if you want). He's stepped that up to 2nd in scoring and 1st in ppg on his team this year

for a 3rd round pick, this all looks really positive to me...we're spoiled right now with many of our CHL draft picks doing serious damage in the last 2 years, but still I don't think Dzerkials looks disappointing at all right now

 

[Bullseye]

What do you consider good production for a 3rd round pick? 1.135ppg last year, 1.368ppg this year. He got a lot of defensive deployment in the memorial cup, I think there was some of that last year and some this year too

he was 32nd in scoring in an 18 team league last year, 3rd in scoring on his own QMJHL champion/memorial cup finalist team (Timo Meier was close in significantly less games, call it 4th on the 2nd best team in the CHL if you want). He's stepped that up to 2nd in scoring and 1st in ppg on his team this year

for a 3rd round pick, this all looks really positive to me...we're spoiled right now with many of our CHL draft picks doing serious damage in the last 2 years, but still I don't think Dzerkials looks disappointing at all right now

Connor Brown set the mark with 129 points from a 6th round pick

I'm a smart ass of course because that is highly unusual.

Dzierkals is doing great.

 

[Bullseye]

Isn't even in the three stars. Decided to give it to Mascherin, who only had 1 G and 2A, then a young guy who had 2G and 2A and a defenseman with 1G and 2A. Bracco with a hat trick probably should have been 1st star... But nah I guess

As usual - they do this so often! Not sure what bias they are employing.

 

[Stringer Bell]

As usual - they do this so often! Not sure what bias they are employing.

Well to be fair Bracco's third goal was an empty net goal.

 

[stanleyorbust]

Its probably buried somewhere in here but what happened with Vladimir Bobylyov going to the KHL?

Did the team know he was going back before drafting him?

 

[Walshy7]

Its probably buried somewhere in here but what happened with Vladimir Bobylyov going to the KHL?

Did the team know he was going back before drafting him?

there is a Russian fan in here somewhere he is really good for any leafs prospect in the K. Caser? I think that's it

 

[Mad Brills*]

The matt martin signing is preventing leipsic from the nhl, which ugh.....

 

[Macallan18]

Dzierkals plays with a lot of grit, and has good speed and hands.
In 19 games he has 12 goals and 14 assists.
14th in scoring, but with a couple of fewer games played, so could easily movie into top ten scoring.
His coach loves him, and he played great in the playoffs last year.
I would suggest it's a little early to write him off.

 

[Macallan18]

The matt martin signing is preventing leipsic from the nhl, which ugh.....

Matt Martin, what a slug!!!! Boneheaded signing.
Would rather play Leipsic all day long.

 

[Walshy7]

Matt Martin, what a slug!!!! Boneheaded signing.
Would rather play Leipsic all day long.

eh I don't have a problem with Martin and even then I think we are looking at a Arcobello, Kozun type with Leipsic, I have no idea why I think this but I do and I like martin better on the 4th line in any case

 

[Caser]

Its probably buried somewhere in here but what happened with Vladimir Bobylyov going to the KHL?

Did the team know he was going back before drafting him?

He just thought that it would be better for him to further develop in a pro league, but unfortunately he has been nothing but dissapointment so far.

 

[Ramboshaw]

Jesper Lindgren with a goal in today's game.

 

[Menzinger]

Bracco continues to have a monster of a season. Looking forward to seeing him et more respect on Leafs prospect rankings

The matt martin signing is preventing leipsic from the nhl, which ugh.....

Yeah. He's goingo to be a roster spot obstacle for young guys for the next 4 seasons. Which is why I hate the contract.

 

[SprDaVE]

Nielsen starting to turn some heads. I don't see him up with the Leafs this season, unless we're stacked with injuries, but I think he'll have a good chance next season.

I do see a lot similarities to Cody Franson. Nielsen is more engaged physically though.

 

[zeke]

What do you consider good production for a 3rd round pick? 1.135ppg last year, 1.368ppg this year. He got a lot of defensive deployment in the memorial cup, I think there was some of that last year and some this year too

he was 32nd in scoring in an 18 team league last year, 3rd in scoring on his own QMJHL champion/memorial cup finalist team (Timo Meier was close in significantly less games, call it 4th on the 2nd best team in the CHL if you want). He's stepped that up to 2nd in scoring and 1st in ppg on his team this year

for a 3rd round pick, this all looks really positive to me...we're spoiled right now with many of our CHL draft picks doing serious damage in the last 2 years, but still I don't think Dzerkials looks disappointing at all right now

1.2ppg in your 18yr old season is a pretty firm minimum for me.

1.35 is near the minimum for 19.

but that kind of production doesn't leave much hope for nhl 2nd line production.

 

[Menzinger]

Nielsen starting to turn some heads. I don't see him up with the Leafs this season, unless we're stacked with injuries, but I think he'll have a good chance next season.

I do see a lot similarities to Cody Franson. Nielsen is more engaged physically though.

Could be a nice sleeper pick by Hunter.

Franson was a decent defensemen - big problem was he couldn't skate. If Nielsen has his puck skills plus increased mobility and physicality he'll be a very useful player for the Leafs moving forward

 

[93LEAFS]

1.2ppg in your 18yr old season is a pretty firm minimum for me.

1.35 is near the minimum for 19.

but that kind of production doesn't leave much hope for nhl 2nd line production.

In regards to forwards, what the Leafs need to do is develop a constant stream of cheap replacements, and hope to hit the occasional homer-run. If we get a top 9 forward in the 3rd round that is a good pick.

 

[Mad Brills*]

Nielsen getting a call post deadline wouldn't be shocking....