Blue Jays Discussion: Dioner Navarro: The Anti-JP continues
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A sweep here would be big, just drive the Sox deeper into the hole. We have to start putting our foot down on the throats of our AL east rivals. Don't take a game off against these guys, yeah we've already won the series but a sweep would be so sweet.
Heading into this series, I thought winning at 2 or sweeping the series could mean there is some legitimacy to this team and its chances this year. Losing 2 or getting swept would have made it seem like the same old, same old.
They already got the 2; it'd be nice if they finish them off and sweep them. Just how the team has conducted itself lately is suggesting things may indeed be different this year. Here's hoping, as things are wide open and ripe for the picking.
They already got the 2; it'd be nice if they finish them off and sweep them. Just how the team has conducted itself lately is suggesting things may indeed be different this year. Here's hoping, as things are wide open and ripe for the picking.
Swervin81
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I said 2 starters because I've still got reservations about Happ and especially Morrow. I don't entirely disagree with you. I'm just saying that it's early, one losing streak can send us free falling right out of contention. If Happ keeps up what he's doing now or Morrow returns to 2012 form, then I'd gladly give up some quality farm assets for a bonafide #1 like Shark. We already have restored the farm system to what will be top 10 after this coming draft in just a year and a half after gutting it. I don't doubt us being able to do the same if we gutted it for top end starters. I'm not opposed to start betting aggressively or even going all in, especially if we are at the top by deadline day, but I just have reservations. As everyone knows, I'm a pessimist and cynic, so I always think about worst case scenario and I'm probably going too deep into this. Second nature of being a Leafs fan, I suppose
I said 2 starters because I've still got reservations about Happ and especially Morrow. I don't entirely disagree with you. I'm just saying that it's early, one losing streak can send us free falling right out of contention. If Happ keeps up what he's doing now or Morrow returns to 2012 form, then I'd gladly give up some quality farm assets for a bonafide #1 like Shark. We already have restored the farm system to what will be top 10 after this coming draft in just a year and a half after gutting it. I don't doubt us being able to do the same if we gutted it for top end starters. I'm not opposed to start betting aggressively or even going all in, especially if we are at the top by deadline day, but I just have reservations. As everyone knows, I'm a pessimist and cynic, so I always think about worst case scenario and I'm probably going too deep into this. Second nature of being a Leafs fan, I suppose
nah I'm the same, it's why I wasn't too optimistic about this team heading into the season. The sports teams in this city keep building up the fans but never deliver so this season I was like I'm just going to let all the hype go right by me and not take anything in until I actually see what this team is going to do. We got off to a rough start and obviously I kind of chuckled because just like last year this team wasn't playing up to expectations, until the last 2-3 weeks where we're really starting to see this team come together. I still have my own reservations, but at the same time I'm not going to ignore how good this team has been lately. They have to continue it though. I want this team to take some risks at the deadline if we're in it. Don't sit back and be spectators, it's ok to be more than just good. Be great, get better become a contender, at least try and become one. So we blow the farm for one year...big whoop we'll replenish the system in June at the draft. People get so worked up about the farm, but every year there is a draft. There's new kids every year. If Shark is available go for him, go get him. Improve the big club.
Have a bet with my buddy, I said if the Jays sweep Boston here, Jays make the playoffs, he thinks they won't. I think they're finally coming around and playing to their potential. Its like people forget that two offseasons ago, everyone was ready to hand us the world series. Then one bad season and were perceived as awful. I think it's just taken some time for them to grow as a team.
it wasn't just having one bad season, we missed the mark completely on what was expected of this team. Yes we were overhyped but damn we couldn't even reach 80 freakin wins. People had every right to rip this team apart. We just have to continue this, be consistent no long losing streaks. If we lose a series come back and win the next, don't let it snowball. We're right there at the top, run with it.
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Sorry Nem/mods. Didn't see this thread originally. The lack of bluejays discussion tag fooled me. Do what you will.
Eyedea
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Also usually get lit up at Tropicana...and is a notoriously slow starter. Oh the beauties of baseball.
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Value's there. Though Cleveland would most likely rather have two pitching prospects than the outfield prospect. Offer them Deck and Nolin.
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I think Kluber might be able to fetch more than that. Not a free agent until 2019 so its hard to see Indians trading a young pitcher who is doing well.
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I'm a little confused about how this thread came into being. It's a merger of Everlong's thread made because the last discussion one hit 100 posts. but it also pulled posts from the GDT which is only at 172 posts right now and took the 1st post out of the last discussion thread and kept the same title for some reason. Does this mean we're going back to the mono-thread approach? Or should the GDT still be ready to go for the game tonight?
meanwhile, back on track: interesting piece about Edwin and his screwy route from being DFA'd to being one of the most dangerous hitters in baseball.
http://espn.go.com/blog/sweetspot/post/_/id/47518/edwin-encarnacion-one-of-baseballs-best
(and then you get down into the stupid comments full of "roids!!!" accusations, but we'll just ignore those)
meanwhile, back on track: interesting piece about Edwin and his screwy route from being DFA'd to being one of the most dangerous hitters in baseball.
http://espn.go.com/blog/sweetspot/post/_/id/47518/edwin-encarnacion-one-of-baseballs-best
(and then you get down into the stupid comments full of "roids!!!" accusations, but we'll just ignore those
)
Swervin81
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It's the ESPN comments section. The same one that was accusing the NBA of righing the Nets-Raps series because of Drake. Yeah, I mean, that Jay Z guy is totally not even that popular, nowhere near Drake 
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It's the ESPN comments section. The same one that was accusing the NBA of righing the Nets-Raps series because of Drake. Yeah, I mean, that Jay Z guy is totally not even that popular, nowhere near Drake
Take it from me; American sports fans tend to not be the sharpest tools in the shed.
Eyedea
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Beede, 41 BB in 90.1 IP this year (+ 12 HBP). 55 BB in 94 IP in '13. 13 BB in 14 IP for Team USA last summer.
Beede, 41 BB in 90.1 IP this year (+ 12 HBP). 55 BB in 94 IP in '13. 13 BB in 14 IP for Team USA last summer.
It's not like Gomes is an all-star. The guy has nine errors this season. Yeah, he's better than he seemed at the time, but that's baseball. It could have easily turned out the other way, given Rogers' arm. There are better moves to complain about than Gomes deal; every GM has multiple trades like this that don't quite work out.
As for the Gose replacing Rasmus talk, it's WAY too premature. I think it's best to keep him on in a Rajai Davis-type role when Colby returns and see how he does. Doesn't seem like he's benefiting from spending more time in the minors, so let's see what we've got in him to make a better decision regarding Rasmus in the off-season.
Keith Law's been talking of makeup problems with Beede lately. He may be in for a precipitous drop.
Swervin81
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which is why i hope we stay away if he drops.
Nola shot up to 5 in the updated rankings
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Well, I hope it turns out how it did in Tropicana for him this year. But his one really bad start this year did come against the Sox.
Eyedea
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Imagine if Beede dropped and the Jays got him again. He still wouldn't sign
Jays lucked out getting Stroman with the comp pick. What. A. Steal.
If the Jays snag Hoffman at 11 this year, then wow. Well done AA.
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