Confirmed with Link: Dhaliwal: Markstrom out 3 - 4 weeks

[I am toxic]

It's been a awhile since we had a goalie controversy in Vancouver anyways. We need something new to discuss to the bitter end.

Ahh, goalie controversy . . . music to my toxic ears

 

[WetcoastOrca]

Ahh, goalie controversy . . . music to my toxic ears

Thank god we don’t have an outdoor game anytime soon!

 

[PG Canuck]

Then we are actually pretty close.

I agree with the first half of this. I would have been using them as a duo much more.

I am not scared of a Markstrom contract as I think if you sign him for 5 years, you just need him to play to a level of the contract for the first 3. I think a 5 year extension means you are trading Demko, and hoping Depietro is the next in line, and two season in the 4 and 5 year of Markstrom his contract should be low.

However if Demko proves to be ready for the starter, I think you walk away from Markstrom.

Yeah I'm not rubbing one win of Demko in peoples face - I mean, unless they want to dog Demko after one goal against and say "this is why we need Markstrom" and then Demko goes on to post a .925SV% with 37 saves in that same game, then I will throw it back at people a little bit.

I am more so just hoping Demko can take the reigns here and run with it, mostly because we are tight on cap space and he is the cheaper/cost controlled/team controlled/younger goalie and keeping him as the starter would really help the cap situation moving forward.

 

[racerjoe]

Yeah I'm not rubbing one win of Demko in peoples face - I mean, unless they want to dog Demko after one goal against and say "this is why we need Markstrom" and then Demko goes on to post a .925SV% with 37 saves in that same game, then I will throw it back at people a little bit.

I am more so just hoping Demko can take the reigns here and run with it, mostly because we are tight on cap space and he is the cheaper/cost controlled/team controlled/younger goalie and keeping him as the starter would really help the cap situation moving forward.

I really like Demko and always have. I am more scared of injury with him. He hasn't been able to stay healthy. Fingers crossed.

 

[4Twenty]

Yeah I'm not rubbing one win of Demko in peoples face - I mean, unless they want to dog Demko after one goal against and say "this is why we need Markstrom" and then Demko goes on to post a .925SV% with 37 saves in that same game, then I will throw it back at people a little bit.

I am more so just hoping Demko can take the reigns here and run with it, mostly because we are tight on cap space and he is the cheaper/cost controlled/team controlled/younger goalie and keeping him as the starter would really help the cap situation moving forward.

I know most people don’t look that far in advance but what happens if Demko is a top 10 starter?

A top 10 starter with arb rights, Pettersson and Hughes all needing contracts in the same year? If that happens Demko would minimally get Hellebucyk/Gibson money possibly Vasilevski?

the cap problems persist they’re just down the line a year and potentially the young spine of the team will all need monster Deals at the same time.

 

[bandwagonesque]

I know most people don’t look that far in advance but what happens if Demko is a top 10 starter?

A top 10 starter with arb rights, Pettersson and Hughes all needing contracts in the same year? If that happens Demko would minimally get Hellebucyk/Gibson money possibly Vasilevski?

the cap problems persist they’re just down the line a year and potentially the young spine of the team will all need monster Deals at the same time.

Then he'll have been far cheaper than Markstrom in the intervening years and an excellent outcome for a 2nd round pick. You're complaining about the best possible outcome by raising the spectre of a limitation that is always there anyway.

 

[4Twenty]

Then he'll have been far cheaper than Markstrom in the intervening years and an excellent outcome for a 2nd round pick. You're complaining about the best possible outcome by raising the spectre of a limitation that is always there anyway.

I’m not complaining. He’ll only be cheaper than Markstrom for next season.

my purpose was to show that keeping Demko over Markstrom isn’t without its issues down the line. You know this.

I thought it was worth contributing to the discussion

 

[Diversification]

I know most people don’t look that far in advance but what happens if Demko is a top 10 starter?

A top 10 starter with arb rights, Pettersson and Hughes all needing contracts in the same year? If that happens Demko would minimally get Hellebucyk/Gibson money possibly Vasilevski?

the cap problems persist they’re just down the line a year and potentially the young spine of the team will all need monster Deals at the same time.

Then he'll be a starter with a single season as his main body of work. That alone should keep his costs down. In that case, he would be a good fit for a bridge show-me contract.

 

[bandwagonesque]

I’m not complaining. He’ll only be cheaper than Markstrom for next season.

my purpose was to show that keeping Demko over Markstrom isn’t without its issues down the line. You know this.

I thought it was worth contributing to the discussion

By this meaningless standard literally any course of action, even if it's far better than any alternative, has "issues." And having a fair bit of experience reading your posts, I don't think you're simply being thorough.

 

[4Twenty]

Then he'll be a starter with a single season as his main body of work. That alone should keep his costs down. In that case, he would be a good fit for a bridge show-me contract.

Yeah but I don’t think it’s ideal to be needing to give 3 key pieces fairly large deals in what we’re hoping is a Stanley Cup window. It would be awesome if Thatcher did that but clearly it’s not a given.

You could say he’s a good fit for a show-me and that would be ideal but we don’t know how it’ll play out. You’re still needing $25ish mill to sign all 3. Obviously things can change dramatically over time but the cap problems are likely to persist.

 

[4Twenty]

double. Delete.

 

[4Twenty]

By this meaningless standard literally any course of action, even if it's far better than any alternative, has "issues." And having a fair bit of experience reading your posts, I don't think you're simply being thorough.

I couldn’t really care less what you think your experience reading my posts tells you.

it’s another angle to discuss in the future Canucks Crease.

It might be in the wrong thread though.

 

[Diversification]

Yeah but I don’t think it’s ideal to be needing to give 3 key pieces fairly large deals in what we’re hoping is a Stanley Cup window. It would be awesome if Thatcher did that but clearly it’s not a given.

You could say he’s a good fit for a show-me and that would be ideal but we don’t know how it’ll play out. You’re still needing $25ish mill to sign all 3. Obviously things can change dramatically over time but the cap problems are likely to persist.

Agreed. This is going to be an ongoing thing that will take some years to resolve.

 

[F A N]

The Lack situation was different. He was playing the tougher starts, then proved it with his play down the stretch.

That's the problem with that kind of thinking. Guys like Ryan Miller and Luongo have proven themselves year after year as upper echelon #1 goalies. There are plenty of flash in the pan goalies who manage to play very well as backup goalies and for short stretches when they have the ball.

 

[racerjoe]

That's the problem with that kind of thinking. Guys like Ryan Miller and Luongo have proven themselves year after year as upper echelon #1 goalies. There are plenty of flash in the pan goalies who manage to play very well as backup goalies and for short stretches when they have the ball.

So from this can I take it you won't letting Markstrom go and run with Demko?