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Rumor: Dhaliwal - Canucks will now take best offer for Horvat
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Horvat is going to get comically overpaid because he's having an insane year this year.
He's a 2nd line center on a good team and some crazy team is going to pay him $8 million a year.
He's a 2nd line center on a good team and some crazy team is going to pay him $8 million a year.
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I just listened to Rick Dhaliwal on TV, he said that the Canucks latest offer was rejected, it was just short of $8 million, Canucks have gone as far as possible for the organization, and WILL be taking best offer for Horvat before the deadline
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Gonna be gross when he gets over 8 mill a year lol
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Wow. Good decision in my opinion, I only wish they had done this with Miller first. Its a long shot but hopefully that can still trade JT too before his ntc kicks in.
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Not sure based on comparable players that 8 million is crazy. He’s played well before this year and been a beast in the playoffs. Scoring centre who is elite at face offs…. Those players will always get paid.
Horvat I’m guessing signs for something similar to what the Canucks offered…. He’s given 10 years to this trash team and gotten nothing back other than a slap in the face when they signed Miller first….
Don’t blame him at all, he’s been great.
I could see Columbus paying him they won't want to waste Laine and Johnny hockey
Question is, would you rather have Miller or Horvat at 8M?
Miller has scored more in the last few years but is sometimes a clown defensively. Horvat scores less but is better defensively. Absolute faceoff ace. Horvat is 2 years younger and team captain.
Obviously this ship has sailed but Miller really should have been dealt instead.
Miller has scored more in the last few years but is sometimes a clown defensively. Horvat scores less but is better defensively. Absolute faceoff ace. Horvat is 2 years younger and team captain.
Obviously this ship has sailed but Miller really should have been dealt instead.
When you look at his historical numbers and the line mates he played with and the consistency of his numbers he's better than his previous years suggest I would say.
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With this analysis, Red Wings would choose Horvat. I would love it if they could trade for him, hopefully for a sign and trade. We would have a great 1C 2C 3C lineup and that's surprising to even think about because we never really had good center depth for the past 5-7 years or so.
It's too bad it went this way with Horvat. I liked the guy, and was hoping he'd be a Canuck for a long time, but we can't afford to be paying a great 2C as if he were a 1C.
I don't think Horvat can continue this sort of goal scoring pace. I think he'll go back to being a ~30 goal, 65 point center next season. I'd pay him just over 7mil, but anything more than that is overpayment.
I wonder what we'll be able to get for the guy, hopefully we can maximize some sort of return.
I don't think Horvat can continue this sort of goal scoring pace. I think he'll go back to being a ~30 goal, 65 point center next season. I'd pay him just over 7mil, but anything more than that is overpayment.
I wonder what we'll be able to get for the guy, hopefully we can maximize some sort of return.
Dhaliwal is probably the only guy around the Canucks that I would put any stock in.
I wouldn't go much, if anything,over 8 for Horvat, so depending on what his ask is, I'm fine to move on. I do think that one side will budge enough to make a deal happen in Vancouver though.
Canucks have a few days off before heading to Calgary, I do expect that a move or two will happen before that, there has been too much smoke surrounding the team to be quiet up until the trade freeze.
I wouldn't go much, if anything,over 8 for Horvat, so depending on what his ask is, I'm fine to move on. I do think that one side will budge enough to make a deal happen in Vancouver though.
Canucks have a few days off before heading to Calgary, I do expect that a move or two will happen before that, there has been too much smoke surrounding the team to be quiet up until the trade freeze.
Honestly, 8 mil for Bo is not that bad.
He’s not a top line center, but he’s the perfect 2C. With the cap going up soon I don’t think it’s as outlandish as everyone’s making it seem.
He’s not a top line center, but he’s the perfect 2C. With the cap going up soon I don’t think it’s as outlandish as everyone’s making it seem.
Whatever the "best offer" for Horvat is.
It means this team is done for the year. It also suggests that they knew which is why we saw Miller at centre yesterday during practice.
It doesn't matter what they suggest or do. They do not have a centre to take Horvats draws, d-zone starts or replicate his scoring.
The moment he is gone, we go from losing a few to losing the majority.
That would mean the most common sense thing to do afterwards is also cash in on Schenn and Kuzmenko.
I would also go even further to suggest that trading Boeser for a moderate return by taking back a similar shorter term contract on a non productive player is also a smart move. If Myers can also be moved for a moderate return by taking back a shorter term comparable contract of the same type of non productive player they do it.
The writing is on the wall for this team once Horvat is gone and management can accept that they can weaponize the cap space they can garner by smart trades and short term pain to retool around Hughes/Pettersson/Demko and Podkolzin over the next 2-3 seasons or they can continue doing the same thing the organization has done for a decade and hope for different results.
This is where it gets interesting for the Canucks fans and team builders out there
It means this team is done for the year. It also suggests that they knew which is why we saw Miller at centre yesterday during practice.
It doesn't matter what they suggest or do. They do not have a centre to take Horvats draws, d-zone starts or replicate his scoring.
The moment he is gone, we go from losing a few to losing the majority.
That would mean the most common sense thing to do afterwards is also cash in on Schenn and Kuzmenko.
I would also go even further to suggest that trading Boeser for a moderate return by taking back a similar shorter term contract on a non productive player is also a smart move. If Myers can also be moved for a moderate return by taking back a shorter term comparable contract of the same type of non productive player they do it.
The writing is on the wall for this team once Horvat is gone and management can accept that they can weaponize the cap space they can garner by smart trades and short term pain to retool around Hughes/Pettersson/Demko and Podkolzin over the next 2-3 seasons or they can continue doing the same thing the organization has done for a decade and hope for different results.
This is where it gets interesting for the Canucks fans and team builders out there
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I think it’s important that this report is coming from Rick, there’s no better source for Vancouver insider news than him.
Should have been. But by the way those tweets are worded, the management group stated that the Miller deal handcuffed them in regards to Horvat. Possibly buyers remorse?
Miller absolutely should have gone last year during a career year for the best possible return but for whatever reason they didn't pull the trigger and are now going to find some regret with Captain lackadaisical for the next 8 years worth of him Kovaleving on plays
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He’s shooting 21.5% this season, which is well above anything he’s done in the past. Buyer beware on him.
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The reason it is outlandish is that their agents started by asking for the Couturier contract (Friedman like two months ago), and this report indicates that they seemingly offered him that... and they said no.
Which means either they've upped their asking price, which was already very high given that agents will pick the best comparable while the team will pick the most favorable and usually work their way to a compromise.
Now their best comparable wasn't good enough. That's a big change. Either he is desperate to move on and the offer we made really didn't matter at this point (believable) or his agents have upped their asking price given his hot start and the fact the canucks decreased their leverage over the past few months (also believable). Or both.
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Glad they clarified the Canucks would take the best offer for horvat because as a canucks fan I've gotten pretty used to them taking what I can only assume has been the worst offer.
He will take around 8mil somewhere else. He wants out and that makes it pretty easy to say no to any offer.
Put him as Colorado or Carolina's 2C at $8 million and he slots great for a win-now team.
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Blasphemy that UrbanImpact didn’t create this thread.
