Devils090
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L-o-effing-l at the people who prefer Kinkaid to Schneider
Anybody that prefers KK over Cory is either trolling, or they suffer from short term memory loss.L-o-effing-l at the people who prefer Kinkaid to Schneider
I see what you did there.Dude, second home loss to the future Nouveau-Nordiques this year. Not a good look, brah.
L-o-effing-l at the people who prefer Kinkaid to Schneider
I think it's okay to say ''Yeah, I prefer Keith to Cory during a particular stretch of games where one is hot and the other isn't'', but as far as who is better overall? It's still Cory.Anybody that prefers KK over Cory is either trolling, or they suffer from short term memory loss.
If one thinks Schneider is awful then one must think Kinkaid is a steaming pile of dogshit...just going by simple logic and basic stats.Even at Blockaid's worst I like him more than Corey. It is unfortunate to have to be the first goalie to follow Brodeur. HF main and other naysayers can argue, but Broduer is GOAT. His abilities changed the game. Watching the Devils transition to Schneider was brutal. Still to this day the Devils' Defense seems to struggle with Schneider in net because of his shortcomings and he struggles with soft goals. This guy can't buy a shutout. "Worst" goalies have more shutouts yearly. Plus, in my opinion there is a difference between keeping a team in a game and stealing a game. Corey might come up with a big save or two after he let in two goals to make it 3-3, rarer are the games were it's definitely the teams fault and he gets the W.
Congrats to Hall. Happy to see Bratt score, Maroon with 2 pts. This team is painfully streaky. Just Win in Carolina...
I agree with you on Marty, but disagree on Cory and the defense struggling due to his shortcomings. Schneider was a fantastic goalie his first few seasons here. He could have won the Vezina in 14-15 and 15-16, if those teams were as good as this one. It wasn’t a brutal transition. Of course he’s a much different goaltender than Marty, but that’s goaltending in 2018. That’s how it is in the new millennium NHL. The Marty-like tenders have gone the way of the dodo and quite frankly they’re not effective in the modern game. Only Jonathan Quick has that element and is effective while doing it. The 1993-2010 Brodeur would have been effective in today’s game, but that’s because he’s the GOAT. We’re living in a butterfly goalie world and that’s likely to be the case for the next couple of decades.Even at Blockaid's worst I like him more than Corey. It is unfortunate to have to be the first goalie to follow Brodeur. HF main and other naysayers can argue, but Broduer is GOAT. His abilities changed the game. Watching the Devils transition to Schneider was brutal. Still to this day the Devils' Defense seems to struggle with Schneider in net because of his shortcomings and he struggles with soft goals. This guy can't buy a shutout. "Worst" goalies have more shutouts yearly. Plus, in my opinion there is a difference between keeping a team in a game and stealing a game. Corey might come up with a big save or two after he let in two goals to make it 3-3, rarer are the games were it's definitely the teams fault and he gets the W.
Congrats to Hall. Happy to see Bratt score, Maroon with 2 pts. This team is painfully streaky. Just Win in Carolina...
I think we have one win there since the 2012 playoffs. It was their opening night in 2014, when Severson scored his first goal and Luongo coughed up a bunch of point shot goals and we were up 5-0 early in the 2nd period and he got yanked.We never win down there.
I think we have one win there since the 2012 playoffs. It was their opening night in 2014, when Severson scored his first goal and Luongo coughed up a bunch of point shot goals and we were up 5-0 early in the 2nd period and he got yanked.
NOPE!I almost forgot, we can't blame tonight on our convenient scapegoat cause you didn't go this time
The biggest cause for concern is that he's allowed 3+ goals in all of these games.Cory is 0 for his last 8. That is ****ing ridiculous.
Kinkaid did better than Cory statistically last year because he only played 25 games and Cory played like close to 60? I don't think Kinkaid is a .916 goaltender playing 50+ games last year, I just don't. Stranger freak occurrences have happened, but the smart money seems to make me think that he wouldn't have.Kinkaid has been terrible at times but when he does well, I like him better. My own opinion. The team seems to play better with him. Right Now, minus the Hockey spread Schneider is 17-18. Kinkaid 15-10. He started off well with the Devils but the last two seasons have been crappy. Kinkaid beat him statistically last year. Devils got a new coach and while he has done better statistically he should be better because the team is better. As a starter hi is 50/50, Meh mundane, boring, so so, ok, fine. 3 shutouts in two years. He is 30 something in GAA, all most 30 something in SV%. 1 Shutout..Maybe we have two great backups.
I don't think he necessarily has to be a .920 goaltender anymore, but I'd like a .915-.916 out of him, rather than this .908 or .913 or somewhere in between that. .910 over the last 96 starts and if we cut out October of 2016 where he was pretty damn good, it's probably like .905-.907 over the last 85-86 games.Cory has shown how good he can be, his save % between 2013 and 2016 were .921, .925, and .924. He was outstanding. The team was terrible, he got ZERO support from the offense but he constantly held us in games. It was a thankless job.
Last year and so far this year I believe have been plagued by injuries. Last year I'm certain that hip was barking all year (and we iced a miserable team) and was bothering him this year when he also sustained a groin injury. I'm giving him a pass for his recent play but now he's back, now he's healthy, now the team is better and ready to take off.
He absolutely must return to old form and start being a .920+ goalie again. Because if he's not and he can't and he's legitimately declining then he doesn't have a place on this team going forward as its undisputed #1 starter. We can't be paying him the salary that he earns for this kind of performance. This team is ready to take off and we need to know soon if we can roll with Cory confidently into the future or if we need to start looking for a goalie asap. These next 18 games will be telling.
The biggest cause for concern is that he's allowed 3+ goals in all of these games.
If he lost 8 in a row while allowing 1-2 goals in 5 or 6 of those 8 games, it wouldn't be as much cause for concern.
The wins/losses from a goalie mean nothing to me without context behind it. If they did, Nabokov wins the 2008 Vezina over a far superior goaltender, who had 2 fewer wins than him in one fewer start.
That's not defending Cory at all, just saying the problem is that he's let in 3 or more goals in 8 straight starts, not that he's lost them. Too much credence is put into a goalies win/loss record around here by many of you. Almost to the point where a goalie losing a game 2-1 or 1-0 is automatically worse on him than winning a game 4-3 or 5-4.
The idea that Wins and Losses don't mean much works if you believe those particular stats are team stats and goalies have little influence on the outcome. And I would tend to agree.
But it's hard to ignore that we have one goalie that's winning 60% of his starts and another that is winning 47% of his.
Anybody that prefers KK over Cory is either trolling, or they suffer from short term memory loss.
Actually its the other way around.
Since December 15th:
Keith Kinkaid
2.69 GAA
10-5-2
.908 save %
Corey Schneider
3.10 GAA
5-6-2
.897 save %
But everyone continue on with the same narrative.
Like how you cherry picked the games where Cory was playing hurt and sick.