Devils Team Discussion (current team/player news and notes) ‎2014-2015 Part XV

[tycobb]

Does anyone have, or know where I can find, like a day-to-day look at the Devils penalty kill stats?

Like I want to see how the Devils have been since they were at their utter worst during the PK. I know it was hovering close to 60 percent for a while, the fact that it's 80% right now is pretty remarkable if you ask me.

Best I can find is month breakdown.

Oct - 68.2%
Nov - 80.4%
Dec - 88.9%
Jan - 83.9%

 

[devilsblood]

Best I can find is month breakdown.

Oct - 68.2%
Nov - 80.4%
Dec - 88.9%
Jan - 83.9%

It literally turned around the day Sal got hurt and Lars was inserted on the PK unit.

Edit: so Nov 11th.

Double edit: prior to the 11th, in November the Devils killed 8 of 15 penalties, including at least one sh goal in every game of the month.

 

[Zippy316]

It literally turned around the day Sal got hurt and Lars was inserted on the PK unit.

Edit: so Nov 11th.

Double edit: prior to the 11th, in November the Devils killed 8 of 15 penalties, including at least one sh goal in every game of the month.

What was the Devils total as of the 11th.

By that I mean the penalty kill percentage, if you have that it won't be hard to figure out the rest.

 

[R8Devs]

straight up everyone on this team should be for sale except Elias, Severson, Larsson, and Schneider.

They need a revamped core, improving the current one won't work.

 

[StvBroDan]

So Lou in your observation time what do we need to do. Other then sell half the team that is.

 

[StvBroDan]

OKAY figured it would be full by morning.

 

[StvBroDan]

You know whats really bad NJ26 Super early is 965? In good times that would be eaten up in 20min. Thanks Lou your screwing everything up.

 

[njdevils1982]

Does anyone have, or know where I can find, like a day-to-day look at the Devils penalty kill stats?

Like I want to see how the Devils have been since they were at their utter worst during the PK. I know it was hovering close to 60 percent for a while, the fact that it's 80% right now is pretty remarkable if you ask me.

this shows game by game …you would have to do some math yourself….. sorry, best i got

http://espn.go.com/nhl/team/schedule/_/name/nj/new-jersey-devils

 

[NJDevs26]

this shows game by game …you would have to do some math yourself….. sorry, best i got

http://espn.go.com/nhl/team/schedule/_/name/nj/new-jersey-devils

Sal got hurt November 10, so 38-59 (64.4%) with him in the lineup, 139/174 overall according to NHL.com so that would be 101-115 (87.8%) since his injury.

I like Sal but yikes that's scary

 

[Eggtimer]

Does anyone have, or know where I can find, like a day-to-day look at the Devils penalty kill stats?

Like I want to see how the Devils have been since they were at their utter worst during the PK. I know it was hovering close to 60 percent for a while, the fact that it's 80% right now is pretty remarkable if you ask me.

*Cough Cough* Salvador *cough*
Teams would set up their PP around isolating Salvador and dominated the crap out of him.
Even I could pre-scout the Devils for other teams "Ya , on the PP just isolate Sal down low , pylon him with speed or corkscrew him into the ice with a give and go down low. Don't worry about defensive schemes , they don't have anyone under 40 that can score besides Cams , and he's hurt. "

 

[Wilbur*]

******

 

[Bleedred]

Our call ups have been an even bigger joke than the guys we already have up.

Fraser? ****slo? Tostitos?

Joe Whitney barely got a look. Can anyone honestly think Whitney and Timmins (I know he's injured) would be worse than the junk that got significant ice time for us?

Helgeson was also better than POS Fraser.

 

[Benedict Parisechuk]

Jagr needs to be gone no matter what, even if it's for a mid rounder. I really can't take much more of him. Bringing him back for next season would be a gigantic mistake.

 

[ScottyK]

Lot of Pens fans on twitter want to do a 2nd and Sunqvist for Jagr.

Sign me up

 

[R8Devs]

i would take that in a sec, too bad that they're not Jim Rutherford. Although that deal makes sense.

we need more skellefteå kids

 

[Bleedred]

Jagr needs to be gone no matter what, even if it's for a mid rounder. I really can't take much more of him. Bringing him back for next season would be a gigantic mistake.

Ugh I'm starting to not be too happy with him myself.

Hopefully it's just rust from sitting out sick for so long.

 

[Benedict Parisechuk]

Ugh I'm starting to not be too happy with him myself.

Hopefully it's just rust from sitting out sick for so long.

I don't think its rust. The guy is just ancient. He's been lazy and inconsistent all year, which is understandable. Father time is on line 1.

 

[Bleedred]

I don't think its rust. The guy is just ancient. He's been lazy and inconsistent all year, which is understandable. Father time is on line 1.

As sad as it is, I think I'd still take Jagr over Zubrus. I'd even take having Havlat back over Zubrus next year.

The most ideal situation is that none of these guys are back and we're able to sign or trade or even draft someone to replace Jagr's production.

I'm deathly afraid that Zubrus will be in the top 6 next year if all these guys are gone. I'd rather see the ****in Jets win the Stanley Cup (and have to listen to their pompous fanbase about it for a lifetime) than see Zubrus play any higher than the 4th line. Come to think of it, I'd take a Jets Stanley Cup win (and buy their jersey) over having to see Zubrus at all next year. He's the first that needs to go.

As someone else said tonight (and it wasn't just me), he's our worst forward. That's terrible on a team that has a lot of bad forwards. The fact that his contract goes into next season.

 

[Benedict Parisechuk]

They need to find at least three top 6 players over the next 1-2 years. Whether its through drafting, trades, free agency or whatever. Henrique and Cammalleri are really the only top six players that will be on this team for the foreseeable future and both of them are complimentary players. Zajac is a 2nd/3rd liner tweener who provides barely any offense. After that, its bleak. I have no clue what Boucher will turn into.

I mean, we are in a WORLD of hurt. It is a complete mess up front. Who has a worse situation when it comes to the forward group than us? It's like there was no planning whatsoever.

 

[Bleedred]

They need to find at least three top 6 players over the next 1-2 years. Whether its through drafting, trades, free agency or whatever. Henrique and Cammalleri are really the only top six players that will be on this team for the foreseeable future and both of them are complimentary players. Zajac is a 2nd/3rd liner tweener who provides barely any offense. After that, its bleak. I have no clue what Boucher will turn into.

I mean, we are in a WORLD of hurt. It is a complete mess up front. Who has a worse situation when it comes to the forward group than us? It's like there was no planning whatsoever.

Yeah but we got Graham Black and Kujawhatever and don't forget ECHL all star MVP Myles Bell!

I wanna give Conte a break since he's provided us with a nice defense (that we still can't make complete use of because we have to give Petey Jr and POS Fraser games) but the forward situation is awful.

Not sure what to expect out of Matteau either. I think he needs a little more AHL time after this season. We really needed him to play those 17 games and his 3 points and 9:11 ice time per game that year, which took a year off his ELC/waiver eligibility.

I don't know if I blame Lou more for that, or broke ass Hucksterbeek making us ice a dollar general roster because we couldn't afford some real players.

Luckily Reid Boucher can be in the AHL for one more year if he needs it.

 

[tr83]

Yep.

Just to draw parallels with guys under contract:
Top 5 NHL goalie (when on his game)
2 Dmen with #1 potential Larsson/Sevs
2 Dman with #2 potential Greene/Merrill
2 Dmen with 2nd pairing potential Santini/Gelinas
1 Dman with shutdown 3rd pairing potential Hegelson
3-4 other potential NHL Dmen or trading pieces (Scarlett, Jacobs, Burlon?)

(So the real dangerous question is - can the combo of 6 at their combined peak of Sevs, Greene, Larsson, Merrill, Gelinas, Santini >= Stevens, Nieds, Rafalski, x, x, x ... where the three x's were peak Colin White, an older Albelin and an older Daneyko at the time). I'd be inclined to say no...

Henrique good 2nd liner
Cammy good 2nd liner
Zajac good 2nd liner
Elias at this point 2nd/3rd liner
JJ 3rd liner, maybe borderline 2ndliner with growing curve
Ruutuu decent 3rd liner
Boosh/Matteau could/should make 3rd line jump next year
Zubrus 4th liner

Assume Ryder/Jagr/Zids moves nets a 3rd liner

Gionta/Bernier 4th liners

I'd ideally like to see 2-3 contributors come from somewhere to push Zubrus, Gionta and Bernier out of the mix, and move everyone down a notch. Maybe one out of the draft. Maybe one from UFA. Maybe a Graham Black or Paul Thompson are legit...

I get the sentiment of 'hey wouldn't it be nice to get some #1 talent' - but I think it is more necessary to find some guys like Gionta who play on the third line but eventually move up to become a nice 2nd line guy potting 30+ goals. (and before I get flamed - that's Brian, not the nose.)

Is it that bad that I forgot Stephen Gionta was still on this team?

 

[Tretyak 20]

They need to find at least three top 6 players over the next 1-2 years. Whether its through drafting, trades, free agency or whatever. Henrique and Cammalleri are really the only top six players that will be on this team for the foreseeable future and both of them are complimentary players. Zajac is a 2nd/3rd liner tweener who provides barely any offense. After that, its bleak. I have no clue what Boucher will turn into.

I mean, we are in a WORLD of hurt. It is a complete mess up front. Who has a worse situation when it comes to the forward group than us? It's like there was no planning whatsoever.

I'm willing to bet we get one future top 6 forward out of our current prospects. Our 1st this year should net us a 1st liner unless Conte blows it and takes Werenski. Then we could possibly get another 2nd liner out of this draft outside our 1st, and we should have another top 10 pick in 2016, which is supposed to be loaded with good 2nd line type forwards. That's potentially 4 top 6 forwards, and Henrique and Zajac we still be here. We should be ok if Conte avoids taking more defensemen we don't have room for.

 

[ForeverJerseyGirl]

Yeah but we got Graham Black and Kujawhatever and don't forget ECHL all star MVP Myles Bell!

I wanna give Conte a break since he's provided us with a nice defense (that we still can't make complete use of because we have to give Petey Jr and POS Fraser games) but the forward situation is awful.

Not sure what to expect out of Matteau either. I think he needs a little more AHL time after this season. We really needed him to play those 17 games and his 3 points and 9:11 ice time per game that year, which took a year off his ELC/waiver eligibility.

I don't know if I blame Lou more for that, or broke ass Hucksterbeek making us ice a dollar general roster because we couldn't afford some real players.

Luckily Reid Boucher can be in the AHL for one more year if he needs it.

In regard to Conte, I've decided that I'll give him a break if he can replenish our forwards with a comparable efficiency as he did our defense. I'm not asking for All-Star forwards just forwards who can actually contribute offensively.

 

[ForeverJerseyGirl]

I'm willing to bet we get one future top 6 forward out of our current prospects. Our 1st this year should net us a 1st liner unless Conte blows it and takes Werenski. Then we could possibly get another 2nd liner out of this draft outside our 1st, and we should have another top 10 pick in 2016, which is supposed to be loaded with good 2nd line type forwards. That's potentially 4 top 6 forwards, and Henrique and Zajac we still be here. We should be ok if Conte avoids taking more defensemen we don't have room for.

I very much hope things go like you outlined. That would make this team so much more competitive.

 

[MadDevil]

They need to find at least three top 6 players over the next 1-2 years. Whether its through drafting, trades, free agency or whatever. Henrique and Cammalleri are really the only top six players that will be on this team for the foreseeable future and both of them are complimentary players. Zajac is a 2nd/3rd liner tweener who provides barely any offense. After that, its bleak. I have no clue what Boucher will turn into.

I mean, we are in a WORLD of hurt. It is a complete mess up front. Who has a worse situation when it comes to the forward group than us? It's like there was no planning whatsoever.

The plan involved two certain players who are no longer here. The last couple years have been like patching a leaky roof. It only works so long before you have to replace the entire thing.