Devils Team Discussion (current team/player news and notes) ‎2014-2015 Part III

[Benedict Parisechuk]

IF Larsson sits he will get a chance to beat someone out. Almost certainly many chances. Let's see him do it. Severson obviously did.

I think they kept the best players and have a pretty well structured team. I don't see how they are being picked so low with the talent they have on the back end.

If you believe in building from the goalie out, you have to like what you see when you look at the Devils.

How the hell is Larsson going to beat somebody out by sitting in the player suites?

 

[ghoti]

If Sal misses any significant time, I wouldn't be surprised if Helgeson plays in his place over whichever D is sitting.

I'd be fine with that, but I really think Sal having a good season is a big key in the Devils' chances of being any kind of contender. That's what I'm rooting for. Hard.

 

[Zajacs Bowl Cut]

IF Larsson sits he will get a chance to beat someone out. Almost certainly many chances. Let's see him do it. Severson obviously did.

I think they kept the best players and have a pretty well structured team. I don't see how they are being picked so low with the talent they have on the back end.

If you believe in building from the goalie out, you have to like what you see when you look at the Devils.

um, how, exactly?

 

[BrodeursCups]

No hate. He played great. Which is why smart money is on Gelly sitting (not Lars).

But if he isn't up to game shape, he could sit and Gelly play his role.

We are solid up and down on D. That is the point. Everyone stop complaining and start celebrating. This is our best group of 7 D-men since we moved to the new building.

It is a little confusing. Everyone wanted the youth movement on D - and they're going to get a whole lot of it this year. And more.

It's a good problem to have. The days of the immobile pylon have passed. There's an ass ton of talent all coming through at the same time and developing together. Its going to be fun to watch. If you want something really depressing, go look at the Dmen who saw time for us in 07-08, for example..

 

[ghoti]

How the hell is Larsson going to beat somebody out by sitting in the player suites?

It's the NHL. He will get his chances. It's not like the clock on him has run out. He's 21.

And IF he sits, and he may not, it's because he got beat out by a guy even younger than he is, not some mediocre vet. He should take that personally.

 

[Zajacs Bowl Cut]

It is a little confusing. Everyone wanted the youth movement on D - and they're going to get a whole lot of it this year. And more.

It's a good problem to have. The days of the immobile pylon have passed. There's an ass ton of talent all coming through at the same time and developing together. Its going to be fun to watch. If you want something really depressing, go look at the Dmen who saw time for us in 07-08, for example..

I don't think anyone wanted one of the young DMen sitting.

I'd rather have Harrold as the #7 in the pressbox with Severson playing nightly in Albany than have Harrold in Albany and one of the young guys playing.

 

[Zajacs Bowl Cut]

It's the NHL. He will get his chances. It's not like the clock on him has run out. He's 21.

And IF he sits, and he may not, it's because he got beat out by a guy even younger than he is, not some mediocre vet. He should take that personally.

who would you rather have playing nightly- Bryce Salvador or Adam Larsson?

 

[Zajacs Bowl Cut]

Tom Gulitti ‏@TGfireandice 19s20 seconds ago
Devils announce Jordin Tootoo will wear No. 20 -- belonged to Ryan Carter up until yesterday.

 

[ghoti]

who would you rather have playing nightly- Bryce Salvador or Adam Larsson?

The way the Devils are structured right now, Salvador. But he has to fill his role capably, otherwise Helgeson.

I think Larsson is ahead of Gelinas, but Gelly on the PP is such a weapon, it's not easy to take him out.

 

[Zajacs Bowl Cut]

The way the Devils are structured right now, Salvador. But he has to fill his role capably, otherwise Helgeson.

I think Larsson is ahead of Gelinas, but Gelly on the PP is such a weapon, it's not easy to take him out.

thats all I need to know.

 

[RSeen]

thats all I need to know.

We need someone like Salvador who is a stay at home Dman. Who are you going to have on the PK? Gelinas? No. Salvador is on the top PK unit and does a good job there.

 

[ghoti]

thats all I need to know.

Give me your defense pairs. Include PP and PK.

 

[JimEIV]

who would you rather have playing nightly- Bryce Salvador or Adam Larsson?

Who would you rather have killing penalties Salvador or Larsson?

Who would you rather have clearing the crease Salvador or Larsson?

Again roles are completely lost on you. Larsson isn't playing or sitting over Salvador.... Larsson is competing with Merrill and Severson for a spot

 

[MadDevil]

Playing 4 kids on defense is just asking for trouble.

 

[Sascha Goc]

What really worries me is if Larsson starts the season as the 7th guy and he sulks and his confidence is tanked from the get-go for this season. He clearly is one of those players who needs to be coddled rather than kicked in the ass and it looks like the current coaching staff is continually trying to kick him in the ass. Robinson was great as a mentor for Adam.

All this said, I'm very excited to see what Severson can do.

 

[Bcap88]

Severson gets number 28

 

[ghoti]

What really worries me is if Larsson starts the season as the 7th guy and he sulks and his confidence is tanked from the get-go for this season. He clearly is one of those players who needs to be coddled rather than kicked in the ass and it looks like the current coaching staff is continually trying to kick him in the ass. Robinson was great as a mentor for Adam.

All this said, I'm very excited to see what Severson can do.

I don't think they are coddling him or kicking him in the ass.

I think they will play the best six and if he's not in it it's up to him to get in it.

He can't say it's ageism, because Merrill is 22 and Severson is 20.

 

[New Jack City]

official welcome Severson to the NJD..

He gets #28. (HUGEEEEE shoes to fill there bud..)

 

[jkrdevil]

Who would you rather have killing penalties Salvador or Larsson?

Who would you rather have clearing the crease Salvador or Larsson?

Again roles are completely lost on you. Larsson isn't playing or sitting over Salvador.... Larsson is competing with Merrill and Severson for a spot

Honest answer Larsson. I want the guy better able to get to pucks, make a pass and clear the zone. Especially on the penalty kill.

"Crease clearing" is a little over rated in the NHL. It is more about box out play and being able to clear the puck.

But i will agree it isn't necessarily Salvador vs Larsson.

 

[Bcap88]

550k for tootoo

 

[SeidoN]

oh great, Severson straight to the NHL. will end well.

also rather have Carter than Tootoo but okay

 

[ghoti]

Honest answer Larsson. I want the guy better able to get to pucks, make a pass and clear the zone. Especially on the penalty kill.

"Crease clearing" is a little over rated in the NHL. It is more about box out play and being able to clear the puck.

But i will agree it isn't necessarily Salvador vs Larsson.

Fair enough, but what about Helgeson? Bigger, stronger guy than Larsson who can do all of the things you mention.

To me, he is Salvador's backup, not any of Larsson/Merrill/Severson.

 

[Eric Sachs]

Who would you rather have killing penalties Salvador or Larsson?

Who would you rather have clearing the crease Salvador or Larsson?

Again roles are completely lost on you. Larsson isn't playing or sitting over Salvador.... Larsson is competing with Merrill and Severson for a spot

Salvador plays big PK minutes because he can't play PP and he's a dumpster fire at ES. On the PK, he doesn't have to move much.

He doesn't play it because he excels at it. He plays it because he needs to get minutes somehow.

Look up our stats on the PK last year when Salvador was hurt. They are virtually identical (and actually better) than our PK with Salvador in the line-up.

You can talk about roles all you want but Salvador is putrid wherever you put him.

 

[SeidoN]

as much as I love Larsson I think at this point just trade him away and let him actually play somewhere

 

[ghoti]

oh great, Severson straight to the NHL. will end well.

It wasn't because they needed him there. He forced his way in. In fact, he complicated everything by doing so.