Devils 2018-19 team discussion (news and notes) - part XVIII

[Triumph]

This 'touchable'/'untouchable' stuff is silly. Obviously we'd all trade Hischier Smith and probably anything else the Devils have for McDavid. The more challenging it is to find equal value on the other side of the trade, the less touchable the player is - it's almost impossible to do so for Hischier and likewise for Smith, who 16 teams passed on in the last draft.

 

[TBF1972]

I'm sure if Edmonton offered McDavid one for one NO ONE is untouchable

And if it's McDavid + Lucic?

 

[Nubmer6]

And if it's McDavid + Lucic?

I think that's not one for one

 

[devilsblood]

This 'touchable'/'untouchable' stuff is silly. Obviously we'd all trade Hischier Smith and probably anything else the Devils have for McDavid. The more challenging it is to find equal value on the other side of the trade, the less touchable the player is - it's almost impossible to do so for Hischier and likewise for Smith, who 16 teams passed on in the last draft.

Teams took another player, in most cases a very good looking prospect, over Smith. Different then they "passed" on him.

I think he clearly has value. Enough to trade him? Maybe, maybe not.

But if the idea is to trade a commodity you have a lot in order to fill a hole elsewhere, we have a lot of good looking small offensive minded lhd.

 

[devilsblood]

And if it's McDavid + Lucic?

Joking I imagine. But that's still a very easy yes.

 

[glenwo2]

If the Devils land the #3 pick, they're Drafting a Player.

I don't see them trading down.

 

[Jason MacIsaac]

I really think Yakovlev is a very nice option moving forward, as he gets more comfortable with the language I expect him to get better and maybe top out as a #4 similar to Oduya.

 

[Triumph]

Teams took another player, in most cases a very good looking prospect, over Smith. Different then they "passed" on him.

I think he clearly has value. Enough to trade him? Maybe, maybe not.

But if the idea is to trade a commodity you have a lot in order to fill a hole elsewhere, we have a lot of good looking small offensive minded lhd.

He very obviously has value but the question is does anyone value him as much as the Devils? And the answer to this is almost certainly no because most teams are trying to win as soon as possible but the Devils are less inclined than most of the franchises in the league to trade future value for present value.

16 teams passed on Smith. They thought other players were more valuable. It doesn't look great if any of those teams give up more than what a #17 pick should cost in order to acquire Smith.

 

[glenwo2]

I really think Yakovlev is a very nice option moving forward, as he gets more comfortable with the language I expect him to get better and maybe top out as a #4 similar to Oduya.

I'd strongly consider converting him to the Forward position as he really didn't look all that out-of-place there.

 

[None Shall Pass]

I really think Yakovlev is a very nice option moving forward, as he gets more comfortable with the language I expect him to get better and maybe top out as a #4 similar to Oduya.

I agree.

The problem is that we're coming up on a time where we're potentially going to have a lot of young defensemen start breaking into the league (Smith, Walsh, Davies). The rest of our defense is young-ish and full of one-way contracts.

Next year, assuming no trades, we're going have:

Greene - old, captain
Vatanen - Arguably our best defenseman
Severson - Young, long contract
Mueller - Young, RFA after this season
Butcher - Young, RFA after this season
Santini - Less impressive but a few years of contract
Carrick? - RFA after this season

Something has to give on our defense soon. While I like Yak and think he could have an Oduya-esque career curve, a lot will have to change before he can be given regular playing time in the NHL after this season. I think for his first NHL season, though, he has acquitted himself quite well.

 

[Devils731]

I don’t think Yakovlev would want yo stay with the Devils next year if another NHL team was interested. He was bounced around too much to feel like he’s high enough on the depth chart.

 

[MichaelJ]

I agree.

The problem is that we're coming up on a time where we're potentially going to have a lot of young defensemen start breaking into the league (Smith, Walsh, Davies). The rest of our defense is young-ish and full of one-way contracts.

Next year, assuming no trades, we're going have:

Greene - old, captain
Vatanen - Arguably our best defenseman
Severson - Young, long contract
Mueller - Young, RFA after this season
Butcher - Young, RFA after this season
Santini - Less impressive but a few years of contract
Carrick? - RFA after this season

Something has to give on our defense soon. While I like Yak and think he could have an Oduya-esque career curve, a lot will have to change before he can be given regular playing time in the NHL after this season. I think for his first NHL season, though, he has acquitted himself quite well.

If the Devils grab Byram Yak is a goner. Besides that there needs to be a trade. The teams needs an upgrade on defense and either a player or players go straight up or get bounced.

 

[Quest for Stanley]

Forward Call Ups Point Production in the NHL

Brett Seney: 13 points in 50 NHL games

Rooney(6) + Anderson(3) + Gabriel(3) + Pietila(1) + Bastian(1) + Quenneville(0) + Lappin(0) + McLeod (0): 14 points in 102 NHL games

 

[Quest for Stanley]

Forward Call Ups Points Per Game Production in the AHL

1. Quenneville: 0.94 PPG
2. Seney : 0.92 PPG
3. Pietila : 0.81 PPG
4. Lappin : 0.60PPG
5. McLeod : 0.60 PPG
6. Anderson : 0.50 PPG
7. Rooney : 0.45 PPG
8. Bastian : 0.41 PPG
9. Gabriel : 0.19 PPG

 

[Cheddabombs]

Haven't watched a game in weeks, mostly due to personal reasons but also the lineup isn't exactly begging me to watch, but it's amazing that every time I check in another player gets hurt.

Just shut it all down, wrap the decent players in bubble wrap and try again next season

 

[glenwo2]

Meanwhile, in the JERK category, remember how there were many out there giving Mueller well-wishes even our Opponents?

Well one person wasn't so charitable :

His excuse for this?





Uh-huh.

 

[Devils731]

Meanwhile, in the JERK category, remember how there were many out there giving Mueller well-wishes even our Opponents?

Well one person wasn't so charitable :

His excuse for this?



Uh-huh.

The only way that would seem ok is if they’re buddies and he’s busting chops now that Mirco is ok...but he went with “I didn’t do it, my butt did” which is obviously BS.

 

[TrufleShufle]

Forward Call Ups Point Production in the NHL

Brett Seney: 13 points in 50 NHL games

Rooney(6) + Anderson(3) + Gabriel(3) + Pietila(1) + Bastian(1) + Quenneville(0) + Lappin(0) + McLeod (0): 14 points in 102 NHL games

I never really understood the hate Seney started to get, with the speed and energy at which he played the game, even points aside, I didn't want him going anywhere just because I felt like he could only get better.

 

[RyGuy]

Forward Call Ups Point Production in the NHL

Brett Seney: 13 points in 50 NHL games

Rooney(6) + Anderson(3) + Gabriel(3) + Pietila(1) + Bastian(1) + Quenneville(0) + Lappin(0) + McLeod (0): 14 points in 102 NHL games

Great post, Brett.

 

[Quest for Stanley]

Great post, Brett.

??? The #’s and Seney’s play speaks for itself. Big Merrimack fan base rooting for Seney. The cream always rises to the top. Seney will be back soon enough

 

[Jersey Fresh]

Meanwhile, in the JERK category, remember how there were many out there giving Mueller well-wishes even our Opponents?

Well one person wasn't so charitable :

His excuse for this?





Uh-huh.

Lol that's unreal.

 

[NJ DevLolz]

Lol that's unreal.

I mean, it's obvious that Virtanen is full of shit, but the giveaway is the fact that there is a period there

 

[Japam]

Meanwhile, in the JERK category, remember how there were many out there giving Mueller well-wishes even our Opponents?

Well one person wasn't so charitable :

His excuse for this?





Uh-huh.

Well now we know which player has a drug and/or alcohol problem.

 

[NJDevils#4]

I keep looking at 2019 potential UFA's and over and over again I keep coming back to Tyler Myers as a guy I would throw some serious cash at. Big, physical defenseman obviously with some mobility issues but at 28 I think he's a solid piece that I would really like to see here. Just a body type that has really been missing IMO. I'd like to see a 6 year deal maybe at like 6 mil per or so. Stone would have been nice, but he threw his UFA status away unexpectedly. He would have been my #1 choice in UFA.

 

[devilsblood]

I really think Yakovlev is a very nice option moving forward, as he gets more comfortable with the language I expect him to get better and maybe top out as a #4 similar to Oduya.

I think he's been OK but where does he fit? We have a ton of guys vying for the 3rd pairing lhd position and more on the way in Davies and Smith.

His ability to move to fwd makes him uniquely versatile, but he's not overly impactful there either.

So nice player, and if we could keep him for depth that is a good thing for the team, but he's struggled to find playing time this season, and that will only get more difficult next season(outside of a trade that moves guys out).