Devils 2017-18 team discussion (player news and notes) VIII - Postseason Edition

[AfroThunder396]

A couple of media guys have released their trophy votes and I actually think Hall might win the Hart. I know he's been getting a lot of buzz but I wasn't sure if he'd be getting a lot of first place votes over MacKinnon, Giroux, etc but it looks like he is.

 

[njdevils19]

I think MacKinnon wins over a close vote with Hall. I think there is a gap between them and the rest of the field.

 

[AgentBrodeur]

how long was MacKinnon's point streak to keep his team in the playoff position and not question them selves?

 

[FooteBahl]

A couple of media guys have released their trophy votes and I actually think Hall might win the Hart. I know he's been getting a lot of buzz but I wasn't sure if he'd be getting a lot of first place votes over MacKinnon, Giroux, etc but it looks like he is.

When do they announce the award winners?

 

[Devil X]

I think MacKinnon wins over a close vote with Hall. I think there is a gap between them and the rest of the field.

My biggest counter to MacKinnon is the other point totals. He has Rantanen with 84, Landeskog with 62 and Barrie with 57. All of them are above our next highest point leader, Nico. While i give MacKinnon a ton of props i still think Hall was more important to the Devils making the playoffs.

Granted all of these guys teams likely dont make the playoffs without them, i just think the disparity between Hall and our second or third leading scorers is to high not to show Halls value to this team.

 

[NJDevs26]

When do they announce the award winners?

After the playoffs end

 

[njdevils19]

My biggest counter to MacKinnon is the other point totals. He has Rantanen with 84, Landeskog with 62 and Barrie with 57. All of them are above our next highest point leader, Nico. While i give MacKinnon a ton of props i still think Hall was more important to the Devils making the playoffs.

Granted all of these guys teams likely dont make the playoffs without them, i just think the disparity between Hall and our second or third leading scorers is to high not to show Halls value to this team.

I personally think Hall should win, but I also haven't watched MacKinnon nearly as much to know the subtle things that I know Hall has done. I just think MacKinnon wins based off of what I am reading.

 

[BenedictGomez]

When do they announce the award winners?

June.

 

[Billdo]

Just gonna throw this out there... Vatanen had a career high in points this year while playing harder minutes than he ever has. Anyone who still has reservations about how great this trade was for us should be examined. He’s so underrated at the moment.

 

[Nubmer6]

Just gonna throw this out there... Vatanen had a career high in points this year while playing harder minutes than he ever has. Anyone who still has reservations about how great this trade was for us should be examined. He’s so underrated at the moment.

The only people with reservations are fans with man-love for Henrique... and maybe Aethon who would prefer better defensive ability.

 

[Brodeur]

When do they announce the award winners?

The top 3 vote getters (aka the finalists) were announced last year on May 1st. If my memory serves me correctly, the NHL will gradually announce the finalists for each award over a week. Ie, Calder one day, Norris the next, etc etc.

 

[FooteBahl]

The top 3 vote getters (aka the finalists) were announced last year on May 1st. If my memory serves me correctly, the NHL will gradually announce the finalists for each award over a week. Ie, Calder one day, Norris the next, etc etc.

Thank you. You’re a scholar and a gentleman.

 

[The Wumpus]

Just gonna throw this out there... Vatanen had a career high in points this year while playing harder minutes than he ever has. Anyone who still has reservations about how great this trade was for us should be examined. He’s so underrated at the moment.

He had 32 pts between ANA and NJ this year, but had previous seasons of 37 and 38 pts.

Still a great trade.

 

[Bleedred]

Just gonna throw this out there... Vatanen had a career high in points this year while playing harder minutes than he ever has. Anyone who still has reservations about how great this trade was for us should be examined. He’s so underrated at the moment.

And he carries around Andy Greene (not sure how he doesn't pass out from fatigue with how tired he is!) while doing it.

I think this is a fair trade that worked out for both teams and we're both in the playoffs.

 

[AfroThunder396]

He had 32 pts between ANA and NJ this year, but had previous seasons of 37 and 38 pts.

Still a great trade.

Yeah but he missed quite a bit of time at the beginning of the season.

 

[Billdo]

He had 32 pts between ANA and NJ this year, but had previous seasons of 37 and 38 pts.

Still a great trade.

Ah damn it, I misread the stats

 

[Zippy316]

He had 32 pts between ANA and NJ this year, but had previous seasons of 37 and 38 pts.

Still a great trade.

Let's not forget he also had shoulder surgery to end last year and likely spent the whole summer rehabbing.

A fully healthy summer could go a long way in him taking the next step next year.

 

[Emperoreddy]

Ahhhh so nervous.

 

[R8Devs]

For game 2 (if Johansson is ready):
Hall-Hischier-Maroon
Johansson-Zacha-Palmieri
Coleman-Zajac-Noesen
Wood-Boyle-Grabner

I would take Boyle out too but I don't think Hynes would do that, if he did it would be for Bratt:
Hall-Hischier-Bratt
Johansson-Zacha-Palmieri
Maroon-Zajac-Noesen
Wood-Coleman-Grabner


Regardless I think the defense should have Severson coming back in and I think Butcher should play more.

Greene-Vatanen
Butcher-Severson
Mueller-Lovejoy

 

[RSeen]

Long-term we need to figure out a way to acquire a top pair Dman and a 2nd line center. The lack of a real offensive threat with a 2nd line hurts significantly and obviously the Dman is a need everyone knows about at this point.

 

[R8Devs]

It will be done once Ray gets Karlsson in a trade and signs Tavares

 

[Whaddagoal]

Ahhhh so nervous.

For Game 2 already??? I feel like the team will adjust and it will be a more level representation next game.

Getting in some more skill willl help, IMO. We have to find a way to get Bratt in there because the void of skill at 4th line is really showing now relative to Tampa's depth.

EDIT: Ah crap, i missed the time on the post... game 1 jitters. haha.

 

[Jets012]

For game 2 (if Johansson is ready):
Hall-Hischier-Maroon
Johansson-Zacha-Palmieri
Coleman-Zajac-Noesen
Wood-Boyle-Grabner

I would take Boyle out too but I don't think Hynes would do that, if he did it would be for Bratt:
Hall-Hischier-Bratt
Johansson-Zacha-Palmieri
Maroon-Zajac-Noesen
Wood-Coleman-Grabner


Regardless I think the defense should have Severson coming back in and I think Butcher should play more.

Greene-Vatanen
Butcher-Severson
Mueller-Lovejoy

That should be the D-Core and agreed, Boyle should come out

 

[Stephen Gionta]

Long-term we need to figure out a way to acquire a top pair Dman and a 2nd line center. The lack of a real offensive threat with a 2nd line hurts significantly and obviously the Dman is a need everyone knows about at this point.

It will be done once Ray gets Karlsson in a trade and signs Tavares

Or just signs Carlson and Tavares

 

[Stephen Gionta]

for game 2 I would like to see:
Johansson in for Gibbons.
Bratt in for Grabner.
Severson in for Moore/Lovejoy/Mueller