Devils 2015-16 team discussion (player news & notes) Offseason version ‎III

[Emperoreddy]

Supposedly he is considering his next contract(after the ELC) If that true a teams like Pittsburgh and Chicago, maybe even Rangers are not ideal being so close to the cap.

I would imagine its the primary draw of New Jersey. A couple of nice pieces in place and tons of cap space.

Almost certainly why he won't sign in Chicago. Odds they won't be able to resign him when his ELC runs out. I'm still thinking he just goes to Boston in the end

 

[Billdo]

Supposedly he is considering his next contract(after the ELC) If that is true, teams like Pittsburgh and Chicago, maybe even Rangers are not ideal being so close to the cap.

I would imagine its the primary draw of New Jersey. A couple of nice pieces in place and tons of cap space.

If that's a reason behind his motivation for doing this, I think that's a turnoff if I'm a GM.

 

[Moe Syzlak]

I saw the Pittsburgh is making a pitch and if I'm Vesey, that's who I'm going with.

That just means he'll eventually end up on the Devils anyways.

 

[Emperoreddy]

If that's a reason behind his motivation for doing this, I think that's a turnoff if I'm a GM.

He wants to stay in one place long term. I do get that idea. No one wants to sign someplace and get traded in two years because they can't afford them.

 

[JimEIV]

Almost certainly why he won't sign in Chicago. Odds they won't be able to resign him when his ELC runs out. I'm still thinking he just goes to Boston in the end

Boston makes the most sense for a lot of reasons...#1 being their best players are centers. If I were a winger and a team with Patrice Bergeron, David Krejci, David Backes and hardly any wingers came calling I would be all over that.

Boston has good centers, not a lot of wingers a good amount of cap space and its home. It looks like a no brainer to me? The kid probably wouldn't even move out of Cambridge.

 

[Zippy316]

Supposedly he is considering his next contract(after the ELC) If that is true, teams like Pittsburgh and Chicago, maybe even Rangers are not ideal being so close to the cap.

I would imagine its the primary draw of New Jersey. A couple of nice pieces in place and tons of cap space.

Does that speculation have any reasonable basis?

It seems like it is just a point of view that has been brought up so often that it is taken as a fact. I still have yet to see any truth to that statement that he is in it for the money.

 

[theoptimist]

I honestly don't ever see Boucher hitting 60 points. Well, not on the Devils.

Vesey style of play fits this team much better. But then again, he hasn't played a single game in the NHL.

Perhaps, I'm too optimistic on the kid. I think he'll be great alongside our forwards should he choose to sign here.

 

[Zippy316]

Boston makes the most sense for a lot of reasons...#1 being their best players are centers. If I were a winger and a team with Patrice Bergeron, David Krejci, David Backes and hardly any wingers came calling I would be all over that.

Boston has good centers, not a lot of wingers and a good amount of cap space. It looks like a no brainer to me?

I imagine he is not sold on their future.

Their defense and goaltending are huge question marks, both now and in the future. Sweeney's track record as a GM so far has resulted in a number of questionable moves as well.

 

[Triumph]

I don't know about Chicago. They told Brandon Saad they would never trade him and that they would work something out. They did. They traded him to Columbus.

Guys like Teravainen, Andrew Shaw, Patrick Sharp, Antti Niemi etc have all been traded because Chicago couldn't keep them.

I don't know, I'd be nervous about that going forward, and once you sign your ELC you don't have any control of your future. The team does.

Chicago does present him with the best opportunity to win now, but they're in the Western Conference and they will have cap issues. I just don't see them as a major player in this.

They would be by far his best option otherwise, but they don't have any respite from the cap issues. They don't have much time left as a contender unless they can fix this, and it's seemingly only getting worse.

 

[Emperoreddy]

I imagine he is not sold on their future.

Their defense and goaltending are huge question marks, both now and in the future. Sweeney's track record as a GM so far has resulted in a number of questionable moves as well.

Ya the is the question mark with Boston, their direction.

Chicago has to resign Panaran next summer and that will put them back against the cap again.

I really don't know how much longer they can keep juggling the cap and stay a contender

 

[Ben Matlock]

If that's a reason behind his motivation for doing this, I think that's a turnoff if I'm a GM.

I don't see it that way. If he's thinking about his next contract with the team he chooses he A) want's to commit long term to team X and B) has confidence the team will think he deserves a big raise.

If he gets greedy and thinks he deserves more money than the team offers in a couple of years, team X can let him walk without losing any assets (apart from Buffalo).

 

[JimEIV]

I imagine he is not sold on their future.

Their defense and goaltending are huge question marks, both now and in the future. Sweeney's track record as a GM so far has resulted in a number of questionable moves as well.

I do think that is issue. That defense is on the way to being horrible and Boston's centers are all over 30 years old. It's not perfect. But there is going to be a balancing act no matter what he chooses.

 

[JimEIV]

If Chicago could move Crawford they would be fine.

 

[Triumph]

If Chicago could move Crawford they would be fine.

Crawford is actually good. He's worth his contract. Their problem is Hossa and Seabrook and the fact that they don't have any good ELCs anymore. Also Toews wasn't worth his contract last season, which isn't a great sign.

 

[Bcap88]

If Chicago could move Crawford they would be fine.

they would be dumb to do that

 

[Sinner]

take Crawford off Chicago and you have Patrick Lalime

 

[Emperoreddy]

Buccigross and McDonald were on TSN earlier saying the big three are the Leafs, Rags, and us. Isles might of entered. Chicago and Buffalo might be out. Hayes is apparently doing a full court recruitment press for the Rags.

 

[NJDevs26]

Buccigross and McDonald were on TSN earlier saying the big three are the Leafs, Rags, and us.

It's getting to the point where I want him just to play keep away as much as anything else. Since basically everyone outside of the Hawks that's been rumored is a division or at least conference rival.

 

[Cheddabombs]

Buccigross and McDonald were on TSN earlier saying the big three are the Leafs, Rags, and us.

Probably just the homer in me, but I have a feeling he'll choose us. I think we have a lot to offer and he can help us make a stronger push for the playoffs.

 

[Emperoreddy]

It's getting to the point where I want him just to play keep away as much as anything else. Since basically everyone outside of the Hawks that's been rumored is a division or at least conference rival.

Well those odds were always low since he wants to play in the Northeast. Boston or Toronto would be the best place outside of us if you want keep away.

Still I wouldn't be shocked if it came down to us and the Rags. I don't think it is worth losing sleep over if we miss him. Nice free asset, but its not McDavid or something.

 

[Tip Touchers]

Do you guys see Gazdic making the team? Even if its as a spare forward.

 

[Brooklyndevil]

Who cares about Hayes, we have Mile Wood & Alex Kerfoot.

 

[Bcap88]

Who cares about Hayes, we have Mile Wood & Alex Kerfoot.

And our assistant gm who has known vesey since he was a youngster

 

[Emperoreddy]

Do you guys see Gazdic making the team? Even if its as a spare forward.

Nope. LW is pretty crowded on the big club, and Gazdic has no real place. .

 

[Peter Sidorkiewicz]

Do you guys see Gazdic making the team? Even if its as a spare forward.

I think he will be the 13th forward. We need some grit to replace Tootoo and Farnham.