Value of: Devils 1st Round Picks (7, 18, 20)

[Zajacs Bowl Cut]

the Devils will have three (3) first round picks in the 2020 draft. These picks currently are:

7th overall (their own pick, locked in)
18th overall (ARZ pick, can still change with playoff results)
20th overall (VAN pick, can still change with playoff results)

Curious to see what they could get with one or maybe a package of 2 of these picks. The Devils biggest needs right now are Defense (namely LHD), goal scoring wing, and backup goalie.

One deal that has been bandied about on here is VAN 1st for Vince Dunn from the Blues. That is something I would definitely be interested in and the type of deal I have in mind.

the Devils also have a boatload of cap space so they could take on salary to make deals more attractive as well. What does everyone have to offer?

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[StreetHawk]

the Devils will have three (3) first round picks in the 2020 draft. These picks currently are:

7th overall (their own pick, locked in)
18th overall (ARZ pick, can still change with playoff results)
20th overall (VAN pick, can still change with playoff results)

Curious to see what they could get with one or maybe a package of 2 of these picks. The Devils biggest needs right now are Defense (namely LHD), goal scoring wing, and backup goalie.

One deal that has been bandied about on here is VAN 1st for Vince Dunn from the Blues. That is something I would definitely be interested in and the type of deal I have in mind.

the Devils also have a boatload of cap space so they could take on salary to make deals more attractive as well. What does everyone have to offer?

Seems like this draft there is forward talent equal to Zegras who I would have called the 5th best F last year behind Hughes, Kakko, Turcotte, Dach. Between him and Cozens he has more talent but the C position could trump talent for some teams.
Think the forward talent goes 10-12 forwards strong. With only 2 D who would likely go in the 15 lottery picks in Drysdale and Sanderson.

for NJ do so long as they are still getting some rfa years they could move these 2 extra picks especially if they are targeting a good young player plus a cap dump as well. Like take on Allen or Bozak from STL as an example.

depends on NJ’s timeline. Young players really start around Zacha who maxes out at a 2C at this point. Nico, Hughes, McLeod as a 2/3C, Smith on D. And Blackwood in net.
so still a ways to go. New GM and coach so does that buy them the time to go slower?

 

[boredmale]

Curious to see what they could get with one or maybe a package of 2 of these picks. The Devils biggest needs right now are Defense (namely LHD), goal scoring wing, and backup goalie.

Islanders may need cap room and Leddy might be the best option to trade due to trade value and the fact defense is their deepest position. 20th might be to much but if the Devils trade that pick down a bit I could see a deal of late first/early second for Leddy

 

[BStinson]

I wonder if something like Detroit 4OA for 7OA + 18/20OA so you could either get Drysdale or a more NHL ready prospect winger.

 

[Forge]

I wonder if something like Detroit 4OA for 7OA + 18/20OA so you could either get Drysdale or a more NHL ready prospect winger.

Honestly, I hope we don't do that. After the top 3, there is a pretty decent size tier that covers guys 4-10 give or take. So trading a first round pick just to grab someone from within the same tier for a needs based selection would just drive me up the wall. I'd be more interested in trading something like 18 & 20 for 11 and a late second / third or whatever the trade chart says the difference is.

 

[BStinson]

Honestly, I hope we don't do that. After the top 3, there is a pretty decent size tier that covers guys 4-10 give or take. So trading a first round pick just to grab someone from within the same tier for a needs based selection would just drive me up the wall. I'd be more interested in trading something like 18 & 20 for 11 and a late second / third or whatever the trade chart says the difference is.

I hear you, I guess it depends on what the Devil’s board looks like as it might be pretty different than McKenzie’s aggregated list or they might really love someone on that next tier. If Yzerman wanted a full blown scorch earth rebuild I could see Mantha/Bertuzzi being offered for futures/prospects.

 

[Forge]

Leddy is hard pass for me. I'm not really interested in that unless I'm sending a player back as opposed to a pick. I'd talk about Pulock though.

Dunn is a definite option I'd be into. Any of the carolina guys if they wanted. I'm not opposed to giving up Vancouver's pick for Cernak if it came to it for tampa. I think he'd be a good fit with Smith on a bottom pairing for the time being.

I wouldn't restrict it to just defenders for those picks though. I'd definitely talk to teams about some forwards.

 

[Forge]

I hear you, I guess it depends on what the Devil’s board looks like as it might be pretty different than McKenzie’s aggregated list or they might really love someone on that next tier. If Yzerman wanted a full blown scorch earth rebuild I could see Mantha/Bertuzzi being offered for futures/prospects.

Yeah, it's a trade that totally makes sense, and in some drafts I'd happily do it and others I wouldn't. This draft is one of the latter. Just a personal thing, I could see them making such a move, but from my own perspective hope that they don't.

 

[Jerzey Devil]

Pretty disappointing that we didn’t get 10 and 17 from Az and Van. That being said, for me, there’s no way the 7th is on the table. Our prospect pool just isn’t very good and I’d rather fill it while we have this many 1st round picks. I’d be open to trading one of the later two picks but that’s it.

 

[Gaylord Q Tinkledink]

Keep the picks and the cap space and get a good player, or two for possibly pennies on the dollar next offseason before the expansion draft.

That way you get young guys for the future and quality players and might be able to compete as soon as the 21-22 season.

 

[16thOverallSaveUs]

What is the price to move up from 9th to 7th?

 

[Forge]

What is the price to move up from 9th to 7th?

Usually a second round pick based on prior history. Sometimes a tad more, but it almost always includes a second.

 

[16thOverallSaveUs]

If Rossi is there I’d do it

 

[HabsMD97]

I would do Drouin for the VAN pick, not sure if NJ would though

 

[Nico Hischier]

If Rossi is there I’d do it

If Rossi is there, we are not trading back

We are all hoping you guys win the lottery anyways

 

[Nico Hischier]

I would do Drouin for the VAN pick, not sure if NJ would though

I think the value is fair and we do need scoring wingers but I’m not a big fan and hope we decline

 

[Forge]

If Rossi is there I’d do it

I would probably trade back, though I'm in the minority with regards to doing that for Rossi. LIS earlier, I just think that there is a razor thin margin between that chunk of prospects; it's theoretically possible I could move down to 9 and still get Raymond or Holtz, which is kind of insane, so I'd just take the "free" second round pick and get another crack at this thing.

But most Devils fans love Rossi and seem to have him slightly higher than some others in this group, so you're probably not going to find many who would want to make that deal.

 

[spockBokk]

Jake Bean for one of the later picks?

 

[Nico Hischier]

Jake Bean for one of the later picks?

I think we could do better especially with some cap strapped teams. We do like Dunn from St. Louis and he is a more established nhler

you guys probably have some other defenseman we would ask for

 

[Forge]

Jake Bean for one of the later picks?

I'm a huge Bean fan, he'd be on my list, though given the lack of NHL experience, he would be lower than some of the other guys.

 

[Richard88]

Would you do #20 + NYI 2021 2nd for Burakovsky?

He's on pace for 28 goals and 64 points this season so there's no urgency in moving him, but Avs might be looking at Taylor Hall in UFA which is why Burakovsky might be available.

 

[Nico Hischier]

Would you do #20 + NYI 2021 2nd for Burakovsky?

He's on pace for 28 goals and 64 points this season so there's no urgency in moving him, but Avs might be looking at Taylor Hall in UFA which is why Burakovsky might be available.

Too rich!

If we are giving up a first and second and not giving any salary back, I would hope we could get a defenseman that a cap strapped team cannot afford or protect in the expansion draft

 

[Forge]

Would you do #20 + NYI 2021 2nd for Burakovsky?

He's on pace for 28 goals and 64 points this season so there's no urgency in moving him, but Avs might be looking at Taylor Hall in UFA which is why Burakovsky might be available.

If we were sitting on 3 first round picks and a ton of cap room in a flat cap era, and we paid 100 cents on the dollar for a player coming off a career season for one of the best teams in the league that isn't in cap trouble, I feel like that would be some really, really poor asset management.

That's not to say that he may not keep that up, or be worth it in the end...but I just think that is not fully taking advantage of the assets at your disposal. There's also the contract to consider and I can't answer that part of this. He's an RFA with what, 2 years of control? If I couldn't get him on a longer term deal that's a non starter, but I'm not sure what contract I feel comfortable with for him given what I said in the first paragraph

 

[Nocashstyle]

Would you do #20 + NYI 2021 2nd for Burakovsky?

He's on pace for 28 goals and 64 points this season so there's no urgency in moving him, but Avs might be looking at Taylor Hall in UFA which is why Burakovsky might be available.

Not a chance

 

[spockBokk]

I think we could do better especially with some cap strapped teams. We do like Dunn from St. Louis and he is a more established nhler

you guys probably have some other defenseman we would ask for

Gardiner, Skjei or Fleury?

I’d think Skjei would be off the table, given what they just gave up for him, but if they could recoup a 1st in the same draft...who knows? I think Skjei is in the long term plans though. His status in the looming expansion draft might be tenuous if he has a good season next year as the Canes likely won’t spend a protection spot on him with the need to protect Slavin, Pesce and likely Hamilton.

Fleury certainly isn’t worth a 1st and I don’t see him being dealt for lesser pick(s). He should be a cheap re-sign and is showing to be a valuable D these play-ins/offs/whatever you want to call them. He might end up as expansion draft fodder.

Gardiner has some value, and I doubt the Canes would have to attach an asset to him facilitate a trade. However, if he is dealt, it’s likely in a dollar for dollar type deal, underperforming contract for underperforming contract. It’d be great if they could sweeten the pot, within reason, enough to get Francis to take Gardiner on.

Bean doesn’t really have a spot in CAR and I’d prefer them to move him this off-season for a Seattle-exempt prospect or comparable pick if they’re not going to give him a chance with the big club.

I’m purposely not bringing up Slavin/Pesce/Hamilton as I highly doubt any of them will be made in the foreseeable future, with the caveat that Hamilton “might” be dangled if it looks like he may price himself out of CAR.