Claimed off Waivers: [DET] Red Wings claim Cody Goloubef

[WingsMJN2965]

Not at all, it's all about Zibanejad growing up as a person and as a player.

Too bad he did it after you traded him (And a 2nd) for the whopping return of Derick Brassard.

 

[WingsMJN2965]

That doesn’t even play on Zibanejad’s line?

Man, I was so focused on even strength, I didn't even think to look at PP time, where Zibanejad is married to Panarin's line.

... Certainly can't be worth mentioning that Larkin is actually outproducing Zibanejad at 5 on 5.

 

[SpezDispenser]

Too bad he did it after you traded him (And a 2nd) for the whopping return of Derick Brassard.

Geez...no kidding. You think we don't know that?

 

[JennyHockey]

This waiver smells like Mike Green is a goner.

 

[Bench]

Look at all the salt in this thread. All because Detroit claimed a guy whose name can't even be spelled without looking it up.

 

[Bench]

This waiver smells like Mike Green is a goner.

Indeed. Or Daley. Daley has already said he won't be coming back to the Wings next year.

Warm bodies needed to finish out this thrilling NHL season for the Red Wings.

 

[BondraTime]

Man, I was so focused on even strength, I didn't even think to look at PP time, where Zibanejad is married to Panarin's line.

... Certainly can't be worth mentioning that Larkin is actually outproducing Zibanejad at 5 on 5.

He's not....

Unless you don't know how to count

Zibanejad - 46 games played 31 ES points (5 SH points) 0.67 es ppg

Larkin - 62 games played 32 ES points 0.51 es ppg

 

[mulefarm]

Is it Coby or Cody?

 

[WingsMJN2965]

Geez...no kidding. You think we don't know that?

Not to get off the drafting and developing topic, but Ottawa seems to make a habit of awful trades in the last 5 or 6 years.

Duchene was brutal. Zibanejad was brutal. 10th OA for Bobby Ryan was brutal. Jury is still out with Lindberg and Brannstrom for Stone.

The saving grace is that that Karlsson trade was absolutely awful until they lucked into SJS absolutely sucking.

 

[WingsMJN2965]

He's not....

Unless you don't know how to count

32 > 31. Though Larkin does have more games.

You can argue it all day. If Zibanejad is worth being considered a franchise player, you don't get to toss Larkin.

If you want me to be honest, I'd say neither is.

 

[Bench]

Is it Coby or Cody?

Colby, actually. Colby Golumbeef.

 

[Langdon Alger]

Is it Coby or Cody?

Codee

 

[SpezDispenser]

Not to get off the drafting and developing topic, but Ottawa seems to make a habit of awful trades in the last 5 or 6 years.

Duchene was brutal. Zibanejad was brutal. 10th OA for Bobby Ryan was brutal. Jury is still out with Lindberg and Brannstrom for Stone.

The saving grace is that that Karlsson trade was absolutely awful until they lucked into SJS absolutely sucking.

We've had some good and we've had some bad. Hard to fault them for the Duchene trade. No one expected us to completely tank.

The Karlsson trade was terrible to those who didn't know who Josh Norris was, now...even without SJs 1st, getting a top prospect back for a pending UFA is hard to balk at. Not to mention Tierney and Demelo and the 2nd if he re-signed, which he did and Balcers. I assume Dorion knew what he was getting in Norris, or I'd like to think that, but who knows.

 

[NotLeddy]

He's not....

Unless you don't know how to count

Zibanejad - 46 games played 31 ES points (5 SH points) 0.67 es ppg

Larkin - 62 games played 32 ES points 0.51 es ppg

They have the same number of 5v5 points, twenty-eight.

"Even strength" points can include empty netters, 6v5 and overtime points.

 

[WingsMJN2965]

We've had some good and we've had some bad. Hard to fault them for the Duchene trade. No one expected us to completely tank.

The Karlsson trade was terrible to those who didn't know who Josh Norris was, now...even without SJs 1st, getting a top prospect back for a pending UFA is hard to balk at. Not to mention Tierney and Demelo and the 2nd if he re-signed, which he did and Balcers. I assume Dorion knew what he was getting in Norris, or I'd like to think that, but who knows.

From an outsider's perspective, SJS sucking is both nice for Ottawa fans and a joke for Ottawa management/ownership.

On one hand, you guys have gotten so screwed over by your own front office that it's about time you struck some good luck. On the other hand, management in no way deserves the kind of reward they could be looking at for refusing to pay probably the greatest player in their franchise's history.

 

[SpezDispenser]

From an outsider's perspective, SJS sucking is both nice for Ottawa fans and a joke for Ottawa management/ownership.

On one hand, you guys have gotten so screwed over by your own front office that it's about time you struck some good luck. On the other hand, management in no way deserves the kind of reward they could be looking at for refusing to pay probably the greatest player in their franchise's history.

Again, John Norris though.

 

[Wingsfan 4 life]

When Lashoff was called up and Hronek was put on IR, that actually gave them 7 "healthy" D. Lashoff coming up on emergency meant the Wings told the league one of their 6 was questionable for tonight (probably Ericsson).

Hronek probably comes off IR on deadline day regardless.

By healthy, I just meant healthy enough to be on the 23 man roster. Which Hronek was not.

This is hockey, not baseball. Players do play while not 10O%.

 

[BondraTime]

They have the same number of 5v5 points, twenty-eight.

"Even strength" points can include empty netters, 6v5 and overtime points.

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Zibanjad has played 16 less games, or 350 less minute on the ice, which is why I have ES points per game, in which Zibanejad is significantly ahead

 

[ShelbyZ]

By healthy, I just meant healthy enough to be on the 23 man roster. Which Hronek was not.

This is hockey, not baseball. Players do play while not 10O%.

K. Thanks?

Somebody of the 6 "healthy" D with Hronek on IR had to be reported to the league as possibly missing the next game to use an emergency recall on Lashoff.

 

[WingsMJN2965]

Again, John Norris though.

Haven't seen him play enough.

 

[SpezDispenser]

Haven't seen him play enough.

No one has yet, he makes his debut tomorrow, but he's got something like 55 points in 50 games and 2nd in AHL scoring as a rookie - so a big time prospect.

 

[FireBird71]

No, I wont. What are you gonna do about it?

Laugh at you...out loud

 

[SpezDispenser]

Laugh at you...out loud

Goodness, you're a toughie!

 

[IceNeophyte]

Next headline: :"Ottawa Senators trade their 2020 1st to Detroit Red Wings for Cody Goloubef. Dorion: 'We were in need of a defensemen and saw Cody as a fit for our team'"

 

[Wingsfan 4 life]

We've had some good and we've had some bad. Hard to fault them for the Duchene trade. No one expected us to completely tank.

The Karlsson trade was terrible to those who didn't know who Josh Norris was, now...even without SJs 1st, getting a top prospect back for a pending UFA is hard to balk at. Not to mention Tierney and Demelo and the 2nd if he re-signed, which he did and Balcers. I assume Dorion knew what he was getting in Norris, or I'd like to think that, but who knows.

Maybe not completely tank, but I'm sure there were alot of people like me, who thought the only reason Sens made the playoffs was due to them riding an insanely hot Hamburgler down the stretch.

That Sens team made a mockery of a bunch of underlying numbers, which screamed they shouldn't even be in the playoffs, let alone going to the finals.

 

[SpezDispenser]

Maybe not completely tank, but I'm sure there were alot of people like me, who thought the only reason Sens made the playoffs was due to them riding an insanely hot Hamburgler down the stretch.

That Sens team made a mockery of a bunch of underlying numbers, which screamed they shouldn't even be in the playoffs, let alone going to the finals.

This is true, but I think Dorion legitimately thought that if they added a top tiered C to go with Stone and Karlsson, we could build around it. But the crap hit the fan with Hoffman and Karlsson and then we disintegrated. I don't even know how we ended up sucking as bad as we did.

I think on the outset, that trade was fine. Turris + a 1st for a clear upgrade in Duchene was fine with me personally, but when the pick became a lottery pick...that's when it all fell apart. I guess similar to Karlsson going to SJ.