Proposal: DET - MIN

[MBH]

We aren’t.

Great.
I only entered this convo because some Wild fan said Helm had negative trade value.

 

[Digitalbooya]

Menell put up 47 pts in 57 games last year in the AHL and 38 pts in 47 games in the KHL this year as a defender. I wanna see what he can do at the NHL level.

 

[KaprizovEntitlelist]

Great.
I only entered this convo because some Wild fan said Helm had negative trade value.

Because he is. It's a fact

 

[MBH]

Because he is. It's a fact

You don't know what you're talking about.

 

[KaprizovEntitlelist]

You don't know what you're talking about.

Apparently you are the only one out of everyone thinking you know better.

Either you are trolling, or looking like a comical joke

 

[hidek91]

Menell put up 47 pts in 57 games last year in the AHL and 38 pts in 47 games in the KHL this year as a defender. I wanna see what he can do at the NHL level.

Yes, me too, I'd like to see him at NHL level and I think Detroit would be a good place for him to show what he's got.

 

[AKL]

Yes, me too, I'd like to see him at NHL level and I think Detroit would be a good place for him to show what he's got.

Then offer a return worth accepting.

 

[CROCODILE SEATS]

Legit forgot Darren Helm existed

 

[Digitalbooya]

Yes, me too, I'd like to see him at NHL level and I think Detroit would be a good place for him to show what he's got.

Then offer a center of similar age and quality...

 

[SirloinUB]

This trade aside, it’s crazy to suggest helm is a negative value asset - out of touch really

 

[AKL]

This trade aside, it’s crazy to suggest helm is a negative value asset - out of touch really

It's honestly almost as crazy to suggest that a guy whose only positive quality is "he tries hard" is going to be something teams spend assets on to give a roster spot and a paycheck to. Maybe some GM will value effort enough to give a late round pick though?

 

[Petes2424]

Minnesota is at the bottom of the league in face-off percentage. Helm could help that but the guy they should be targeting is Glendening.

The funny thing is, Glendening may end up being one of the players who brings the most this deadline. Now that may only be a second or a third and a fourth but what he brings to the table is very specific and there’s a lot of teams looking for that very specific type player.

 

[Dickie Dunn]

This trade aside, it’s crazy to suggest helm is a negative value asset - out of touch really

What does he bring that any other NHL roster doesn’t have two or three of already in the AHL or as a healthy scratch? Detroit lifer isn’t likely to carry weight elsewhere. He is the Detroit version of Stephane Veilleux.

 

[HotDish]

Minnesota is at the bottom of the league in face-off percentage. Helm could help that but the guy they should be targeting is Glendening.

The funny thing is, Glendening may end up being one of the players who brings the most this deadline. Now that may only be a second or a third and a fourth but what he brings to the table is very specific and there’s a lot of teams looking for that very specific type player.

Minnesota is already stock full of 3-4 liners. The Wild don’t need more. We shouldn’t be putting bottom six players into critical face offs.

 

[Dr Jan Itor]

We’re already being pretty generous with the ‘3/4’ stuff. It’s just ‘4’ and we’re set there.

 

[SlimCharles]

Actual trade thread including Darren Helm in 2021. Gotta love HF.

 

[Dr Quincy]

I'm not speaking to that.
I'm not saying the Wild need him. I don't know what the wild need. The Wild are a shit hockey team that I don't try to watch and haven't been even slightly interested in since Gaborik was there.

But if you're a team looking for a 3rd/4th liner who can skate, PK, and even line up at center, Helm is not a negative asset.

I'd take a 4th rounder for Helm.

There isn't a team in the league that is serious about doing anything other than tanking that would play Helm on the 3rd line. None.

Could he play on a 4th line on a good team? Maybe, sure.
Does every other good team in the league have 6 guys in its system that could do at least equally well? Yeah.

He's not a negative asset if retention happens.
But he's not an asset that anyone really needs either.

 

[Dr Quincy]

Actual trade thread including Darren Helm in 2021. Gotta love HF.

Every year the teams that are out of it think that all of their trash will return draft picks.

But sometimes trash is just trash.

 

[MBH]

There isn't a team in the league that is serious about doing anything other than tanking that would play Helm on the 3rd line. None.

Could he play on a 4th line on a good team? Maybe, sure.
Does every other good team in the league have 6 guys in its system that could do at least equally well? Yeah.

He's not a negative asset if retention happens.
But he's not an asset that anyone really needs either.

You speak with certainty that comes off as bullshit to me.

 

[Dr Quincy]

You speak with certainty that comes off as bullshit to me.

Quality analysis.

Enjoy Helm.