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[Doug Prishpreed]

It’s a deceptive measure that’s essentially saying once he’s isolated his top-line straight line speed he’s at NHL level but it doesn’t really reflect his poor acceleration and lateral mobility

Yes, acceleration, not speed. One is m/s, the other is m/s-squared. His acceleration sucks, speed fine.

 

[CaliSabresfan24]

Can he then get the f*** off the ice? Benson would be much better in those spots and won't be fumbling the puck. He literally cost them the game fumbling and forced Dahlin to lose time and space. A bum!

Lol buddy, your reaching wayyyy too hard if you expect Cozens to win the draw in the OZ (which was on the opposite side from your bench) and expect him to skate off for a change in the middle of the PP in that particular situation.

I agree, dude has been terrible for most of the season but come on man

 

[slip]

Another failed comeback after falling behind. Another moral victory.

Get this coaching staff out of here.

So much moral winning. The best moral winning. Dripping with morality. Has there ever been a more moral team than this iteration of the Buffalo Sabres? Somebody call the Pope and clear a path to sainthood.

 

[DJN21]

Yes, acceleration, not speed. One is m/s, the other is m/s-squared. His acceleration sucks, speed fine.

seems an odd hill to die on...he sucks.

 

[Doug Prishpreed]

The team is just too young. It's not fair to them and not fair to fans.

 

[SabresFan26]

I think someone mentioned it's his first few steps, not necessarily his speed. He's technically going at a high velocity compared to other forwards on avg.

Sure his acceleration is brutal.

 

[Deep Blue Metallic]

I'll never give up on this franchise, but it's time for changes, again. Maybe Kevyn "Hoarders" Adams will finally do something meaningful.

Start with the coaching staff.

 

[Doug Prishpreed]

seems an odd hill to die on...he sucks.

He does suck, but he's also a strange hill to die on. He's currently better than Jost, Girgs, Biro, Rosen, Olofsson, Rousek, Power, Samuelsson, E Johnson, Clifton, and Krebs, who all also played many games for the team.

 

[hypaspazz]

G: They have the ability....
B: ....but only for one period a game
U: The GBU threads died along with our team spirit.

 

[DJN21]

He does suck, but he's also a strange hill to die on. He's currently better than Jost, Girgs, Biro, Rosen, Olofsson, Rousek, Power, Samuelsson, E Johnson, Clifton, and Krebs, who all also played many games for the team.

I'd hope so given the amount of money the team wasted on him..

 

[DapperCam]

I’m glad I didn’t watch this one, what a frustrating result. A blowout would have been better!

 

[Deep Blue Metallic]

He does suck, but he's also a strange hill to die on. He's currently better than Jost, Girgs, Biro, Rosen, Olofsson, Rousek, Power, Samuelsson, E Johnson, Clifton, and Krebs, who all also played many games for the team.

Biro, Rosen, and Rousek have "played many games for the team"?

Wtaf?

 

[BuffaloGooner]

Are we ranting yet?

It is obvious to all of us now that Kevyn Adams did this team a complete disservice by thinking a 91 point team could add two 6th/7th defenseman and be out over the top. He relied on defying 100 years of goalie development history thinking Levi could step in, and predictively he needs development time. That’s fine. But now we’re stuck with the goalies everyone knows are either streaky and haven’t put it all together (UPL) or straight up play (Comrie).

He got lucky that a player that fell to 13th overall became one of their only forwards that can win a board battle at 5’9 150 pounds. Incredible. How many times over the last 3 years has it been pointed out by everyone that the defensive zone wingers are easily collapsed upon by a pinching D, and with nowhere to go, turn the puck back over. Or the fact that 4/6 defenseman in the lineup at any point cannot make a quick decision and safe controlled exit to save their lives.

They are wasting time. Again. I bought the rhetoric. I bought that they could grow. But the message has gone stale. You cannot have your Captain, your voice, be one of the worst forwards on ice in the NHL. You cannot look at this defense core and think that the solution was two 6th/7th defenseman, guys that both their former teams literally celebrated being off the roster, could come in and make a material difference. I’m pissed off. They’re so deep in the hole and it’s not even Christmas. Instead of building on last years excitement we’ve become boring and regressed. I’m just upset, it seems like there’s no hope left for the season once again.

 

[Vito_81]

Its unreal how some people can watch this team and single out Cozens as a huge problem, when literally the entire bottom 6 is useless.

But sure, lets dump the 22 year old kid after an underwhelming 25 games, so we can put more pressure onto the 18 year old everyone loves. Its Too bad we sent Savoie back to Juniors. We could have gotten even younger dumping out Cozens for him!

Better yet, Maybe in a few seasons we can turn on Benson too when he’s not a super-stud every night at 21.

All the while we still wont have a single actual vet on the team who can actually still perform on the ice and lead that way so maybe the young kids don’t have to feel like its only on them. But no, thats not Cozens problem. He’s got the leadership around him, he’s just shit I guess…

 

[GrierIsGod123]

Lol buddy, your reaching wayyyy too hard if you expect Cozens to win the draw in the OZ (which was on the opposite side from your bench) and expect him to skate off for a change in the middle of the PP in that particular situation.

I agree, dude has been terrible for most of the season but come on man

Tongue in cheek bro ... I get that he needs to be on the ice. But man, other teams don't have guys fumbling pucks like this clown has been this year. He is not handling pressure well...like even a little bit. My fear is that he's really a 40 point talent that we just paid $7M. I don't think that's out of line. Last year looks more like the outlier when you see his skill level, it's low end in most areas of the ice. He's a mediocre passer, shooter and a good skater with a terrible and I mean horrendous hockey IQ.

 

[Ehran]

The Sabres are 10-14-2 for 22 points in their 26 games. A .423 points percentage (6th worst in the league)

They have 56 games remaining. Assume a minimum of 95 points needed to make the playoffs.

That means they would need 73 points out of a possible 112 remaining points, or a .652 points percentage.

Only 7 teams in the league have a points percentage higher than .652.

What are the chances this team can maintain a .652 pace for 56 games? Not very likely.

That's the position we're in.

 

[Deep Blue Metallic]

Tongue in cheek bro ... I get that he needs to be on the ice. But man, other teams don't have guys fumbling pucks like this clown has been this year. He is not handling pressure well...like even a little bit. My fear is that he's really a 40 point talent that we just paid $7M. I don't think that's out of line. Last year looks more like the outlier when you see his skill level, it's low end in most areas of the ice. He's a mediocre passer, shooter and a good skater with a terrible and I mean horrendous hockey IQ.

A 22 year-old is slumping after a breakout season.

There's no shortage of other disappointing players to criticize. What's with your obsession with Cozens?

 

[brian_griffin]

The Sabres are 10-14-2 for 22 points in their 26 games. A .423 points percentage (6th worst in the league)

They have 56 games remaining. Assume a minimum of 95 points needed to make the playoffs.

That means they would need 73 points out of a possible 112 remaining points, or a .652 points percentage.

Only 7 teams in the league have a points percentage higher than .652.

What are the chances this team can maintain a .652 pace for 56 games? Not very likely.

That's the position we're in.

Well put. Another way: Essentially 1/3 of the season passed. On pace for ~70 points. Instead need >70 points in remaining 2/3 of season to make playoffs.

Can I has all the maths? Maths don't lie.

Them is the facts...

below excerpted from Talking Heads Crosseyed and Painless

The island of doubt
Is like the taste of medicine
Working by hindsight
Got the message from the oxygen
Making a list
Find the cost of opportunity
Doing it right
Facts are useless in emergencies
The feeling returns
Whenever we close our eyes
Lifting my head
Looking around inside
Facts are simple and facts are straight
Facts are lazy and facts are late
Facts all come with points of view
Facts don't do what I want them to
Facts just twist the truth around
Facts are living turned inside out
Facts are getting the best of them
Facts are nothing on the face of things
Still waiting, still waiting, still waiting, still waiting
Still waiting, still waiting, still waiting, still waiting
Still waiting, still waiting, still waiting, still waiting (for the playoffs, of course)

 

[Doug Prishpreed]

The Sabres are 10-14-2 for 22 points in their 26 games. A .423 points percentage (6th worst in the league)

They have 56 games remaining. Assume a minimum of 95 points needed to make the playoffs.

That means they would need 73 points out of a possible 112 remaining points, or a .652 points percentage.

Only 7 teams in the league have a points percentage higher than .652.

What are the chances this team can maintain a .652 pace for 56 games? Not very likely.

That's the position we're in.

Exactly. People laughed when I said this game was the end of any playoff hopes.

It would take a storybook miracle of a season for the sabres to even be in the race in the springtime. It's over. They flamed out once again inn spectacular fashion, before they even had a chance, before the plane ever got off the ground.

 

[CaliSabresfan24]

Tongue in cheek bro ... I get that he needs to be on the ice. But man, other teams don't have guys fumbling pucks like this clown has been this year. He is not handling pressure well...like even a little bit. My fear is that he's really a 40 point talent that we just paid $7M. I don't think that's out of line. Last year looks more like the outlier when you see his skill level, it's low end in most areas of the ice. He's a mediocre passer, shooter and a good skater with a terrible and I mean horrendous hockey IQ.

None of this was the point of the discussion..

 

[HaNotsri]

Are we ranting yet?

It is obvious to all of us now that Kevyn Adams did this team a complete disservice by thinking a 91 point team could add two 6th/7th defenseman and be out over the top. He relied on defying 100 years of goalie development history thinking Levi could step in, and predictively he needs development time. That’s fine. But now we’re stuck with the goalies everyone knows are either streaky and haven’t put it all together (UPL) or straight up play (Comrie).

He got lucky that a player that fell to 13th overall became one of their only forwards that can win a board battle at 5’9 150 pounds. Incredible. How many times over the last 3 years has it been pointed out by everyone that the defensive zone wingers are easily collapsed upon by a pinching D, and with nowhere to go, turn the puck back over. Or the fact that 4/6 defenseman in the lineup at any point cannot make a quick decision and safe controlled exit to save their lives.

They are wasting time. Again. I bought the rhetoric. I bought that they could grow. But the message has gone stale. You cannot have your Captain, your voice, be one of the worst forwards on ice in the NHL. You cannot look at this defense core and think that the solution was two 6th/7th defenseman, guys that both their former teams literally celebrated being off the roster, could come in and make a material difference. I’m pissed off. They’re so deep in the hole and it’s not even Christmas. Instead of building on last years excitement we’ve become boring and regressed. I’m just upset, it seems like there’s no hope left for the season once again.

I thought we would regress this season but not to this level. It's sad.

 

[TheStorm]

This team is like Alan Wake stuck in his loop in the dark place.

 

[SabresFan26]

The Sabres are 10-14-2 for 22 points in their 26 games. A .423 points percentage (6th worst in the league)

They have 56 games remaining. Assume a minimum of 95 points needed to make the playoffs.

That means they would need 73 points out of a possible 112 remaining points, or a .652 points percentage.

Only 7 teams in the league have a points percentage higher than .652.

What are the chances this team can maintain a .652 pace for 56 games? Not very likely.

That's the position we're in.

And no one will be held accountable

 

[Dubi Doo]

The Sabres are 10-14-2 for 22 points in their 26 games. A .423 points percentage (6th worst in the league)

They have 56 games remaining. Assume a minimum of 95 points needed to make the playoffs.

That means they would need 73 points out of a possible 112 remaining points, or a .652 points percentage.

Only 7 teams in the league have a points percentage higher than .652.

What are the chances this team can maintain a .652 pace for 56 games? Not very likely.

That's the position we're in.

Playoffs are a pipe dream now. They've dug themselves too big of a hole.

 

[MOGlLNY]

Are we ranting yet?

It is obvious to all of us now that Kevyn Adams did this team a complete disservice by thinking a 91 point team could add two 6th/7th defenseman and be out over the top. He relied on defying 100 years of goalie development history thinking Levi could step in, and predictively he needs development time. That’s fine. But now we’re stuck with the goalies everyone knows are either streaky and haven’t put it all together (UPL) or straight up play (Comrie).

He got lucky that a player that fell to 13th overall became one of their only forwards that can win a board battle at 5’9 150 pounds. Incredible. How many times over the last 3 years has it been pointed out by everyone that the defensive zone wingers are easily collapsed upon by a pinching D, and with nowhere to go, turn the puck back over. Or the fact that 4/6 defenseman in the lineup at any point cannot make a quick decision and safe controlled exit to save their lives.

They are wasting time. Again. I bought the rhetoric. I bought that they could grow. But the message has gone stale. You cannot have your Captain, your voice, be one of the worst forwards on ice in the NHL. You cannot look at this defense core and think that the solution was two 6th/7th defenseman, guys that both their former teams literally celebrated being off the roster, could come in and make a material difference. I’m pissed off. They’re so deep in the hole and it’s not even Christmas. Instead of building on last years excitement we’ve become boring and regressed. I’m just upset, it seems like there’s no hope left for the season once again.

Good post and level headed.