It’s middle tier if you think points is the sole metric that encapsulates what a Dman is.
In that scenario, it was implied in my mind that Reinbacher would also be good defensively - given he’s known more as a two-way defenseman that pure offense.
It’s middle tier if you think points is the sole metric that encapsulates what a Dman is.
Being the tallest midget doesn't make you a giantHe is on our team
Tbh, Guhle is that Habs' best defenseman right now, Matheson is just getting more icetime.Being the tallest midget doesn't make you a giant
If they tasked Matheson with concentrating on defense and not getting caught up the ice he'd be far superior IMO.Tbh, Guhle is that Habs' best defenseman right now, Matheson is just getting more icetime.
I don't think Matheson has the IQ. I don't think he'd ever be a really solid defensive blueliner. But he's got amazing skating skills and a good instinct for scoring. He's a fine stopgap for us now.If they tasked Matheson with concentrating on defense and not getting caught up the ice he'd be far superior IMO.
I'd have him on an Amber light not a Green one.
He doesn't seem to have the wherewithal to understand when to force a puck and when not to.
Most of his turnovers put us at Defcon 3.
For two seasons now I've talked about how Kaiden Guhle's forays rarely leave us beyond Defcon 1.
Loose sphincters can be a problem, especially in the aging population.After scrolling through endless amounts of remarks, picking up on that a lot of sphincters have loosened up since Reinbacher has finally made it to North American ice. Knowing the crowd here though it's probably just a coincidence, right? lol
Among many other things no doubt.Loose sphincters can be a problem, especially in the aging population.
You realize that defcon 1 is worse then defcon 3 right? Defcon 1 is basically nuclear war is imminent whereas 3 is simply a higher state of readiness.If they tasked Matheson with concentrating on defense and not getting caught up the ice he'd be far superior IMO.
I'd have him on an Amber light not a Green one.
He doesn't seem to have the wherewithal to understand when to force a puck and when not to.
Most of his turnovers put us at Defcon 3.
For two seasons now I've talked about how Kaiden Guhle's forays rarely leave us beyond Defcon 1.
If they tasked Matheson with concentrating on defense and not getting caught up the ice he'd be far superior IMO.
I'd have him on an Amber light not a Green one.
He doesn't seem to have the wherewithal to understand when to force a puck and when not to.
Most of his turnovers put us at Defcon 3.
For two seasons now I've talked about how Kaiden Guhle's forays rarely leave us beyond Defcon 1.
Well f*** Me. Just be glad I don't have access to any buttons.You realize that defcon 1 is worse then defcon 3 right? Defcon 1 is basically nuclear war is imminent whereas 3 is simply a higher state of readiness.
No one will contest that. It actually makes tempering his affinity for jumping even more important for his overall game.I don't disagree, but I think you're underselling the "more icetime part". Matheson plays over 25 minutes a night (5th in the NHL). And its not just ES and PP, he's in the top-20 in PK minutes per game too (almost 3 minutes a game).
Montreal's gotten certain veterans (Matheson, Savard, Evans, etc.) that they give extreme roles to in the name of sheltering some of the younger guys (especially on D).
For all of Matheson's puck management errors, he gives up the puck less frequently than guys like Kovacevic, Xhekaj and Struble. He just has the puck a lot and takes more risks (which lead to more rewards and also end up costing the team more). But he's doing exactly what the organization needs and wants - being a veteran D who will play lots of minutes against top competition and help in transition so they can bring their D prospects along more slowly. One of the reasons Matheson carries the puck more is so Guhle doesn't have to yet. If Matheson looked great in the minutes he played he'd be a top 10 to 15 D in the NHL, and no one could reasonably expect that from him.
Matheson is this teams Brisbois. Second pair guy placed on the top pair and being improperly played because we have nobody else. And people get upset with the guy. Though I will say Matheson is better. Brisbois did earn the name Breezeby for a reason though lol.I don't disagree, but I think you're underselling the "more icetime part". Matheson plays over 25 minutes a night (5th in the NHL). And its not just ES and PP, he's in the top-20 in PK minutes per game too (almost 3 minutes a game).
Montreal's gotten certain veterans (Matheson, Savard, Evans, etc.) that they give extreme roles to in the name of sheltering some of the younger guys (especially on D).
For all of Matheson's puck management errors, he gives up the puck less frequently than guys like Kovacevic, Xhekaj and Struble. He just has the puck a lot and takes more risks (which lead to more rewards and also end up costing the team more). But he's doing exactly what the organization needs and wants - being a veteran D who will play lots of minutes against top competition and help in transition so they can bring their D prospects along more slowly. One of the reasons Matheson carries the puck more is so Guhle doesn't have to yet. If Matheson looked great in the minutes he played he'd be a top 10 to 15 D in the NHL, and no one could reasonably expect that from him.
Yeah, the likeness to the Brisbois seems apt. He may have 'earned' it but he got waaaaay more hate than he should have. Montreal literally had no one else so they threw him to the wolves and he, for the "most" part, soldiered on. Just like Brisbois, I hold no hate, nor animosity towards Matheson. Actually, that goes for D. Desharnai as well. Given roles they didn't have the skills for because there were no others for the jobs (or in DD's case, because management was dumb as bricks). Your modern-day sacrificial offerings...Matheson is this teams Brisbois. Second pair guy placed on the top pair and being improperly played because we have nobody else. And people get upset with the guy. Though I will say Matheson is better. Brisbois did earn the name Breezeby for a reason though lol.
I dont watch enough NHL outside of the Habs, Im already busy with our own prospects and the next drafts. But Heiskanen makes sense, Dobson, Pietrangelo, in that mold.I want your opinion @Goldenhands do you think Reinbacher can reach the level of Heiskanen? I watch both and I see similar style.
I dont watch enough NHL outside of the Habs, Im already busy with our own prospects and the next drafts. But Heiskanen makes sense, Dobson, Pietrangelo, in that mold.
I dont watch enough NHL outside of the Habs, Im already busy with our own prospects and the next drafts. But Heiskanen makes sense, Dobson, Pietrangelo, in that mold.
I don't see Heiskanen. Different play styles. Reinbacher is a very good skater, but Heiskanen is one of the best skaters in the league. I would say to people to try to find videos of Ryan Suter doing his breakout passes. Very similar player.
Im not the best at finding comparables. We could take a bit of Seider, a bit of Pietrangelo, a bit of Suter and Heiskanen I guess... Kid is great at breaking plays with his long reach and mobility, he is a strong skater who can pass sharply and skate the puck up ice. He has alot of top pairing traits.I don't see Heiskanen. Different play styles. Reinbacher is a very good skater, but Heiskanen is one of the best skaters in the league. I would say to people to try to find videos of Ryan Suter doing his breakout passes. Very similar player.
I said Heiskanen because of they attack the offense very similar. They are not "flashy", but they have great speed, IQ, hands.
I agree with you, Heiskanen have great skating, but he is not a flashy offensive D-man. He is intelligent, great passing and know how to attack like Reinbacher.
Suter is more a shutdown D.
Im not the best at finding comparables. We could take a bit of Seider, a bit of Pietrangelo, a bit of Suter and Heiskanen I guess... Kid is great at breaking plays with his long reach and mobility, he is a strong skater who can pass sharply and skate the puck up ice. He has alot of top pairing traits.
Matheson is this teams Brisbois. Second pair guy placed on the top pair and being improperly played because we have nobody else. And people get upset with the guy. Though I will say Matheson is better. Brisbois did earn the name Breezeby for a reason though lol.
I don't see it at all. Heiskanen has elite skating, it's an integral part of his game like it is for guys like Makar or Karlsson. How many defensemen get breakaways like he does ? How many can cut to the inside of two D's, best then with speed and end up alone in front of the goalie to score ? Do you expect Reinbacher to ? He won't. He doesn't have the hands, he doesn't walk the line at that level, not does he have the silky hands Heiskanens has. Not the same kind of player.
Suter was a 40-50 point player top pairing D2 who scored many of his points from his excellent breakout passes. He was regularly in the top 15-20 of points by a D, so not just a shutdown D at all. He wasn't worried about the forechecker, he was looking for his options. He was rangy, covered a lot of ice defensively and was great at using his leverage/body angles to stuff out forwards. Sounds more like someone no ?
Agreed.