News Article: David Desharnais ranked 9th in the NHL for shoot outs

Rozz

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Check it out! lil davy boy is ranked 9th in the NHL for shoot outs.. ahead of Crosby.. not too shabby!

like the article says shoot out specialist are definitely a big need for a team now in days and our favorite whipping boy is one of the best. i was actually quite impressed with his ability for the shoot out all year.. and really with out him we don't got any one else who is really that good at it. Good job DD and keep it up!:yo:


http://www.nhl.com/ice/news.htm?id=729373&navid=DL|NHL|home







Edit: wait! i forgot to slip in an insult towards DD... Im doing it all wrong! no!
 
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Agnostic

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Check it out! lil davy boy is ranked 9th in the NHL for shoot outs.. ahead of Crosby.. not too shabby!

like the article says shoot out specialist are definitely a big need for a team now in days and our favorite whipping boy is one of the best. i was actually quite impressed with his ability for the shoot out all year.. and really with out him we don't got any one else who is really that good at it. Good job DD and keep it up!:yo:


http://www.nhl.com/ice/news.htm?id=729373&navid=DL|NHL|home




Edit: wait! i forgot to slip in an insult towards DD... Im doing it all wrong! no!

Odd... it's based on a strange voting system from 4 NHL.com writers.
 

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Odd... it's based on a strange voting system from 4 NHL.com writers.

whats so odd about it?

Davy is good at shoot out .. and people who are employed to watch/ study /write about hockey by the NHL have recognized him as being good.. good for him.

plus its just nice to seem Montreal Canadien player are being recognized in the top 14 on the different categories and list that they have been doing recently


edit: they also have one for defensemen who excel at both end of the ice and PK is 5th, and one for goalies and Pricer is 3rd ... its just good to see.. enjoy it for a min :)
 

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No shoot outs in the play offs.

so true and being ranked 9th for shoot out abilities doesn't make him a superstar that will carry us to the cup ... but as stated in the article it is a key point in getting to the play offs in the first place... and its nice to have some one who is good at them. no?
 

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Wait a second, we all know DD's no damn good, just ask anyone...

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Rozz

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Wait a second, we all know DD's no damn good, just ask anyone...

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LOL... i know... i know.. what was i thinking?!

but in all fairness i have a list of complaints about the guy like most here... but shoot outs definitely ain't on that list ... and i have no problem admitting that and that i like this particular aspect of his game
 

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Check it out! lil davy boy is ranked 9th in the NHL for shoot outs.. ahead of Crosby.. not too shabby!

like the article says shoot out specialist are definitely a big need for a team now in days and our favorite whipping boy is one of the best. i was actually quite impressed with his ability for the shoot out all year.. and really with out him we don't got any one else who is really that good at it. Good job DD and keep it up!:yo:


http://www.nhl.com/ice/news.htm?id=729373&navid=DL|NHL|home







Edit: wait! i forgot to slip in an insult towards DD... Im doing it all wrong! no!

Credit to DD here, he is good in shoutoot.....

But you forget that without him, we still have Eller who is 4 in 6 attemps in the last 2 years. Therrien just started to get his head out of his ass and started used him last year (3 in 4).

But shootout isn't a big skills in hockey cause you can't use that skills unless the perfect situation comes along. And with a very good team, you shouldn't need "shoutoot" wins in order to make the PO.
 

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Credit to DD here, he is good in shoutoot.....

But you forget that without him, we still have Eller who is 4 in 6 attemps in the last 2 years. Therrien just started to get his head out of his ass and started used him last year (3 in 4).

But shootout isn't a big skills in hockey cause you can't use that skills unless the perfect situation comes along. And with a very good team, you shouldn't need "shoutoot" wins in order to make the PO.

i cant seem to find the data anywhere online to double check your stats .. so i'll take you at your word i guess.. but maybe its because he has been used soo little on the shootout as you suggest that i cant remember him being that good at it.. which is quite plausible.

may i ask where you found this info .. it would be fun to take a look and see how everyone on our team actually fairs in the shootout.

and for your last point.. it seems you're suggesting that being good at shootout's in general is nothing we need to be concerned with at all? all teams eventually have to go to a shoot out here or there with the system the NHL uses. and when you do its quite nice to have some one who is good at them (i don't care if its DD or any one else.. DD just happens to be ranked 9th in the NHL at it)... or would you prefer never standing a chance at winning one? and since we are a good team but not so elite that we wont have to ever face a shootout id prefer to have someone who is good at them, compared to say missing the play offs by 5 points because we didn't win a single shoot out all year.
 

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whats so odd about it? Davy is good at shoot out .. and people who are employed to watch/ study /write about hockey by the NHL have recognized him as being good.. good for him.

plus its just nice to seem Montreal Canadien player are being recognized in the top 14 on the different categories and list that they have been doing recently


edit: they also have one for defensemen who excel at both end of the ice and PK is 5th, and one for goalies and Pricer is 3rd ... its just good to see.. enjoy it for a min :)

Did you even read the article you posted? If you did you might notice that Matt Moulson (13/27) is ranked ahead of DD (13/25), and JVR with only 14 career attempts is ahead of Crosby with 62. So if you're giving JVR a bump because he's got a better scoring pct. then how do they explain Kane (30/77) being ranked 4 spots higher than Jokinen (33/73) and Lupul (11/25) being 3 spots better than DD (13/25).

It's a garbage list due to an odd voting system.
 

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Did you even read the article you posted? If you did you might notice that Matt Moulson (13/27) is ranked ahead of DD (13/25), and JVR with only 14 career attempts is ahead of Crosby with 62. So if you're giving JVR a bump because he's got a better scoring pct. then how do they explain Kane (30/77) being ranked 4 spots higher than Jokinen (33/73) and Lupul (11/25) being 3 spots better than DD (13/25).

It's a garbage list due to an odd voting system.

It's actually a subjective list, and the presence of three Leafs is evidence of this.
 

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Did you even read the article you posted? If you did you might notice that Matt Moulson (13/27) is ranked ahead of DD (13/25), and JVR with only 14 career attempts is ahead of Crosby with 62. So if you're giving JVR a bump because he's got a better scoring pct. then how do they explain Kane (30/77) being ranked 4 spots higher than Jokinen (33/73) and Lupul (11/25) being 3 spots better than DD (13/25).

It's a garbage list due to an odd voting system.

oh i read it ... and i'm not saying its absolute Gospel .. but the voting system isn't that weird. its not based on just stats or it would just be a simple who has the best percentage stat sheet .. its NHL guys voting based on a multitude of things including stats and opinions who they consider best at shoot outs. kinda like make your list out of the whole NHL for a 15 round shoot out. now how they make their top 14 list is only really known by them. but the voting is very simple, more points for the higher ranked vote you got.. 4 NHL writers voting.. add up results .. pretty straight forward. you cant seem to understand it maybe you should read the article again.

but again the whole point is its nice to see a Hab player being recognized by the guys at NHL.COM ... or does the fact its DD cloud your judgement?

do you think that its way off with PK as 5th for defensemen ?
or that their voting that ended up with Price at 3rd for goalies is still so odd?

(the DD hate is strong in this one)

once again its just nice that the guys whos jobs it is to follow hockey all day and night are recognizing Montreal players in their top 14 lists. it feels good! ... or for you i guess it doesn't.
 

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But you need shoot out goals to make it to the playoffs.

See, the Sens and the Leafs have built a playoff team last season... but none of them reached it.

Apparently Leafs built a shootout team as they somehow have 3 in the to 15 in this list not including Kessel. :laugh:

do you think that its way off with PK as 5th for defensemen ?
or that their voting that ended up with Price at 3rd for goalies is still so odd?

(the DD hate is strong in this one)

No one (including yourself) cared enough to make a thread for Subban/Price/Pacioretty being voted among best in their position, doesn't that say enough? I think what's strong here is the opposite of 'DD hate'.
 
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oh i read it ... and i'm not saying its absolute Gospel .. but the voting system isn't that weird. its not based on just stats or it would just be a simple who has the best percentage stat sheet .. its NHL guys voting based on a multitude of things including stats and opinions who they consider best at shoot outs. kinda like make your list out of the whole NHL for a 15 round shoot out. now how they make their top 14 list is only really known by them. but the voting is very simple, more points for the higher ranked vote you got.. 4 NHL writers voting.. add up results .. pretty straight forward. you cant seem to understand it maybe you should read the article again.

but again the whole point is its nice to see a Hab player being recognized by the guys at NHL.COM ... or does the fact its DD cloud your judgement?

do you think that its way off with PK as 5th for defensemen ?
or that their voting that ended up with Price at 3rd for goalies is still so odd?

(the DD hate is strong in this one)

once again its just nice that the guys whos jobs it is to follow hockey all day and night are recognizing Montreal players in their top 14 lists. it feels good.. or if your for you i guess it doesn't.

You're a DD fanboy I get it. it came out in your snide remark in your OP and your sensitivity to anyone questioning the need for a complex voting system. Sorry you have to make more snide remarks to deride people who find the system used, and the results arrived at, questionable. Thanks for the condescending explanation of the voter system, but I think it's clear who did and who did not put in the time to fully read the article.
 

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But you need shoot out goals to make it to the playoffs.

See, the Sens and the Leafs have built a playoff team last season... but none of them reached it.

exactly .. like the article points out

[/QUOTE]It is becoming vital for each team to have at least one player who specializes in shootouts.

Don't think so? Ask the New Jersey Devils, who went 0-13 in shootouts last season and missed the Stanley Cup Playoffs by five points. New Jersey, which converted once in its first 30 shootout attempts last season, became the fourth team to go an entire season without a shootout victory[/QUOTE]
 

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You're a DD fanboy I get it. it came out in your snide remark in your OP and your sensitivity to anyone questioning the need for a complex voting system. Sorry you have to make more snide remarks to deride people who find the system used, and the results arrived at, questionable. Thanks for the condescending explanation of the voter system, but I think it's clear who did and who did not put in the time to fully read the article.

LMAO wow you're a hostile one.

first off no, i don't really even like DD ... i think hes a waste on our top line and its quite annoying watching him get manhandled most nights and that annoyance is only over taken by the stupidity, for what ever reason, that MT won't even try to split max and DD up .. even when he starts the year with the horrific 20 games he did... and i would much prefer eller or chucky to take over the first line C role.

that being said i can be man enough to admit he is good at shoot out.. doesn't mean i want him on my top 2 lines or anchored to our best forward or that i even like him. its this thing cause objectivity .. try it some time.

as far as my snide remark? you mean the little joke in my OP referencing how 99% of threads with DD are negative and while i agree with them i made one that was positive cause i thought it was kinda cool .. well sorry to twist your panties in a knot on ya buddy.. but it was just a joke loosen up.

and further on the snide remarks your the one who started with it when you snidely suggested that i hadn't even read the article i myself posted... ya remember starting your second post with that ... that's what brought on the condescending ton in my response .. but you know what they say "cant take the heat get out the kitchen"

but in the end i'm so sorry to have ruined your day by posting an article that said something nice about DD ... don't worry everyone wont start jumping on the DD bandwagon all of a sudden because of this article.. to admit hes good at shoot outs doesn't mean you have to start liking him .. breath man breath. after all were both Montreal Canadiens fans aren't we?
 

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Apparently Leafs built a shootout team as they somehow have 3 in the to 15 in this list not including Kessel. :laugh:



No one (including yourself) cared enough to make a thread for Subban/Price/Pacioretty being voted among best in their position, doesn't that say enough? I think what's strong here is the opposite of 'DD hate'.

didn't see them until i saw the DD one.. after posting i saw that they have more and i read em and that's why i threw references to em in there .. but in the end whats shocking is that DD got into a top 14 list for anything in the NHL hence being thread worthy i thought... every one expects PK and price in there.. but i can go make them and open those discussion too if it would make you feel better.
 

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exactly .. like the article points out

It is becoming vital for each team to have at least one player who specializes in shootouts.

Don't think so? Ask the New Jersey Devils, who went 0-13 in shootouts last season and missed the Stanley Cup Playoffs by five points. New Jersey, which converted once in its first 30 shootout attempts last season, became the fourth team to go an entire season without a shootout victory

You are definitely right! Just look at the Leafs! With 3 top 15 shootout performers, this propelled them to the playoffs!

:shakehead
 
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i cant seem to find the data anywhere online to double check your stats .. so i'll take you at your word i guess.. but maybe its because he has been used soo little on the shootout as you suggest that i cant remember him being that good at it.. which is quite plausible.

may i ask where you found this info .. it would be fun to take a look and see how everyone on our team actually fairs in the shootout.

and for your last point.. it seems you're suggesting that being good at shootout's in general is nothing we need to be concerned with at all? all teams eventually have to go to a shoot out here or there with the system the NHL uses. and when you do its quite nice to have some one who is good at them (i don't care if its DD or any one else.. DD just happens to be ranked 9th in the NHL at it)... or would you prefer never standing a chance at winning one? and since we are a good team but not so elite that we wont have to ever face a shootout id prefer to have someone who is good at them, compared to say missing the play offs by 5 points because we didn't win a single shoot out all year.

http://www.nhl.com/ice/playerstats....132014&sort=goals&status=A&viewName=shootouts

The thing is with shootout is that nodody had their equal chance to be on the shootout. I'm just saying that nif you expect to make the playoff cause of your talents à shootout, you will be in for an early exit in the PO for sure.

As for Eller:




But you need shoot out goals to make it to the playoffs.

See, the Sens and the Leafs have built a playoff team last season... but none of them reached it.

Hmmm, you might not know that the Leafs got 9 wins in shootout (2nd in the League)

Shootout are nothing more than a competition skills....we might as well make a race between the faster player on both team.
 

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http://www.nhl.com/ice/playerstats....132014&sort=goals&status=A&viewName=shootouts

The thing is with shootout is that nodody had their equal chance to be on the shootout. I'm just saying that nif you expect to make the playoff cause of your talents à shootout, you will be in for an early exit in the PO for sure.

As for Eller:






Hmmm, you might not know that the Leafs got 9 wins in shootout (2nd in the League)

Shootout are nothing more than a competition skills....we might as well make a race between the faster player on both team.


Every single point counts. That can be the difference between Playoffs and no Playoffs.
 

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Something DD's good at, among other things.

But but, wait, no shootouts in POs.

*looks at anti-DD avatar*

I ain't even a hater, but you, you fanboy, you needed to create yet another DD thread where I'll have to tear my shirt to shreds to convince you all that Eller deserved his spot, even in shootouts, yes, hear me, I'm great.

Pshhhh, let's all forget his 51 pts in 59 games, Eller would've done much better in the same circumstances *pats himself in the back* I'm so good I could've outcoached Michel Therrien, in NHL15 I'll win a Stanley cup with an all prospect team, because I'm that good of a coach.
 
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