Fenian24
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Says the guy who wants no touch hockey. I like tough hockey with enough skill to win. You like no contact mens league hockey at the highest possible level or the SEL.
Player Discussion David Backes V
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UncleRico
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When did I ever say I want no touch hockey. Backes skill is greatly diminished. If you are looking for tough hockey and skill, backes isn’t it.
He had 20 points in 70 games while averaging 1:40 of power play time per game.
Also among players to play at least 40 games for the bruins this year, according to advanced stats he played against the weakest quality of competition among all bruins.
So not only was he not producing, he was not producing against the weakest competition any player on the bruins had played against.
Donnie Shulzhoffer
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If Backes could bring a little more speed/skill to his game he would be playing right now. It's that simple.
Sad he won't be in the final game for all the reasons mentioned however there's no arguing he didn't contribute in the run to the stanley cup.
I still maintain had Coolman remained in the line-up the bruins would still be in this position. He brings grit/tenacity/speed which helps the team move the puck that much faster and closes gaps that much faster.
Cassidy going with a better option for the 2nd line - makes sense to me.
Sad he won't be in the final game for all the reasons mentioned however there's no arguing he didn't contribute in the run to the stanley cup.
I still maintain had Coolman remained in the line-up the bruins would still be in this position. He brings grit/tenacity/speed which helps the team move the puck that much faster and closes gaps that much faster.
Cassidy going with a better option for the 2nd line - makes sense to me.
ODAAT
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if Backes only had one of the two dimensions (speed) that you mentioned, he`d be playing but even against a team like the Blues with so so speed, he just can`t assert himself physically as he too often can`t keep up or pressure quickly enough to lay an effective hit
UncleRico
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There isn’t a quote of me saying that. The only thing I’ve said is that backes has been the worst forward on the ice since half way through the Carolina series and that kuhlman should play over him.
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Which I was betting a lot of money on considering the poster that said you did without backing it up as usual. He is Mr. Strawman.
UncleRico
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I just saw in the heinen forum that fenian thinks Heinen is replaceable by an ELC guy and in this forum he is making it sound like backes is a must have out there on the ice.
Blew my mind.
Glove Malfunction
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You get used to it. I mean I appreciate his passion, and his consistency. I just don't agree with his opinion. At least not this one. But at least he seems like decent guy.
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Trap Jesus
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Eat whatever it costs to buy him out. He's beyond awful at that cap hit. At least it's the only bad contract on the team.
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JRull86
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They literally save 500k if they buy him out this offseason.
What's the point of that.
Alberta_OReilly_Fan
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Buyout makes little sense
Paying his bonus and then trading him makes alot of sense if the cap room is needed
My calculations indicate we can likely keep him
His leadership/grit value was shown well during these playoffs. For 2.5 mill, you dont get that from many players
He will only cost a new team 5 mill cash over 2 seasons if we did trade him.
So... my gut says hes around 1 more year but if we are forced to move him, there will definitely be takers... it wont happen until after bonus is paid
Paying his bonus and then trading him makes alot of sense if the cap room is needed
My calculations indicate we can likely keep him
His leadership/grit value was shown well during these playoffs. For 2.5 mill, you dont get that from many players
He will only cost a new team 5 mill cash over 2 seasons if we did trade him.
So... my gut says hes around 1 more year but if we are forced to move him, there will definitely be takers... it wont happen until after bonus is paid
Rubber Biscuit
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Man this contract just doesnt suck financially anymore it stings emotionally. We signed this guy and then lost the cup to his old team in game 7 at home while he was sitting on his 6 million dollar ass eating popcorn. Because he is SO useless they dont even play him in the biggest moment in hockey.
Good f***ing lord Sweeney.
Good f***ing lord Sweeney.
TimThomas24
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I think he should have been in the lineup over Heinen honestly. Backes is a warrior less skilled yes but thats not what defines a team in a Game 7 in the cup. He would’ve given it everything he had along with leadership. Feel for him
AngryMilkcrates
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I feel so bad for this guy.
Out of everything this probably will stick with me the most.
I feel the team and organization let this man down. It might not be true, but it still feels that way.
Out of everything this probably will stick with me the most.
I feel the team and organization let this man down. It might not be true, but it still feels that way.
Mainehockey33
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The organization didn’t let him down. A rookie was the better option and they went with it. Still sucks for everyone but it’s not the organizations fault Backes wasn’t the best option.
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Backes was convinced comming to Boston was his best chance at a cup.
He comes here and gets nothing buck flak from the media for his price tag and declining play. Then they DO get to game 7 of the Cup Final and not only is he sat for several games to just watch and not participate, he watches them lose.
I don't think it was the wrong decision strategically. As I said, " It might not be true, but it still feels that way."
It feels to me we let Backes down.
Imagine being him and having to deal with this. He leaves his lifelong team that he captained to go to a cup contender only to lose in game 7 to the team he left.
This is beyond Iginla, Backes was basically told he was not wanted on the Blues anymore and would be on the 3rd or 4th line. There were issues in the locker room with him leading the team.
It was time to go and he knew it. He made the right decision to come to Boston.
I cannot imagine whats going through that mans head and heart right now.
Krupp
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I do feel bad for this guy. It sucks. He was willing to sit out last night just for a shot at the cup
Well they missed. It is what it is. Iginla never held the cup either though. Such is how it goes. We need to be thankful that Chara and Bergeron at least have had that chance.
Well they missed. It is what it is. Iginla never held the cup either though. Such is how it goes. We need to be thankful that Chara and Bergeron at least have had that chance.
Bmessy
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Hook him up with Kevan Miller's skating coach. Backes thought losing some pounds was enough to keep him relevant. Very far from the truth. If Kevan Miller can go from traffic cone to pretty mobile, Backes can too. If he straight up can't improve well then we're stuck with an anchor.
That said, last night it was glaring how little success our forwards had driving the net. Blues D slammed that door shut several times. Have to imagine Backes would have been battling there. Too bad the games getting fast on him, hope he can turn it around.
That said, last night it was glaring how little success our forwards had driving the net. Blues D slammed that door shut several times. Have to imagine Backes would have been battling there. Too bad the games getting fast on him, hope he can turn it around.
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He's going to be on the 4th line next year, and will continue to suck the life out of any line he's on. Dude is cooked.
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