Player Discussion Darnell Nurse - To bridge or not to bridge, that is the question.

[Jimmi McJenkins]

I'm not devoid of concern that Nurse isn't signed, but there are a few prominent RFAs who still need deals. I'm wondering if it's at the point, where they agree on a 1yr deal between $2.65-3M and Nurse really bets on himself.

 

[nexttothemoon]

Skjei also had had easier zone starts than both Matheson and Nurse as well... which helps account for some of his increased offensive production as well.

Skjei also had that dropoff from 39 pts to 25 pts... coincidentally (or not) his zone starts got slightly harder last season as well at ES so that likely accounts for a bit of that downturn offensively.

Those 3 are all pretty close in value I think when you look how they have performed on a RelT GF% basis with the edge to Nurse/Matheson considering their zone start usage.

Nurse/Matheson slightly above Skjei is how I would rate them.

 

[PaPaDee]

I think they're working on something else before getting Nurse's contract official

Perhaps, but until Sekera is put onto the LTIR, there's not much else they can do to add $. Seems like the best option would be to sign Nurse to a bridge, and then once Sekera is put onto LTIR, look at making some type of move.

 

[nabob]

If he ever got as good as Larsson in his own end and could keep his offensive contributions between the 20-30 point mark. He'd be one hell of a dman. Nurse could learn a bit from Larsson about using his body better. Larsson has brought ALOT of physicality to the backend.

Yeah Larsson is a lot more physical than I was expecting. He hits to hurt. Doesn’t make the big “Double Dion” type hits but never lets himself get caught out of position while doing it.

 

[Tobias Kahun]

Yeah Larsson is a lot more physical than I was expecting. He hits to hurt. Doesn’t make the big “Double Dion” type hits but never lets himself get caught out of position while doing it.

He reads the play so well he doesn’t need to go out of position, another D that does this is matt benning, although not as often as Larsson he can throw some monster hits

 

[hockeyguy1967]

Little Birdy told me he is signing today or at the latest tomorrow.

 

[Fourier]

Yeah Larsson is a lot more physical than I was expecting. He hits to hurt. Doesn’t make the big “Double Dion” type hits but never lets himself get caught out of position while doing it.

I love watching Larsson up close. He is very old school. Not a fun guy to play against at all. Nurse can be a similar player. He is a better skater than Larsson which will help.

 

[CantHaveTkachev]

Little Birdy told me he is signing today or at the latest tomorrow.

how much and how long?

 

[hockeyguy1967]

how much and how long?

No clue, they would not say anything more. Would not even say if bridge or long term.

 

[McAsuno]

Little Birdy told me he is signing today or at the latest tomorrow.

Where's good ol Speedy when we need our turtle.

 

[PaPaDee]

Where's good ol Speedy when we need our turtle.

I think he's done. Haven't seen him in a long time.

 

[Ritchie Valens]

I think he's done. Haven't seen him in a long time.

I recall some posters speculating it could have been Tom Gazzola...I'm starting to wonder if that's not who it was as since he left Oilers TV this past February (kind of an odd time to quit your NHL team reporter/host job), there's been next to nothing on this site from ST-mind you, there haven't been a lot of moves or signings to begin with. I think one of the last posts was either the Jussi Jokinen signing or a player contract extension around a year ago. Some Mods were also saying some user accounts didn't survive the site migration for some reason or another but you think he/she would have simply created a new account.

He/she either got outted as a leak and was relieved of duties/re-assigned or moved on to other things is my guess.

 

[ChaoticOrange]

No clue, they would not say anything more. Would not even say if bridge or long term.

That would make sense. I don’t think Nurse wants to miss any camp time at all.

I think the two sides settle at 1 year 3 mil. Nurse gets arbitration rights the year after, Chiapet gets a year to offload Kassian. That particular overpayment - along with Lucic and Russell - is stopping us from locking nurse down long term.

 

[Little Fury]

That would make sense. I don’t think Nurse wants to miss any camp time at all.

I think the two sides settle at 1 year 3 mil. Nurse gets arbitration rights the year after, Chiapet gets a year to offload Kassian. That particular overpayment - along with Lucic and Russell - is stopping us from locking nurse down long term.

Nickel and diming a young top 4 D man with upside because he overpaid a bottom pairing guy on the downslope is another black mark on Chia's record.

 

[PaPaDee]

That would make sense. I don’t think Nurse wants to miss any camp time at all.

I think the two sides settle at 1 year 3 mil. Nurse gets arbitration rights the year after, Chiapet gets a year to offload Kassian. That particular overpayment - along with Lucic and Russell - is stopping us from locking nurse down long term.

Hopefully it's a 2 year bridge. 2 years @ $3.25M I could live with.

 

[ChaoticOrange]

Hopefully it's a 2 year bridge. 2 years @ $3.25M I could live with.

My honest belief is it’s term holding back the signing. Nurse wants to bet on himself with a one year deal, have a great year, and go for 5+ in arbitration, the Oilers want a safer two year bet. Don’t forget that the Oil can ask for lists from Sekera and Russell... next offseason I think?

 

[ChaoticOrange]

Nickel and diming a young top 4 D man with upside because he overpaid a bottom pairing guy on the downslope is another black mark on Chia's record.

Yup. Honestly given the sounds of things I wouldn’t be surprised if he’d accept a long term deal between 4.25 and 5, if we could offer it to him. That may come back to bite us in the ass.

 

[ChaoticOrange]

Bobby Mac - via Chris Nichols - just said Nurse’s contract negotiations aren’t going well at all.

Not only is this the first sign of trouble, it’s from the Bobfather himself? f***. That’s not good.

Fully expecting the ‘garbage vet+longshot prospect + C+ prospect’ offers on the mains to flow like wine now.

 

[Spawn]

Bobby Mac - via Chris Nichols - just said Nurse’s contract negotiations aren’t going well at all.

Not only is this the first sign of trouble, it’s from the Bobfather himself? ****. That’s not good.

Fully expecting the ‘garbage vet+longshot prospect + C+ prospect’ offers on the mains to flow like wine now.

I'm not worried about the garbage proposals. I'm worried about the garbage trades our GM is wont to do.

 

[ChaoticOrange]

I'm not worried about the garbage proposals. I'm worried about the garbage trades our GM is wont to do.

Nurse for a 32 year old 3rd line winger coming right up

 

[Weitz]

I mean, I don't blame Nurse. When your GM gives money out like candy, you want to get yours.

 

[Jimmi McJenkins]

Bobby Mac - via Chris Nichols - just said Nurse’s contract negotiations aren’t going well at all.

Not only is this the first sign of trouble, it’s from the Bobfather himself? ****. That’s not good.

Fully expecting the ‘garbage vet+longshot prospect + C+ prospect’ offers on the mains to flow like wine now.

Keep those fingers crossed, maybe you'll get lucky with this.

Edit: So you're hoping for something like Nurse for Komarov, good luck

 

[Little Fury]

Yup. Honestly given the sounds of things I wouldn’t be surprised if he’d accept a long term deal between 4.25 and 5, if we could offer it to him. That may come back to bite us in the ass.

I also forgot about the overpays to Cagguila and Koskanen. Easily a million or so bucks between those two that should be going into Darnell's pocket.

 

[CantHaveTkachev]

 

[Jimmi McJenkins]

Well Context sure makes things make sense.