Daniel Sedin's Struggles
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I hate duncan keith. I still can't believe our spineless team still hasn't dealt with him.
Dan hasn't been the same since. Seriously, who viciously cheapshots a Sedin? Two of the kindest people on this planet.
The only thing that disgusted me more than the hit was the pathetic suspension handed down by shanahan and co. screw you shanahan!!!! That should have been a very long suspension, but i guess they couldnt let sweet little boy duncan keith miss the playoffs.
honestly, if they really want to do something with headshots, let players serve longer suspensions during the regular season AND suspend them for at least half of that length during the playoffs. That will stop at least a few clowns from pulling off this nonsense. It lets them know that even if they pull some stunt early on in the regular season that they will still be punished when it counts. I know some teams don't make the playoffs, but I still think it could act as a deterrent.
Dan hasn't been the same since. Seriously, who viciously cheapshots a Sedin? Two of the kindest people on this planet.
The only thing that disgusted me more than the hit was the pathetic suspension handed down by shanahan and co. screw you shanahan!!!! That should have been a very long suspension, but i guess they couldnt let sweet little boy duncan keith miss the playoffs.
honestly, if they really want to do something with headshots, let players serve longer suspensions during the regular season AND suspend them for at least half of that length during the playoffs. That will stop at least a few clowns from pulling off this nonsense. It lets them know that even if they pull some stunt early on in the regular season that they will still be punished when it counts. I know some teams don't make the playoffs, but I still think it could act as a deterrent.
Vankiller Whale
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It's definitely worrying and as time goes on it seems less and less likely Daniel will break out of his funk.
I hadn't thought about a potential difference in contracts between them, but it's certainly an interesting idea.
I hadn't thought about a potential difference in contracts between them, but it's certainly an interesting idea.
polarbearcub
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Pip
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Yeah, this is really concerning, because Hank looks as dominant as ever. I doubt they get different amounts, but I would do 7 for Henrik and 5 for Daniel.
y2kcanucks
Le Sex God
Can we please stop blaming Duncan Keith for Daniel Sedin's decline in play? It's absurd, and completely ignores the fact that Daniel had a 12 game stretch prior to that hit where he scored 2 goals and 4 points. He had been struggling prior to that hit.
Historically, playmakers play at a high level much longer than goalscorers do. Have to wonder if this is what is causing Daniel to fade in relation to Henrik. Probably has more to do with this than the Keith elbow...
I would hold off on re-signing the twins until we see where Daniel's game is at later in the season. If he doesn't pick it up, I don't think you can entertain the $7.5mil, 5 year deal we've seen bandied about. You would probably just find yourself in another Naslund situation 2 years from now. That was ugly.
I would hold off on re-signing the twins until we see where Daniel's game is at later in the season. If he doesn't pick it up, I don't think you can entertain the $7.5mil, 5 year deal we've seen bandied about. You would probably just find yourself in another Naslund situation 2 years from now. That was ugly.
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Virtanen2Horvat
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y2kcanucks
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I'd rather not be paying Daniel Sedin $6M to produce like crap. $5M for him max, and if they insist on matching contracts then Henrik should go down to $5M too.
I don't think twins will go up to 7.5. This is their last contract and they take another home town discount so around 5 to 5.5 million
Virtanen2Horvat
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I wouldn't mind Daniel at 6M but I really want Henrik to get 6.5M but then I don't like the fact that one gets higher than the other.
Henrik had a dry spell at the same time, yet he looks as good as he did in his Art Ross season. Daniel looks like a shell of his former self, weak along the boards, weak on his skates and doesn't look threatening at all. Whereas Hank is carrying this dead weight team as far as he can for the second straight year. We had a crutch in Schneider that we no longer have and the premier players of the past for this team in Daniel, Kesler, Hamhuis and Luongo continue to sputter around. Henrik and Garrison can only take them so far, right now the only support they have is Santorelli, Richardson, Tanev and Stanton. Ie low cost players, all our big money guys are underperforming at the moment.
Produce like crap is an overstatement. He's been a 65-75 point player over the last 2-3 years.
Term is where I would be careful, not so much the dollar figure. A lot of players fall off significantly at 34-36 years of age and locking the twins in to a 4-5 year deal with a big cap hit is risky. The fact they haven't been re-signed makes it pretty clear Gillis is concerned with term as well IMO. Especially when you consider how willing Gillis has been to let other veterans walk when they appraoch the twilight of their careers - Naslund, Ohlund, Mitchell, Salo, Samuelsson, Demitra etc...
Gillis doesn't seem to like players approaching their mid-thirties. This could be an interesting negotiation. Probably not out of the realm of possibility we see the twins pull an Alfredsson if Gillis balks at giving them term.
You risk alienating the entire fanbase if you lose the Sedins however. It's not as even bad as Naslund as we had the Sedins coming up at that point. Gillis is shrewd and calculative and he's definitely cautious of signing the Sedins long term but with the cap going up and the fact that we have no absolute stars coming out of the systems (Horvat and Shinkaruk don't count yet) it puts Gillis in a really difficult position in the direction of this franchise.
Addison Rae
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Hmm so in your opinion Daniel Sedin and David Clarkos are worth roughly the same? Interesting.
Virtanen2Horvat
BoHorvat53
Yeah I agree. I don't want the Sedin's to be signed too high for a long contract. Maybe 2-3 years 6M?
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My Custom Lineup
FORWARDS
Daniel Sedin ($6.000m) / Henrik Sedin ($6.000m) / Zack Kassian ($0.900m)
Hunter Shinkaruk ($1.138m) / Ryan Kesler ($5.000m) / Alexandre Burrows ($4.500m)
Chris Higgins ($2.500m) / Bo Horvat ($1.775m) / Jannik Hansen ($2.500m)
Jeremy Welsh ($1.000m) / Mike Santorelli ($1.200m) / Brad Richardson ($1.150m)
Tom Sestito ($0.750m) /
DEFENSEMEN
Alexander Edler ($5.000m) / Jason Garrison ($4.600m)
Dan Hamhuis ($4.500m) / Kevin Bieksa ($4.600m)
Ryan Stanton ($0.550m) / Chris Tanev ($1.700m)
Yannick Weber ($0.600m) /
GOALTENDERS
Roberto Luongo ($5.333m)
Eddie Lack ($2.000m)
OTHER
Buyout: David Booth ($0.000m)
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(these totals are compiled with the bonus cushion)
SALARY CAP: $64,300,000; CAP PAYROLL: $63,295,833; BONUSES: $1,062,500
CAP SPACE (22-man roster): $2,066,667
I don't know who I would exactly add for another defenseman or forward but we can still afford both for depth.
Pip
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I would be ok with this, but i feel that they'll both get 7 because that's what Henrik is worth
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