GoAwayDanCleary
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- Aug 6, 2012
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This new interview from Cleary you can tell he loves the organization and knows his time as a player is up. Still, seems like he wants to help the kids, which is great in my book. Everyone seemed to speak very positively about him in the AHL.
http://www.freep.com/videos/sports/nhl/red-wings/2016/09/23/90930398/
Seven players (including Daniel Cleary) were released from their tryout contracts and will join the Griffins for training camp. Cleary has signed a contract for the upcoming season.
"Just playing my game, developing good habits, moving the puck good," Russo said. "We had a pretty good team, so that always helps, too. When Danny Cleary got there he definitely helped me out a lot. It's a little tough on you at first, but he keeps you accountable and definitely it helped me out a ton and I thank him for where I'm at today."
...He is an important guy. Time for everybody accept that.
From Malik report:
Cleary released.
Also, Robbie Russo thanks Cleary about his adjustment for pro hockey.
He is an important guy. Time for everybody accept that.
Love all these prospects praising Cleary's influence after hfboards have gone on and on about how useless he is and how he does nothing positive for the organization.
Who has said he does nothing positive for the organization? And most people calling him useless were referring to him being on the roster for the Wings.
I don't know why they didn't give him Fischer's old job instead of hiring Horcoff.
Because he is on-ice developer. Horcoff works off-ice.
Simple things to understand.
Who has said he does nothing positive for the organization? And most people calling him useless were referring to him being on the roster for the Wings.
I don't know why they didn't give him Fischer's old job instead of hiring Horcoff.
Yes, yes. Simple.
Since you obviously have inside knowledge as to what Horcoff and Cleary's roles are, exactly what nuggets of wisdom was Cleary doling out on the ice during games that he couldn't possibly do as an assistant coach or player development role?
For the record, I was a big defender of Cleary when he was relentlessly trashed by Wings fans. And I'm still a fan of the guy. that doesn't mean he's not a symptom of Holland being loyal to a fault (and I'm not referring to this latest deal).
I can't even remember the last time Cleary played an NHL game. [...] Too focused on the distant past to enjoy the now it seems.
Gotta make that room for some other 13th AHL forward. You know, one of those sure things.
Ah yes, the distant year 2015. Back then Barack Obama was President. Game of Thrones was the top show on TV. Adele could be heard on the radio. Truly a very different time.
Would've been a great read in 2013.
Funniest thing ever in any Cleary-case is that still some people think that Dan Cleary killed some of our prospects with his existence and eating the roster space. It has been more of vise versa. He makes those prospects better.
Ah yes, the distant year 2015. Back then Barack Obama was President. Game of Thrones was the top show on TV. Adele could be heard on the radio. Truly a very different time.
Nyquist then definitively proved to be more useful in the minutes Cleary once occupied,
That's the bulk of the actual criticisms right there. And you'll notice how they aren't even actually about Cleary. Not really. They deal with how management and Babcock handled roster and ice decisions.
Indeed. Just as guys like Samuelsson and Bertuzzi took the vitriol before him. They're all symptomatic of the philosophy that some find so frustrating.If you are attempting to make the case that Cleary wasn't the butt of barrage after barrage of direct and personal criticisms, I mean, wow. That guy was savaged. Yes, of course people made sure to blast Babcock and Holland too, but holy cow did Cleary catch shotgun blast after shotgun blast of vitriol from you guys.
Indeed. Just as guys like Samuelsson and Bertuzzi took the vitriol before him. They're all symptomatic of the philosophy that some find so frustrating.
Cleary got a much bigger dose, because his retention was the most extreme example of hanging on to a veteran past their expiration date. But (at least speaking for myself), the root of the problem is the strategy, not the players representing it.