Dan Marrazza, Golden Knights twitter director, is no longer with the organization

[Baxterman]

Turning the Bruins' names into ebonics jokes a la "Ted", and turning the NJ trip into a long running joke about the Sopranos and Italian Americans is something in my opinion, when you represent an organization that images itself as inclusive.

I will have to read about the Bruins one, didn't really care about the NJ one don't see the issue there.

Edit; Just read up about the Boston "incident" unless I missed something (assuming it was the line-up with all girls names and the boston accent comments?) I don't see anything there either.

Seems like a whole lot of oversensitive people getting worked up over nothing.

I don't think they are overly funny so if you want to get upset about that then fine but they aren't offensive or embarrassing.

 

[Baxterman]

It is applicable. Just because there might not be a damage due to mitigating factors doesn't mean the tort wasn't committed.

1) If you were an at will employee and can be fired at any time (which most employees are).
2) If the tweet, even if false, harmed your employer's reputation.

Again, both are unlikely, but that's not the point whatsoever. We're looking at the original tweet. It's not absurd that journalists were upset about a libelous tweet that was an attack both personally and professionally.

An attack???

LOL

The only damage done was by these losers and other losers in the media whining about the tweet. They did a lot more harm to themselves by acting like little bitches to a nothing, harmless tweet.

 

[bluesfan94]

An attack???

LOL

The only damage done was by these losers and other losers in the media whining about the tweet. They did a lot more harm to themselves by acting like little *****es to a nothing, harmless tweet.

Alright dude.

If you're going to keep burying your head in the sand and ignore everything that doesn't agree with you, then I'm not gonna keep trying to help you unbury yourself. Have fun!

 

[Baxterman]

Alright dude.

If you're going to keep burying your head in the sand and ignore everything that doesn't agree with you, then I'm not gonna keep trying to help you unbury yourself. Have fun!

Thanks I will!

 

[IceNeophyte]

I will have to read about the Bruins one, didn't really care about the NJ one don't see the issue there.

Sorry, misspoke. He changed all their names to girls' names in the lineup, a la all the white trash girls Wahlberg was guessing Ted was banging.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/spor...lden-knights-sexism-ted-tweets-nhl/766964001/

 

[tarheelhockey]

No need to make it simple to understand I understand it completely.

Just because you keep regurgitating the same crap over and over again doesn't make it any more relevant.

And again I will like to see more evidence of a single time of clapping in the press box having been used to fire someone. This "fireable offense" crap makes it sound a lot worse than it actually is.

It's well known, as a matter of policy and professional ethics, that journalists do not cheer openly in the press box.

If they do that, they will most likely lose their access to the press box.

Tell me, what are you supposed to do with a journalist who isn't credentialed to enter the media area?
(Answer: fire him)

So yes, he did accuse the Preds media team of doing something which would be considered a fireable offense. And he did it falsely. On the Knights' media platform. Which it is his job to manage. And they had to issue a public apology explaining that they do not endorse his work. And now he is "seeking new opportunities!".

You say you understand this completely but you are not showing the signs of understanding it completely.

 

[Baxterman]

It's well known, as a matter of policy and professional ethics, that journalists do not cheer openly in the press box.

If they do that, they will most likely lose their access to the press box.

Tell me, what are you supposed to do with a journalist who isn't credentialed to enter the media area?
(Answer: fire him)

So yes, he did accuse the Preds media team of doing something which would be considered a fireable offense. And he did it falsely. On the Knights' media platform. Which it is his job to manage. And they had to issue a public apology explaining that they do not endorse his work. And now he is "seeking new opportunities!".

You say you understand this completely but you are not showing the signs of understanding it completely.

Again show me an example of a guy losing his credentials for clapping once in the press box but we both know there is zero chance a guy is losing his credentials based on a one time clapping incident in a press box.

They had to apologize because the world is turning into a PC POS place where it is better for companies to just placate whiners rather than do the right thing.

They didn't have to issue an apology because of what the twitter guy did they had to issue an apology because of the whining and crying of the media guys.

 

[Pay Carl]

You do realize that most beat reporters are not fans of the team they cover right.....right?

Sure some that grew up fans of other teams might not be, but every reporter is rooting for their team to do well

More success = more money. You know that right... right?

 

[Its a Trap]

Sure some that grew up fans of other teams might not be, but every reporter is rooting for their team to do well

More success = more money. You know that right... right?

Wow, look at you! You made the same remark I did as if it makes your comment some sort of logical retort! I didn’t realize beat reporters were unemployed once the season ended. Tell me more!

 

[Pay Carl]

Wow, look at you! You made the same remark I did as if it makes your comment some sort of logical retort! I didn’t realize beat reporters were unemployed once the season ended. Tell me more!

Are you being serious?

You don't see how a team having a successful season and Cup run is profitable to the franchise and therefore the outlets that cover the franchise?

I work in TV. You want your station being watched. It means money

Same goes for print and web

You're being intentionally ignorant if you can't acknowledge that

f***ing hilarious how some of you think guys that cover a sport and a team every day of their lives don't have any emotion towards the team

 

[Ginormousthumbs]

And I believe his last booboo was the incessant Sopranos and italian-american jabs when the team was in NJ. Just my theory, though. Seems to have left the team about when it got back to Vegas.

I wasn’t even aware of that one. Stopped caring after the Nashville booboo

 

[tarheelhockey]

Again show me an example of a guy losing his credentials for clapping once in the press box but we both know there is zero chance a guy is losing his credentials based on a one time clapping incident in a press box.

They had to apologize because the world is turning into a PC POS place where it is better for companies to just placate whiners rather than do the right thing.

They didn't have to issue an apology because of what the twitter guy did they had to issue an apology because of the whining and crying of the media guys.

PC?

You think this has to do with the Golden Knights being PC?

It's really very simple -- if your job is to manage a media channel, you're not supposed to use that channel to make false accusations against your colleagues in another organization. If you do that, you stand to get the can because you suck at your job.

I'm interested to know how someone who apparently has a huge problem with the "PC world" would explain that someone who sucks at their job should be able to keep it even after they screw up again repeatedly in public. In the non-PC world, they kick your ass to the curb and find someone who doesn't suck at life to take your place.

 

[Beville]

I quite liked the guy, so I think it’s a shame he’s gone.

 

[MartyOwns]

I remember their twitter trying really hard during the first scrimmage game between the kings and knight

that was the cringiest thing i've ever read

So you don't understand libel either?

i stand corrected. why are you going on about libel, as though these journalists were damaged or impacted financially in any way? you sound like someone who finally binge watched that DVD collection of The Practice from 2004. what the golden knights guy did isn't actionable in any way whatsoever

 

[romba]

PC?

You think this has to do with the Golden Knights being PC?

It's really very simple -- if your job is to manage a media channel, you're not supposed to use that channel to make false accusations against your colleagues in another organization. If you do that, you stand to get the can because you suck at your job.

I'm interested to know how someone who apparently has a huge problem with the "PC world" would explain that someone who sucks at their job should be able to keep it even after they screw up again repeatedly in public. In the non-PC world, they kick your ass to the curb and find someone who doesn't suck at life to take your place.

PC ‘culture’ of apologizing before the words are out, not actually PC related though. I don’t know the details but saying ‘they apologized and so that acknowledges blame and wrong doing’ is short sighted. If apologizing improves perception of the brand more than clarifying what might have actually occurred, the company will apologize all day and every day and will now also create a charity in support of whatever the complainers want. There is nothing scarier to a big business nowadays than a social media outcry against them.

If the dude was bad at his job and/or created controversy where there was nothing behind it then he definitely should have lost his job, and probably should have lost it earlier, but don’t use the apology as proof.

 

[Seanaconda]

It's nice to know that I'll have this kind of support if I totally **** up my job.

What do you do? Other than moderate unbiasedly

 

[Seanaconda]

Also anti pc culture is just a bunch of guys that wanna use horrible words for people but cry when they are ever called anything like despicable or racist or bigot.

The snowflake caller becomes the snowflake is all pc vs anti pc is. Also this should be on the poli board

 

[romba]

Also anti pc culture is just a bunch of guys that wanna use horrible words for people but cry when they are ever called anything like despicable or racist or bigot.

The snowflake caller becomes the snowflake is all pc vs anti pc is. Also this should be on the poli board

You’re opening a rather large can of worms so I’m just going to say that covering a whole swath of people claiming they’re all over exaggerating whining bigots and racists sounds very objective and thought provoking to me, so thank you for your contribution.

 

[Baxterman]

PC?

You think this has to do with the Golden Knights being PC?

It's really very simple -- if your job is to manage a media channel, you're not supposed to use that channel to make false accusations against your colleagues in another organization. If you do that, you stand to get the can because you suck at your job.

I'm interested to know how someone who apparently has a huge problem with the "PC world" would explain that someone who sucks at their job should be able to keep it even after they screw up again repeatedly in public. In the non-PC world, they kick your ass to the curb and find someone who doesn't suck at life to take your place.

i don't think that he sucked at his job (at least based on this incident) so no I don't agree that he should be kicked to the curb.

I think it is fine when you are running a humor based twitter feed, which this was, to poke fun at people and opponents. It seems like that is the tone they wanted when they hired him. If they want to change that and go with the normal boring twitter feed that most teams have that is fine but he shouldn't be fired for the Nashville tweet as there was absolutely nothing wrong with it at all.

 

[Seanaconda]

You’re opening a rather large can of worms so I’m just going to say that covering a whole swath of people claiming they’re all over exaggerating whining bigots and racists sounds very objective and thought provoking to me, so thank you for your contribution.

Idk why else would you hate pc culture? All it is, is dont use sexist , homophobic or racist words ? Most pc people dont even care if you use them in jokes if they arent awful just dont use them to be an ass is all pc culture is.

Like hey grandma u cant call the black candies n****** babies anymore

 

[tarheelhockey]

PC ‘culture’ of apologizing before the words are out, not actually PC related though. I don’t know the details but saying ‘they apologized and so that acknowledges blame and wrong doing’ is short sighted. If apologizing improves perception of the brand more than clarifying what might have actually occurred, the company will apologize all day and every day and will now also create a charity in support of whatever the complainers want. There is nothing scarier to a big business nowadays than a social media outcry against them.

If the dude was bad at his job and/or created controversy where there was nothing behind it then he definitely should have lost his job, and probably should have lost it earlier, but don’t use the apology as proof.

I hear what you're saying, and it's absolutely possible that the organization didn't even bother to hear him out before issuing an apology. That's pretty much par for the course in situations like this, because a large organization isn't going to want to "own" a controversy which can do them nothing but harm.

The thing is, he's a social media manager. He's speaking on behalf of the whole org. More than anyone else, he needs to know the fine lines involved in public statements about other organizations. Some of the other twitter feeds get really snarky, but he crossed a line that involved other people's professional ethics. He probably wasn't aware of what he was doing, but again it's his job to know that and to respect the professional boundaries.

 

[Baxterman]

Idk why else would you hate pc culture? All it is, is dont use sexist , homophobic or racist words ? Most pc people dont even care if you use them in jokes if they arent awful just dont use them to be an ass is all pc culture is.

Like hey grandma u cant call the black candies n****** babies anymore

No it isn't that at all.

Using racist or sexist comments has nothing to do with being PC it has everything to do with being racist and sexist.

The problem now is that there are things that aren't racist or sexist that labeled that and that anytime that someone cries or whines instead of seeing if it is a valid complaint we just cowtow to them.

This is a perfect example where is the racist or sexist comment that people want to make? The problem here is that the media guys whined so the team realizing that making an empty apology doesn't hurt them and is easier than dealing with the whiney media so they just issue the apology rather than doing the right thing in telling them to pound sand and suck it up.

 

[Stammertime91]

Only thing I found surprising about this is that theres a position to be a Twitter director? What?

 

[Lindys Lazy Eye]

F

 

[Foppberg]

I didn't get the outrage like some people with his tweets, but he definitely came across as a try hard at times.