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Would that be the Coaching Triple Crown, or would it be Gold, Cup and President's?
Or Jack Adams, Cup, Presidents?
Dan Bylsma: Most coaching wins in Penguins history
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Would that be the Coaching Triple Crown, or would it be Gold, Cup and President's?
Or Jack Adams, Cup, Presidents?
Iffyiffiffer
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What coaching has he done that is specifically responsible for making the Pens more capable of surviving injuries than other teams?
I'm not being snarky. I just want to know if we know what it is instead of just assuming that his mere presence is enough to assume he's doing all this. Is it just as simple as instituting the same system in the minors and nhl? Is Dan even responsible for that? Is that not that norm for other teams? I honestly don't know any of these answers, and I am not claiming he isn't responsible.
NastyNick
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Kinda goes with Fleury setting the team's goaltender records.
The Penguins have not had that many coaches with long tenures.. he was guaranteed to get the record at some point as long as he stayed head coach.
More impressive would be Crosby plucking Mario's records some day.
The Penguins have not had that many coaches with long tenures.. he was guaranteed to get the record at some point as long as he stayed head coach.
More impressive would be Crosby plucking Mario's records some day.
Jag68Sid87
Sullivan gots to go!
Waffle Fries
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Bennett Brauer
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Exactly,
Everyone, myself included, has *****ed about Bylsma in the past, but how many teams would love to have him as their coach? He would be a top candidate for any open HC position in the league.
Congratulations Disco! One heck of a coach.
Jag68Sid87
Sullivan gots to go!
I think all 29 other teams would keep their coach, take our two star players instead.
Such a laughable statement. If a player wants a buddy, a substitute teacher, never be yelled at, never have to worry about accountability, then Disco Dan's your man.
If a player wants to win, then maybe not.
Such a laughable statement. If a player wants a buddy, a substitute teacher, never be yelled at, never have to worry about accountability, then Disco Dan's your man.
If a player wants to win, then maybe not.
Le Magnifique 66
Let's Go Pens
He's like 1000 points behind, if the kid can stay healthy for the rest of his career, I think he could possibly beat Mario's points total
Jag68Sid87
Sullivan gots to go!
Dave Strader last night on the national broadcast of the Devils-Flyers game was suggesting that had Jagr not gone to Russia he could have made a run at Gretzky's records.
Some people need to renew their mathematics permits.
Some people need to renew their mathematics permits.
DB has a great record and he is likable. But the playoffs are his full moon and he turns in to a coach who when the team looks for answers, he is clueless. His continued stumbles and not seeing why his system was found lacking in a long series is beyond his understanding. Is he a bad coach no, but just not a great coach. He is Glen Sather.
Ragamuffin Gunner
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Le Magnifique 66
Let's Go Pens
He would have been #2 all time in career points and maybe, maybe a shot at being the only other player besides Gretzky to hit 2000 career points
Seems like a great guy, but he's a ******** of a coach. Too many of those wins were entirely on Sid and/or Geno, not one iota of coaching won them.
Jag68Sid87
Sullivan gots to go!
He is more Jean Perron than Glen Sather.
For sure, which is still far from challenging The Great One.
madinsomniac
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Dan Bylsma, 2009–present
I think of Bylsma as the maybe fifth Or sixth best coach the Pens have employed, based on tactics but based on results and longevity, he is ranked 1st. When I complain about him, it is because I believe his time has come and gone with the club, and that his deficiencies have become part of the issue with the postseason results. That doesn’t mean he isn’t good, just that most NHL coaches have a limited lifespan and areas they either are lacking at or are just too set in their ways to change, even the great ones.
The guys who strategically were clearly better:
Scotty Bowman†, 1991–1993 Best coach in NHL history… 1 bad upset then run out of town for no good reason
Bob Johnson†, 1990–1991 Best coaching job in team history. Died too young
Guys who were better coaches IMO
Herb Brooks†, 1999–2000 Herbie never fully embraced the NHL like he did the national game, but he was a driving figure to instituting some of the more wide open play from overseas. He went back into scouting to give hlinka a shot in the US
Ivan Hlinka†, 2000–2001 He was Herb Brooks for Czech Hockey. Tons of international success, pulled off some upsets his only year here, didn’t speak English well and ultimately lost his job over it
Guy who was the same as DB:
Eddie Johnston, 1980–1983, 1993–1997 Player’s coach. Behind the bench for some of the Pens most disappointing upsets in the playoffs. Eerily similar to DB especially during his second go around
Guys who were good with defensively strict systems
Kevin Constantine, 1997–1999. Pioneered stuff like film study for opponents. Was ahead of his time but not well liked
Michel Therrien, 2005–2009 was a defensive minded coach who laid the foundation for Bylsma’s success
Other notables: (Most of which did not get the luxury of Sid, Geno, or Mario)
George "Red" Sullivan, 1967–1969 First ever coach… never made the playoffs
Red Kelly*, 1969–1973 HOF player at coach… second ever coach. Made the playoffs 2 of 3 years then left
Ed Olczyk, 2003–2005 Had a good system, was the driving factor behind the AHL/NHL teams playing the same general systems, was totally undermined by vets.
Craig Patrick†, 1989–1990, 1997 GM taking the behind the bench duties
Pierre Creamer, 1987–1988 Still the only one year coach in NHL history to finish with a winning record… finished dead last in the division though
Rick Kehoe, 2001–2003 Longtime pens assistant coach. Coached them through the really bad era
I think of Bylsma as the maybe fifth Or sixth best coach the Pens have employed, based on tactics but based on results and longevity, he is ranked 1st. When I complain about him, it is because I believe his time has come and gone with the club, and that his deficiencies have become part of the issue with the postseason results. That doesn’t mean he isn’t good, just that most NHL coaches have a limited lifespan and areas they either are lacking at or are just too set in their ways to change, even the great ones.
The guys who strategically were clearly better:
Scotty Bowman†, 1991–1993 Best coach in NHL history… 1 bad upset then run out of town for no good reason
Bob Johnson†, 1990–1991 Best coaching job in team history. Died too young
Guys who were better coaches IMO
Herb Brooks†, 1999–2000 Herbie never fully embraced the NHL like he did the national game, but he was a driving figure to instituting some of the more wide open play from overseas. He went back into scouting to give hlinka a shot in the US
Ivan Hlinka†, 2000–2001 He was Herb Brooks for Czech Hockey. Tons of international success, pulled off some upsets his only year here, didn’t speak English well and ultimately lost his job over it
Guy who was the same as DB:
Eddie Johnston, 1980–1983, 1993–1997 Player’s coach. Behind the bench for some of the Pens most disappointing upsets in the playoffs. Eerily similar to DB especially during his second go around
Guys who were good with defensively strict systems
Kevin Constantine, 1997–1999. Pioneered stuff like film study for opponents. Was ahead of his time but not well liked
Michel Therrien, 2005–2009 was a defensive minded coach who laid the foundation for Bylsma’s success
Other notables: (Most of which did not get the luxury of Sid, Geno, or Mario)
George "Red" Sullivan, 1967–1969 First ever coach… never made the playoffs
Red Kelly*, 1969–1973 HOF player at coach… second ever coach. Made the playoffs 2 of 3 years then left
Ed Olczyk, 2003–2005 Had a good system, was the driving factor behind the AHL/NHL teams playing the same general systems, was totally undermined by vets.
Craig Patrick†, 1989–1990, 1997 GM taking the behind the bench duties
Pierre Creamer, 1987–1988 Still the only one year coach in NHL history to finish with a winning record… finished dead last in the division though
Rick Kehoe, 2001–2003 Longtime pens assistant coach. Coached them through the really bad era
Le Magnifique 66
Let's Go Pens
IcedCapp
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Wes C Addle
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A nice accomplishment for DB, but would rather see him bring back another Cup. If he can show this postseason that he can make the right adjustments and personnel decisions it'd go a long way towards validating his worth. As is, congrats.
Crafton
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in light of madinsomniac's great coaching recap, anybody have thoughts on Marc Boileau, Ken Schinkel and Johnny Wilson? the coaches from between Red Kelly and EJ. the team made the playoffs five times in seven years (and seven in ten including EJ's first stint) before the epic mid 80s nosedive.
Jag68Sid87
Sullivan gots to go!
They used three coaches in those seven years? I'm guessing they weren't very good then.
ZapRowsdower13
Ticklish Tummy Tumx2
Good job DB. Thanks for doing well in the regular season. Can you please make more of an effort in the playoffs.
PKV Jungle Friends
Not Growing a Garden
Let's take stock:
- most wins in Pens franchise history
- Jack Adams award winner
- Stanley Cup winner
- head coach of Team USA in the Olympics
There are a lot of smart hockey fans that post around here, including yourself IC but the blind hatred of Disco and refusal to look at his track record of success is borderline stupid at this point.
Is he a brilliant strategic mind? No, but he's not even close to the buffoon that this group makes him out to be. If the Pens ever let him go he would be picked up IMMEDIATELY by almost anyone that had a vacancy.
PKV Jungle Friends
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watch me whip and nae nae
WayneSid9987
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DB's 2009 Home Playoff Record: 9-2
Away: 7-6
Since then, Home Record: 10-12
Away: 10-9
The bold stat is really the one that jumps out at you. You're never in trouble in the playoffs until you lose at home and DB has done alot of it in the playoffs after his Cup win.
Congrats though!
Great reg. season coach.
Away: 7-6
Since then, Home Record: 10-12
Away: 10-9
The bold stat is really the one that jumps out at you. You're never in trouble in the playoffs until you lose at home and DB has done alot of it in the playoffs after his Cup win.
Congrats though!
Great reg. season coach.
