Speculation: Damien Cox on CBC: Wings willing to move 1st round pick and/or Mantha at draft

[Hankerchief*]

Huh. CBC just said that Wings looking to deal. 1st pick and Mantha are available. They weren't last year or up to the trade deadline.

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[Heaton]

Who do you think Holland might be targeting with those pieces?

 

[LeafChief]

Dion?

 

[hyduK]

No mention if they were looking to move up in the draft or for a roster piece. How far could we realistically move up with both of those packaged? It would have to be high enough to guarantee us drafting a D-man that we're targeting. Otherwise hopefully we're looking at a #2 D-Man.

 

[Unfriendly Ghost]

Mantha? Really? What a ridiculous idea. They would get about half value at most. You don't publically trash a guy and then hope to deal him later and pretend like nothing ever happened.

But thankfully Ken Holland doesn't believe in trading.

 

[Hankerchief*]

 

[Hankerchief*]

 

[Unfriendly Ghost]

Seriously, no. No no no no no. No Phaneuf. No. Literally anybody else.

 

[LeighDx59]

If you move him, move him West, shoot for Myers or Big Buff. No Toronto, No Phaunef.

 

[r0bert8841]

For what?! That sounds like the Wings are pursuing something desparetely. It would be nice to know what that is.

 

[SimplySolace]

Please not Phaneuf.

 

[Unfriendly Ghost]

When we said we wanted you to make a trade, we didn't mean to trade these assets! Trade a damn winger. Trade one of those lump of coal defensemen. Don't trade the first or the money prospects, Holland! Honestly.

 

[Winger98]

Who do you think Holland might be targeting with those pieces?

My honest guess is that he's looking at someone like OEL and is going to strike out on it.

 

[Heaton]

When we said we wanted you to make a trade, we didn't mean to trade these assets! Trade a damn winger. Trade one of those lump of coal defensemen. Don't trade the first or the money prospects, Holland! Honestly.

I'm starting to get a little more worried about those defensemen. Maybe none of them are really worth anything. I'm not sure what defensemen are available.

And I think you're overreacting, he never said we were targeting Phaneuf again.

 

[Heaton]

My honest guess is that he's looking at someone like OEL and is going to strike out on it.

You mean, kick the tires?!

 

[DRW204]

I havent watched Mantha play, is his play really warranting this organizational criticism?

 

[Lil Sebastian Cossa]

I have to think they have a bigger target in mind than Dion Phaneuf. It doesn't make sense that they'd balk at Mantha in March only to deal him in the same trade now. They had to already be disappointed with the way his season was going by deadline time.

Mostly, I just have to believe they have a bigger target, because I'd be really underwhelmed if they just took a similar deal to the one that existed at the deadline.

 

[Frk It]

I will be seriously pissed if we trade this years 1st rounder. Especially if it was for Phaneuf.

Mantha l I like a lot, but I would trade for help on the blue line.

 

[Unfriendly Ghost]

I'm starting to get a little more worried about those defensemen. Maybe none of them are really worth anything. I'm not sure what defensemen are available.

And I think you're overreacting, he never said we were targeting Phaneuf again.

Cox is heavily, heavily implying that. He followed up his 1st+Mantha available tweet with a bunch about the Phaneuf trade.

Ex:

Damien Cox ‏@DamoSpin 2m2 minutes ago
The proposed deal, btw, was Phaneuf for Weiss, Smith and Mantha. DET didn't want to surrender Mantha at that time.


Detroit offered Weiss, Smith, Pulk but Toronto wanted Mantha instead.

 

[HisNoodliness]

Unless this is a really big trade for a young #1 D (highly doubt it especially because we would need to include more and Holland isn't that brave) this is really bad news. If we trade our prospect with the most offensive upside for Dion Phaneuf I'm going to lose my s***!

 

[Heaton]

I'm not sure what to think. Phaneuf is probably better than anyone available in free agency. At least now we'll have some anticipation again for something that will never happen.

 

[DRW204]

Holland also said around the TDL he wasnt going to trade first round picks. package must be bigger than Phaneuf if hes considering this time around (along with Mantha)

Holland has held fast to his position that he will not trade any first-round picks. But his NHL club is flourishing with young players, and its top minor-league affiliate in Grand Rapids is stacked.

http://www.foxsports.com/detroit/st...e-moves-before-monday-s-trade-deadline-030115

 

[r0bert8841]

I have to think they have a bigger target in mind than Dion Phaneuf. It doesn't make sense that they'd balk at Mantha in March only to deal him in the same trade now. They had to already be disappointed with the way his season was going by deadline time.

Mostly, I just have to believe they have a bigger target, because I'd be really underwhelmed if they just took a similar deal to the one that existed at the deadline.

That's what I am thinking. We need to brain storm, what else is out there that's bigger?? Yandle? OEL? Myers? What else could we be after?

 

[Unfriendly Ghost]

Does everything going kaput in Arizona make OEL more or less available? I'm thinking less.

 

[Frk It]

I'm not sure what to think. Phaneuf is probably better than anyone available in free agency. At least now we'll have some anticipation again for something that will never happen.

Rather have Paul Martin, but that's just me.