Damien Brunner

[Oneiro]

There's a team that's 30th in the league when it comes to shots.

That team decides to unload a guy who is known purely for his scoring ability.

Yeah, we're going to get something good for Brunner.

 

[glenwo2]

There's a team that's 30th in the league when it comes to shots.

That team decides to unload a guy who is known purely for his scoring ability.

Yeah, we're going to get something good for Brunner.

I said Brunner AND Ryder and when did I say we would get something "good"?

A Prospect(low-end) is the best these two underachieving jabronies would land us at this point...

 

[ThePSEGPowerPoster]

This is what happens when you bring offensively skilled players into this system. It's going to take him a while to figure it out and even longer to find consistency.

A ton of guys here want similar (albeit more skilled) young players like Yak and Eberle and all I can think of is how invisible they would be in our restraining dump and chase system.

Brunner and Loktionov match up perfectly with Elias. If Pete allows then to rush up the ice and not dump it every 5 seconds we would see the Brunner from Detroit and the Loktionov who was lighting it up with Kovy.

However I doubt Pete even considers that because he's pleased with Lokti's progression defensively and doesn't want to risk regression.

 

[JerryGigantic]

This is what happens when you bring offensively skilled players into this system. It's going to take him a while to figure it out and even longer to find consistency.

A ton of guys here want similar (albeit more skilled) young players like Yak and Eberle and all I can think of is how invisible they would be in our restraining dump and chase system.

Brunner and Loktionov match up perfectly with Elias. If Pete allows then to rush up the ice and not dump it every 5 seconds we would see the Brunner from Detroit and the Loktionov who was lighting it up with Kovy.

However I doubt Pete even considers that because he's pleased with Lokti's progression defensively and doesn't want to risk regression.

Elias - Lokti - Brunner might work. Can enter the zone with speed. And two creative playmakers to feed the half-trick pony.

But wow, Brunner does not play Devils hockey.

 

[TheDevilMadeMe]

Elias - Lokti - Brunner might work. Can enter the zone with speed. And two creative playmakers to feed the half-trick pony.

But wow, Brunner does not play Devils hockey.

Devils hockey? At this point I'm questioning whether Brunner plays NHL hockey. Those lazy circles he skates might work in Europe against lesser defenders on a larger ice surface...

 

[DEVILS ALL THE WAY*]

I didn't think Brunner was that bad away from the puck. He's the type of player I can't stand playing with... Someone that will give it it's all to go on offense and won't waste a second of hard work, to get the puck back.

I'd send his ass packing at the deadline. He's no better then Tedenby defensively and it's not like he's doing much offensively.

 

[JerryGigantic]

Devils hockey? At this point I'm questioning whether Brunner plays NHL hockey. Those lazy circles he skates might work in Europe against lesser defenders on a larger ice surface...

And his floating in the defensive zone cost us a point last night.

He is literally a liability in all three zones.

Holy God he needs to go.

Similar stats aside, among the "snipers" Ryder has just been snakebit, I think there will be a stretch with Henrique or Elias at some point where he just lights it up. He seems like he is right on the cusp.

Brunner, however, is like watching a man drowning out there.

 

[ThePSEGPowerPoster]

I can only preach patience. Imagine having to relearn the way you played hockey? It's going to take time. He's not exactly in his comfort zone. I don't mind if you sit him and let him learn in practice but I'm not about to give up on him entirely.

 

[glenwo2]

I can only preach patience. Imagine having to relearn the way you played hockey? It's going to take time. He's not exactly in his comfort zone. I don't mind if you sit him and let him learn in practice but I'm not about to give up on him entirely.

Lou didn't bring him here to re-learn how to play hockey!

He did it to help provide some offense to a team desperate for it. KNOWING how to play hockey was ASSUMED.

Looks like Lou was wrong....through no fault of his own.

 

[JK3]

Don't know how much more patience you can have with the guy. Maybe I'm paying too much attention to him but he looks like he's regressing. He still doesn't know where to go or where to be after 20+ games, he's completely lost out there.

 

[ThePSEGPowerPoster]

Well he was on a team that let him rush and pass and be creative. Now he's on a team that dumps and chases and demands defense.

It's going to take a long long time guys. It's been a year and only now is Loktionov and Teddy starting to play solid D.

 

[Officer Rod Farva]

Who's Damien Brunner?

 

[JK3]

We don't demand guys dump and chase, we do it cause we're not skilled enough to carry the puck into the zone most of the time.

 

[ThePSEGPowerPoster]

We don't demand guys dump and chase, we do it cause we're not skilled enough to carry the puck into the zone most of the time.

Seems like we demand it. I'm pretty sure Patty, Jagr, Loktionov, Brunner, Teddy, and Ryder can do it.

It's a team wide philosophy.

 

[Wingman77]

We don't have a player that can or is even willing to try to blow by opposing defense men when we're entering our O zone

It's the same thing every time, stop short, look for pass, if not, dump - no attempt to even skate it into the corner

 

[glenwo2]

Who's Damien Brunner?

I think he may have renovated MSG.

Did you hear about that?

 

[captainscott]

We don't demand guys dump and chase, we do it cause we're not skilled enough to carry the puck into the zone most of the time.

Thank you sir. Jagr carries the puck in because he can. Guys dump the puck because their skill set calls for it. Coaches don't preach giving up control of the puck.

 

[DevilsJunkie]

We don't have a player that can or is even willing to try to blow by opposing defense men when we're entering our O zone

It's the same thing every time, stop short, look for pass, if not, dump - no attempt to even skate it into the corner

Truth. And it is infuriating.

 

[Rhodes 81]

Lou didn't bring him here to re-learn how to play hockey!

He did it to help provide some offense to a team desperate for it. KNOWING how to play hockey was ASSUMED.

Looks like Lou was wrong....through no fault of his own.

how do you figure that?

if a player doesn't work out, it's either the gm's fault for signing a bad player or it is the coach's fault for using him incorrectly. either brunner is a useful player and he just doesn't fit into deboer's system, or he's a bad player and lou messed up giving him a contract.

lou has proven in the past that he knows how to build teams, and i'd guess that ability hasn't left, so it must be that brunner is a good player, just that he doesn't fit with deober. i suspect that if we ran any system besides dump and chase, we'd all be perfectly happy with brunner. however this is the reason i wasn't that excited about signing him. he just doesn't fit here.

 

[BenedictGomez]

This guy has shown me nothing.

I wouldnt mind so much if he was having an off month or two, as it has only been 20'ish games or so, but he appears to be lazy to me, and that is inexcusable if true.

 

[TheDevilMadeMe]

This guy has shown me nothing.

I wouldnt mind so much if he was having an off month or two, as it has only been 20'ish games or so, but he appears to be lazy to me, and that is inexcusable if true.

yeah, I agree with you here. If he was trying hard to fit into the system and failing, I could see giving him more time, but it really doesn't even look like he's trying that hard most of the time. I mean, I realize that European hockey is lower intensity than the NHL, but still, the guy barely made the team as a tryout, you figure we'd see a greater effort level from him than this.

 

[ThePSEGPowerPoster]

When I watch him play I feel like he's trying. I guess it's just subjective. To me it looks like a guy trying to do something he's not very good at. He tries to crash hard and fight for pucks and just ends up overmatched. Horrible positioning and he gets tired very quickly. Constantly calling to be taken off the ice.

Just the little things I notice. I don't believe his effort is a problem because if his teammates or Pete thought it was he really wouldn't be playing. He's just not the kind of guy who fits this system.

 

[glenwo2]

how do you figure that?

if a player doesn't work out, it's either the gm's fault for signing a bad player or it is the coach's fault for using him incorrectly. either brunner is a useful player and he just doesn't fit into deboer's system, or he's a bad player and lou messed up giving him a contract.

lou has proven in the past that he knows how to build teams, and i'd guess that ability hasn't left, so it must be that brunner is a good player, just that he doesn't fit with deober. i suspect that if we ran any system besides dump and chase, we'd all be perfectly happy with brunner. however this is the reason i wasn't that excited about signing him. he just doesn't fit here.

How about a third reason?

That Brunner just doesn't mesh with the NHL's style of play?

That could also play a factor....

 

[ThePSEGPowerPoster]

How about a third reason?

That Brunner just doesn't mesh with the NHL's style of play?

That could also play a factor....

But he's proven that's not the case. As a rookie in this league he was a solid third liner, surrounded by players who compliment him.

You're asking a guy who has never played an aggressive forecheck, dump and chase to do that. It's going to take a long time for him to find his niche in this system - and he might not find it at all.

 

[ThePSEGPowerPoster]

Also to the poster who says Brunner not carrying the puck in the zone = he's unable to do it:





Put Elias and Loktionov with Brunner and let them play hockey. But our coach won't do that. Everyone has to dump and chase.