Proposal: Dallas Re-tool

[north49er]

How does that horrible trade with the Habs help Dallas retool?

Also, didn't Dallas try to re-tool this year?

 

[Jared Dunn]

This is one of the wildest rides I have ever been on but definite yes to the Montreal trade but only if you throw in Benn or Seguin that is a must

 

[Jared Dunn]

Also, didn't Dallas try to re-tool this year?

Not really, they didn't really lose anybody and just added Radulov, Bishop and Methot to go for it. Pretty disappointing season, I thought they'd finish second in the central

 

[FirstRowUpperDeck]

First, it is said the winner of the trade is usually the team that gets the best player. While Miro is still a prospect, he is long term probably the most valuable player in the deal, so Stars lose in the quality for quantity deal.

Second, they don't really need a deal like this to jettison Spezza, et al., and sign many others. Why take the chance on trading a Shaw and/or why acquire him if he doesn't fit?

The only value would be if the players acquired (plus, barring lottery, picking up a few spots in the order) fill the needs we have?

 

[haveandare]

I don't think either of those trades are very realistic. Dallas needs depth forwards more than anything, the should fire their GM and get one who can draft even passably well, could be ready to win in a few years if they make some shrewd trades for depth and draft with even close to average success.

They already have the hardest parts in place - elite level 1C, game changing winger and an excellent two way 1D.

 

[ChicagoBullsFan]

Dallas is not moving Heiskanen, especially for that package.

I don't remember exactly who that NHL reporter was who mentioned Heiskanen's name in Erik Karlsson's trade speculation earlier this year. Yes it's not likely Dallas trades Heiskanen but in NHL everything is possible.

When Wayne Gretzky has got traded in late 80's i don't see any reason why that can't happen to Heiskanen too.

 

[WhatWhat]

Good lord this is bad. As others said MTL doesnt have a player in their system I would consider moving Heiskanen for. There simply isnt a player who is talented enough and young enough to consider moving him for. Also based on the lines you drew up and the pairing its pretty clear you dont watch Dallas play


Here is a better game plan. Keep heiskanen, then we dont have to trade pick for Brodie. Sign a top 6 winger as a UFA and get a new coach. Much simpler and better

Also the thought of keeping Pateryn makes me sick

 

[DRW204]

Dallas' hole is secondary scoring. they do not need to move a 2018 1st and the top d prospect to fill it

 

[Satan]

Epic retool OP

 

[oconnor9sean]

They’d be comfortably in the playoffs save for an extremely bizarre month of March (it’s really hard to lose 8 games in a row, regardless of how good/bad you actually are). There will definitely be some tinkering to the roster, but I doubt any major overhaul will take place nor do I think it’s needed.

Maybe they trade for Patches from Montreal, or go after a UFA winger, but next years Stars team won’t look too much different, and that’s ok.

 

[tgo0]

Everyone's mad about the Habs proposal, but 2 2nds and a 3rd for Brodie?

Was just about to post the exact same thing.

Obviously the Dallas trade is horrible but this dumpster fire offer isn’t getting nearly enough vitriol.

 

[north49er]

Not really, they didn't really lose anybody and just added Radulov, Bishop and Methot to go for it. Pretty disappointing season, I thought they'd finish second in the central

Agree. After the top line and Klingberg it was a disaster. Will Hitch be safe?

 

[AveryStar4Eva]

I do think Dallas should re-tool, just not like this. I'm on board with dumping a few of the guys that don't do a lot for the team (Ritchie, Spezza, and Shore) if we are able to gain some better players through trade or signings. Any players that can provide offensive support are welcome.

I'm done with Hitch too

 

[HolyCrap]

Is scoring the biggest need for Dallas? Im just asking as I don't get to see them play much at all. Maybe they take a run at JVR? I have no clue what their cap situation is.

 

[mouser]

My brain hurts reading this.

And I always hate how OP’s post what their rosters looks like afterward, while ignoring what the other teams involved in the trade’s rosters look like.

 

[MrHeiskanen]

Dallas is in such limbo IMO. They have a lot of good young pieces but a lot of pieces that if they wait a few years, it's really bad diminishing returns. Spezza is getting old, they still don't have a solution in net, Benn likely declines in two years before they are ready to win anything , Seguin will need a huge raise, the defense still isn't solidified.

Not saying Benn or seguin should be traded but they should definitely clear spezza if they can for a max return, maybe even radulov, because he holds no near term value to them over what he can return in a trade. Hell, even he turns 32 this summer

Colton Point and Jake Oettinger aren't solutions in net?

 

[HawkeyTalkMan]

Colton Point and Jake Oettinger aren't solutions in net?

How about we talk when they have a full time NHL resume. But as of right now, no.

Jack Campbell at one point was the answer too.

 

[ZeHockeyFan]

draft and develop which may be tough with their blockhead GM.

Nill and McDonnell: Hold our beers.

 

[Maukkis]

Saw the username and knew that a horrible Habs trade was just one click away. Was not disappointed.

Heiskanen should be off limits for anything that does not resemble what Heiskanen will likely be in three years. Montreal has nothing I would be interested in, anyway.

 

[Starat327]

I thought I was entering a re tool thread, but it was just a cleverly disguised Heiskanen to MTL thread.

 

[Captain97]

The Habs will have to think about it but that offer seems acceptable.

 

[DALLAS90]

Benn - Seguin - Ritchie
van Riemsdyk - Spezza - Radulov
Janmark - Faksa - Hintz
Shore - Hanzal - Pitlick

Lindell - Klingberg
Methot - Honka
Heiskanen - Johns

Bishop/Hutton

Benn - Spezza - Radulov
Seguin - Klingberg

Janmark - Hintz - van Riemsdyk
Shore - Honka

 

[rent free]

Pretty sure this thread should be locked now

 

[2020 Cup Champions]

No one even got down to James Neal signing for 5x5... unless there's another Neal I'm forgetting. He's going to get the Okposo special.

 

[ZeHockeyFan]

Benn - Seguin - Ritchie
van Riemsdyk - Spezza - Radulov
Janmark - Faksa - Hintz
Shore - Hanzal - Pitlick

Lindell - Klingberg
Methot - Honka
Heiskanen - Johns

Bishop/Hutton

Benn - Spezza - Radulov
Seguin - Klingberg

Janmark - Hintz - van Riemsdyk
Shore - Honka

No!