Trade: [DAL/BKN] Kyrie Irving and Markieff Morris for Spencer Dinwiddie, Dorian Finney-Smith, 2029 1st round pick, 2027 and 2029 2nd round picks

dahrougem2

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Why are people so quick to jump all over Kyrie with whatever he says?

Even if he has said some crazy s**t, it is still entirely possible that he soured on the organization after signing there and seeing how they operate day-to-day. I'm sure events over the next few years added to that from his own point of view.
 

Scandale du Jour

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Why are people so quick to jump all over Kyrie with whatever he says?

Even if he has said some crazy s**t, it is still entirely possible that he soured on the organization after signing there and seeing how they operate day-to-day. I'm sure events over the next few years added to that from his own point of view.
Kyrie does not live in reality. That is the problem.
 

dahrougem2

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Kyrie does not live in reality. That is the problem.
I don't deny that this guy's personality is really "out there." He says crazy stuff all the time and may not be all there.

However, this is one instance where he may not be crazy. Harden asked out, KD asked out and then Kyrie asked out. Three mega superstars in less than two years wanting to get the f*** away from the same organization? That's not a "Kyrie is crazy" issue, that's a "Brooklyn Nets are f***ed" issue.
 

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I don't deny that this guy's personality is really "out there." He says crazy stuff all the time and may not be all there.

However, this is one instance where he may not be crazy. Harden asked out, KD asked out and then Kyrie asked out. Three mega superstars in less than two years wanting to get the f*** away from the same organization? That's not a "Kyrie is crazy" issue, that's a "Brooklyn Nets are f***ed" issue.

I mean at the time Kyrie was said to be the cause of Harden issue.

Irving was a massive stress for Nets his entire stay there.
 
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I don't deny that this guy's personality is really "out there." He says crazy stuff all the time and may not be all there.

However, this is one instance where he may not be crazy. Harden asked out, KD asked out and then Kyrie asked out. Three mega superstars in less than two years wanting to get the f*** away from the same organization? That's not a "Kyrie is crazy" issue, that's a "Brooklyn Nets are f***ed" issue.
I genuinely think both things can be true:

- Kyrie Irving is crazy and disruptive
- The Nets are badly run
 
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BB88

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Perhaps, but KD's issue was reportedly not Kyrie. It was the Nets. I wonder if Harden may have felt similarly.

& you could make a case Irving played a big part on why the Nets felt like a mess.

There was constantly some drama, constantly due to Irving
 

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