D Ryan Johnson - (2019, 31st, BUF)

[Ace]

Sounds like it. And I believe Buffalo gets compensatory pick.

It hasn’t sounded like it for two months now. All speculation has changed to expecting him to sign from local beat guys to national guys.

 

[Dirty Dog]

any chance he bolts?

There is a chance, but all indications are he signs in Buffalo

Sounds like it. And I believe Buffalo gets compensatory pick.

No it doesn't

 

[howkie]

There is a chance, but all indications are he signs in Buffalo



No it doesn't

Hawks got 1 when Hayes bolted

 

[Chainshot]

any chance he bolts?

He indicated he's interested in signing. I don't see why he wouldn't, it's just going to be after the Gophers' season is over, which is likely to be another month.

 

[GermanSpitfire]

There is a chance, but all indications are he signs in Buffalo



No it doesn't

He would give Buffalo a compensatory pick since he was selected in the first round.

It would be the 65th? overall pick in 2024 I believe.

 

[The Devilish Buffoon]

Hawks got 1 when Hayes bolted

They are saying “no it doesn’t… look like he will bolt”. Which, from what I’ve heard, is where things are leaning.

Nothing set in stone but I suspect you take Buffalo over the field in this instance

He would give Buffalo a compensatory pick since he was selected in the first round.

It would be the 65th? overall pick in 2024 I believe.

63 I believe… 31 (original selection) + 32 (picks in a round).

Most recent example I can think of is Filip Johansson, drafted 24th by MIN in 2018, going unsigned and yielding Minnesota the 56th overall in 2022 (4 years since he was in a Euro league).

 

[Favin]

It hasn’t sounded like it for two months now. All speculation has changed to expecting him to sign from local beat guys to national guys.

All speculation though. All that is known is that they will talk after season is over. I haven't seen anything that says he will or he won't.

There is a chance, but all indications are he signs in Buffalo



No it doesn't

They do actually get a pick if Johnson goes unsigned since he was a 1st rounder. Pick #63 in 2024, I believe.

 

[57special]

So, no news on him signing with Buffalo? At this point, you'd think that me might be looking to being a FA, if he hasn't already signed.

 

[Chainshot]

So, no news on him signing with Buffalo? At this point, you'd think that me might be looking to being a FA, if he hasn't already signed.

Yep, figure he's gone.

 

[57special]

Yep, figure he's gone.

Sucks.

Buffalo has all sorts of forward prospects, but sure could use a solid young D with top 4 potential.

I was sort of meh on him, but was also meh on Faber, and the latter has looked great in the NHL so far. Johnson isn't that much different, IMO. Might even be a better skater and puck handler than Faber, though a tad less good defensively.

 

[Dr Jan Itor]

Didn't see much with Johnson, to be honest. Faber was notably better all year. But I also didn't see much of anything in Lindgren either, so who knows.

 

[Chainshot]

Sucks.

Buffalo has all sorts of forward prospects, but sure could use a solid young D with top 4 potential.

I was sort of meh on him, but was also meh on Faber, and the latter has looked great in the NHL so far. Johnson isn't that much different, IMO. Might even be a better skater and puck handler than Faber, though a tad less good defensively.

I wonder if the sticking point was that they didn't offer to start him a game or two at the end of the year and he decided not burning a year was enough for him to not sign. There have been some rumbles that they think of him as a small defenseman who plays small which they already have, but they don't exactly have much in the non-waiver recallable vein either. *shrug* Maybe he thinks he's better than they do. Maybe this was the plan for him all along. I doubt he can look at a lot of teams and see an easier path to almost immediate playing time though.

 

[57special]

I wonder if the sticking point was that they didn't offer to start him a game or two at the end of the year and he decided not burning a year was enough for him to not sign. There have been some rumbles that they think of him as a small defenseman who plays small which they already have, but they don't exactly have much in the non-waiver recallable vein either. *shrug* Maybe he thinks he's better than they do. Maybe this was the plan for him all along. I doubt he can look at a lot of teams and see an easier path to almost immediate playing time though.

Oh, absolutely that's it. I mean, if I'm in his spot then why wouldn't I wait a few months so i can see what all 32 teams offer me rather than just one? Kind of surprised that they didn't do that- i mean, if he doesn't work out, what have they lost, if he's signed to a two way... hell, even to a short(two year, which would really be a one year + a couple of games)one way contract.

Maybe he just isn't considered to be ready to play in the NHL? He certainly has the wheels, and some skill. He's not a monster, but he's not tiny, either. Average size, with decent strength. Decent or better hockey IQ, I'd say, but nothing special, though occasionally he looks really good with the puck on his stick.

Water under the bridge, at this point. Will be interesting to see where he ends up.

 

[Bonin21]

I was sort of meh on him, but was also meh on Faber, and the latter has looked great in the NHL so far. Johnson isn't that much different, IMO. Might even be a better skater and puck handler than Faber, though a tad less good defensively.

Still don't understand why you were ever meh on Faber.

Johnson is nowhere near as steady and smart as Faber. Faber can be a top 4 D for 15 years.

 

[WarriorofTime]

If he doesn't sign, the Sabres would get a 2024 2nd round compensatory pick, which isn't too far from his value, so both sides may be considering options.

 

[Ace]

If he doesn't sign, the Sabres would get a 2024 2nd round compensatory pick, which isn't too far from his value, so both sides may be considering options.

Adams said they wanted him to sign, think he‘s a good prospect and made their offer. Put the ball in his court…which means one side is done considering and said yeah…we want the other side.

it’s all on him now.

 

[Petes2424]

The problem that exists for him is, there’s probably not a team who would be willing to give Buffalo something higher than the 30th pick in the 2nd round. That will be their compensation if he’s not signed.

So in all likelihood, he either signs with the Sabres, or he goes to UFA. Doubt very seriously anyone would value him higher than a late 2nd. Never say never though. Maybe a team picking 27th in the 2nd round this year, who’s struggling with D prospects, thinks they get a player closer to the NHL than prospects available to pick.

 

[SnuggaRUDE]

The problem that exists for him is, there’s probably not a team who would be willing to give Buffalo something higher than the 30th pick in the 2nd round. That will be their compensation if he’s not signed.

So in all likelihood, he either signs with the Sabres, or he goes to UFA. Doubt very seriously anyone would value him higher than a late 2nd. Never say never though. Maybe a team picking 27th in the 2nd round this year, who’s struggling with D prospects, thinks they get a player closer to the NHL than prospects available to pick.

Possibly, there seems to be an informal compensation system around the league for these cases.

Not sure how they handle players who are already compensation eligible.

 

[2014nyr]

this doesn't make sense to me. not sure why he'd balk at getting a deal done w/ buf unless he has a particular destination he will only go. for a young dman not sure there's a better team to be joining....contention window opening, young group that seems to have chemistry, at least 1 or 2 d spots available to be claimed. i mean if he goes ufa i'm sure he'd have at least a couple other options, but buf seems to have had as good a setup as a prospect could hope to walk into day 1.

 

[Zegs2sendhelp]

this doesn't make sense to me. not sure why he'd balk at getting a deal done w/ buf unless he has a particular destination he will only go. for a young dman not sure there's a better team to be joining....contention window opening, young group that seems to have chemistry, at least 1 or 2 d spots available to be claimed. i mean if he goes ufa i'm sure he'd have at least a couple other options, but buf seems to have had as good a setup as a prospect could hope to walk into day 1.

I mean you also got to live in Buffalo ….

 

[57special]

I mean you also got to live in Buffalo ….

Well, the area around Buffalo can be nice, and your dollar goes a along way. To someone who is making the minimum, LA, NY, and the like can get pretty spendy. Also, some players prefer smaller places, and feel uncomfortable in large metro areas.

I take your point in general, though. Why limit your choice to only one team, when you can see what 32 of them have to offer?

 

[Gabrielor]

I mean you also got to live in Buffalo ….

Comn...I like talking hockey with you...

That's not necessary at all.

 

[barriers]

Hey! Buffalo is a shockingly nice place to visit May through September

 

[Chainshot]

I mean you also got to live in Buffalo ….

Usually this sort of douche bag comment from some sort of "expert" who hasn't lived in a place is reserved for the NHL forum or maybe the international forum. I'm surprised to see it in the prospect forum, but here we are.

 

[Zegs2sendhelp]

Comn...I like talking hockey with you...

That's not necessary at all.

He grew up in Irvine, as someone that’s lived in upstate New York and Southern California it’s much different in weather and style of living. If he has a say in the matter, a place like Buffalo might not be on the top of his list.