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Chris Chelios
1984-85: Tom Kurvers 0.81, Craig Ludwig 0.32 (Svoboda-Robinson 0.63)
1985-86: Tom Kurvers 0.76 (28 GP together), Larry Robinson 0.38 (Svoboda-Robinson 0.65, Ludwig-Green 0.89)
1986-87: Craig Ludwig 0.55, Mike Lalor 0.20, Gaston Gingras 0.19, Petr Svoboda 0.19 (Svoboda-Robinson 0.58, Lalor-Green 0,54)
1987-88: Craig Ludwig 0.42, Petr Svoboda 0.28 (Robinson-Green 0.51, Lalor-Green 0.45, Svoboda-Robinson 0.38)
1988-89: Craig Ludwig 0.85, Petr Svoboda 0.19
1989-90: Craig Ludwig 0.72, Sylvain Lefebvre 0,28 (Svoboda-Lumme 0.73, Lefebvre-Schneider 0.67)
1990-91: Steve Konroyd 0.47, Doug Wilson 0.41, Frantisek Kucera 0.38, Trent Yawney 0.33, Dave Manson 0.24
1991-92: Steve Smith 0.78 (Kucera-Buskas 0.56)
1992-93: Steve Smith 0.61, Frantisek Kucera 0.24, Bryan Marchment 0.21 (Marchment-Russell 0.78, Kucera-Brown 0.65, Kucera-Kravchuk 0.44)
1993-94: Eric Weinrich 0.43, Keith Carney 0.41, Steve Smith 0.38 (Wilkinson-Smyth 0.74, Weinrich-Carney 0.69, Smith-Russell 0.48)
1994-95: Gary Suter 0.89, Keith Carney 0.47 (Smith-Weinrich 0.76, Smyth-Russell 0.71)
1995-96: Keith Carney 0.64, Gary Suter 0.57, Steve Smith 0.36 in 37 GP (Weinrich-Suter 0.46)
1996-97: Keith Carney 0.75 (Weinrich-Ciccone 0.55, Weinrich-Suter 0.40)
1997-98: Keith Carney 0.66, Trent Yawney 0.34, Gary Suter 0.30 (Laflamme-Suter 0.57)
1998-99 (CHI): Dave Manson 0.47, Jamie Allison 0.40 in 39 GP, Bryan Muir 0.36, Doug Zmolek 0.32
1999-00: Steve Duchesne 0.68, Jiri Fischer 0.33, Nicklas Lidstrom 0.23 (Lidstrom-Murphy 0.66)
2000-01 (24 GP): Nicklas Lidstrom 0.58
2001-02: Jiri Fischer 0.49, Nicklas Lidstrom 0.34, Maxim Kuznetsov 0.34
2002-03 and later: too old
Comments:
Did Chelios tend to play with the top forward on his team?
1984-85: Chelios-Naslund 0.33, others-Naslund 0.31
1985-86 (41 GP): Chelios-Naslund 0.55, others-Naslund 0.32
1986-87: Chelios-Naslund 0.28, others-Naslund 0.25
1987-88: Chelios-B. Smith 0.35, others-B. Smith 0.32
1988-89: Chelios-Naslund 0.36, others-Naslund 0.37
1989-90: Chelios-Richer 0.44, others-Richer 0.49
1990-91: Chelios-Roenick 0.41, others-Roenick 0.42
1991-92: Chelios-Roenick 0.46, others-Roenick 0.22
1992-93: Chelios-Roenick 0.35, others-Roenick 0.39
1993-94: Chelios-Roenick 0.43, others-Roenick 0.33
1994-95: Chelios-Roenick 0.52, others-Roenick 0.30
1995-96: Chelios-Roenick 0.60, others-Roenick 0.30
1996-97: Chelios-Amonte 0.50, others-Amonte 0.32
1997-98: Chelios-Amonte 0.44, others-Amonte 0.32 (Suter-Amonte 0.57)
1998-99: Chelios-Amonte 0.56, others-Amonte 0.29
1999-00: Chelios-Yzerman 0.34, others-Yzerman 0.28 (Lidstrom-Yzerman 0.69)
1999-00: Chelios-Fedorov 0.36, others-Fedorov 0.30
2000-01: only 24 GP, not enough to draw conclusions
2001-02: Chelios-Yzerman 0.57, others-Yzerman 0.25,
2001-02: Chelios-Fedorov 0.47, others-Fedorov 0.24
What about the top checkers?
1984-85: Chelios-Gainey 0.34, others-Gainey 0.22
1985-86 (41 GP): Chelios-Gainey 0.47, others-Gainey 0.30
1986-87: Chelios-Carbonneau 0.15, others-Carbonneau 0.28 (Lalor-Carbonneau 0.57, Green-Carbonneau 0.47)
1987-88: Chelios-Carbonneau 0.36, others-Carbonneau 0.29 (Ludwig-Carbonneau 0.48)
1988-89: Chelios-Carbonneau 0.42, others-Carbonneau 0.27
1989-90: Chelios-Carbonneau 0.50, others-Carbonneau 0.46 (Lefebvre-Carbonneau 0.64)
1990-91: Chelios-Graham 0.38, others-Graham 0.29
1991-92: Chelios-Graham 0.36, others-Graham 0.16
1992-93: Chelios-Graham 0.37, others-Graham 0.33
1993-94: Chelios-Graham 0.43, others-Graham 0.26 (Steve Smith-Graham 0.61)
1994-95: Chelios-B. Sutter 0.50, others-B.Sutter 0.39
1995-96: Chelios-B. Sutter 0.36, others-B.Sutter 0.33 (Weinrich-Sutter 0.50)
1996-97: Unsure if CHI had a top checker
1997-98: Unsure if CHI had a top checker
1998-99: Unsure if CHI had a top checker
1999-00: Chelios-Draper 0.38, others-Draper 0.19
2000-01: only 24 GP, not enough to draw conclusions
2001-02: Chelios-Draper 0.43, others-Draper 0.16
Comments:
1984-85: Tom Kurvers 0.81, Craig Ludwig 0.32 (Svoboda-Robinson 0.63)
1985-86: Tom Kurvers 0.76 (28 GP together), Larry Robinson 0.38 (Svoboda-Robinson 0.65, Ludwig-Green 0.89)
1986-87: Craig Ludwig 0.55, Mike Lalor 0.20, Gaston Gingras 0.19, Petr Svoboda 0.19 (Svoboda-Robinson 0.58, Lalor-Green 0,54)
1987-88: Craig Ludwig 0.42, Petr Svoboda 0.28 (Robinson-Green 0.51, Lalor-Green 0.45, Svoboda-Robinson 0.38)
1988-89: Craig Ludwig 0.85, Petr Svoboda 0.19
1989-90: Craig Ludwig 0.72, Sylvain Lefebvre 0,28 (Svoboda-Lumme 0.73, Lefebvre-Schneider 0.67)
1990-91: Steve Konroyd 0.47, Doug Wilson 0.41, Frantisek Kucera 0.38, Trent Yawney 0.33, Dave Manson 0.24
1991-92: Steve Smith 0.78 (Kucera-Buskas 0.56)
1992-93: Steve Smith 0.61, Frantisek Kucera 0.24, Bryan Marchment 0.21 (Marchment-Russell 0.78, Kucera-Brown 0.65, Kucera-Kravchuk 0.44)
1993-94: Eric Weinrich 0.43, Keith Carney 0.41, Steve Smith 0.38 (Wilkinson-Smyth 0.74, Weinrich-Carney 0.69, Smith-Russell 0.48)
1994-95: Gary Suter 0.89, Keith Carney 0.47 (Smith-Weinrich 0.76, Smyth-Russell 0.71)
1995-96: Keith Carney 0.64, Gary Suter 0.57, Steve Smith 0.36 in 37 GP (Weinrich-Suter 0.46)
1996-97: Keith Carney 0.75 (Weinrich-Ciccone 0.55, Weinrich-Suter 0.40)
1997-98: Keith Carney 0.66, Trent Yawney 0.34, Gary Suter 0.30 (Laflamme-Suter 0.57)
1998-99 (CHI): Dave Manson 0.47, Jamie Allison 0.40 in 39 GP, Bryan Muir 0.36, Doug Zmolek 0.32
1999-00: Steve Duchesne 0.68, Jiri Fischer 0.33, Nicklas Lidstrom 0.23 (Lidstrom-Murphy 0.66)
2000-01 (24 GP): Nicklas Lidstrom 0.58
2001-02: Jiri Fischer 0.49, Nicklas Lidstrom 0.34, Maxim Kuznetsov 0.34
2002-03 and later: too old
Comments:
- Chelios had a few seasons with full-time partners; namely Tom Kurvers, Craig Ludwig, Steve Smith, Gary Suter, and Keith Carney. Maybe Steve Duchesne too. He had some seasons where he had probably someone he played with more than anyone else, with Ludwig, Smith, Carney, and Jiri Fischer. And he had a handful of seasons where he appears to have played with anyone and everyone (87-88, 93-94, 98-99).
- His partners in his Norris trophy winning seasons: Craig Ludwig, (mostly) Steve Smith, and a combo of Keith Carney and Gary Suter. In his 2nd or 3rd place Norris seasons: one with no primary partner (90-91), one with Gary Suter, and one with (mostly) Jiri Fischer.
Did Chelios tend to play with the top forward on his team?
1984-85: Chelios-Naslund 0.33, others-Naslund 0.31
1985-86 (41 GP): Chelios-Naslund 0.55, others-Naslund 0.32
1986-87: Chelios-Naslund 0.28, others-Naslund 0.25
1987-88: Chelios-B. Smith 0.35, others-B. Smith 0.32
1988-89: Chelios-Naslund 0.36, others-Naslund 0.37
1989-90: Chelios-Richer 0.44, others-Richer 0.49
1990-91: Chelios-Roenick 0.41, others-Roenick 0.42
1991-92: Chelios-Roenick 0.46, others-Roenick 0.22
1992-93: Chelios-Roenick 0.35, others-Roenick 0.39
1993-94: Chelios-Roenick 0.43, others-Roenick 0.33
1994-95: Chelios-Roenick 0.52, others-Roenick 0.30
1995-96: Chelios-Roenick 0.60, others-Roenick 0.30
1996-97: Chelios-Amonte 0.50, others-Amonte 0.32
1997-98: Chelios-Amonte 0.44, others-Amonte 0.32 (Suter-Amonte 0.57)
1998-99: Chelios-Amonte 0.56, others-Amonte 0.29
1999-00: Chelios-Yzerman 0.34, others-Yzerman 0.28 (Lidstrom-Yzerman 0.69)
1999-00: Chelios-Fedorov 0.36, others-Fedorov 0.30
2000-01: only 24 GP, not enough to draw conclusions
2001-02: Chelios-Yzerman 0.57, others-Yzerman 0.25,
2001-02: Chelios-Fedorov 0.47, others-Fedorov 0.24
What about the top checkers?
1984-85: Chelios-Gainey 0.34, others-Gainey 0.22
1985-86 (41 GP): Chelios-Gainey 0.47, others-Gainey 0.30
1986-87: Chelios-Carbonneau 0.15, others-Carbonneau 0.28 (Lalor-Carbonneau 0.57, Green-Carbonneau 0.47)
1987-88: Chelios-Carbonneau 0.36, others-Carbonneau 0.29 (Ludwig-Carbonneau 0.48)
1988-89: Chelios-Carbonneau 0.42, others-Carbonneau 0.27
1989-90: Chelios-Carbonneau 0.50, others-Carbonneau 0.46 (Lefebvre-Carbonneau 0.64)
1990-91: Chelios-Graham 0.38, others-Graham 0.29
1991-92: Chelios-Graham 0.36, others-Graham 0.16
1992-93: Chelios-Graham 0.37, others-Graham 0.33
1993-94: Chelios-Graham 0.43, others-Graham 0.26 (Steve Smith-Graham 0.61)
1994-95: Chelios-B. Sutter 0.50, others-B.Sutter 0.39
1995-96: Chelios-B. Sutter 0.36, others-B.Sutter 0.33 (Weinrich-Sutter 0.50)
1996-97: Unsure if CHI had a top checker
1997-98: Unsure if CHI had a top checker
1998-99: Unsure if CHI had a top checker
1999-00: Chelios-Draper 0.38, others-Draper 0.19
2000-01: only 24 GP, not enough to draw conclusions
2001-02: Chelios-Draper 0.43, others-Draper 0.16
Comments:
- When Chelios played in Montreal, the answer is no, he didn't tend to play with the top forwards. He was in more of a defensive role. And with the exception of one season, he tended to play more with the top checker (Gainey or Carbonneau).
- Chelios had similar usage in his first few Chicago seasons, especially while Chicago was still a deep contender. He didn't appear to get extra ice time with Roenick, and he may have played more with Dirk Graham.
- When Chicago lost their depth and was no longer a contender, Chelios appears to have moved to more of an offensive role, playing with Roenick and Amonte to generate offence.
- In Detroit, he didn't play any special minutes with Fedorov and Yzerman in 99-00, in fact he may have played more with Draper. In 2001-02, he did play a fair bit with Yzerman and Fedorov.