Discussion in 'NHL Draft - Prospects' started by SuperSaiyanBeastmode, Apr 11, 2011.
Biggest surprise is Beaulieu at 5 imo.
European ranking, Armia at fourth is a surprise, shouldn't he be number two on that list?
I didn't see how they could get worse but oh my they got worse.
They're consitenly not in line with teams at the actual draft. So I don't know why we bother with them anymore.
The likely Calder winner is a second round pick according to CSS.
As a philosopher this makes no sense at all to me.
Were the hell is Larsson?
You are assuming all teams lists are like Bob Mackenzie's average ratings after polling a bunch of scouts. I am guessing if you look at a team's list it will look much more like CSB or Redline Report then ISS or Bob Mackenzie's average ratings one(ie certain players rated higher or lower then average)
One thing I hate about CSB is they have separate North America and Europe lists
Baertschi ahead of Strome? Beaulieu ahead of Strome and Couturier? Surprising to say the least.
I meant at the draft. I know we don't know their lists. No one can deny that.
Looks like the term reach wont be used in this years draft
I will laugh my ass off if BÃ¤rtschi is taken before Strome.
Edit; And Armia 4th... Seriously why that low?
Good luck telling anyone on HF that.
Ill laugh my ass off if Beaulieu is taken before Murphy and Siemens.
I don't think this would matter that much if the NHL and TSN didn't act like these are the best rankings.
at these rankings.
He cooled off a bit towards the end of the regular season which was to be expected since his physique wasn't "built" for SM-liiga yet. Scored two goals in the playoffs though and a good showing at the U-18 WJC could do wonders for his ranking amongst the scouts.
Beaulieu will be taken before Siemens.
I normally don't take fans to task in the least for questioning anything that a pro team or their management does but in this case I would have to. Central scouting should have enough resources to be one step ahead of the average persons mock drafts. Also in this draft year we have been told time and again after the top 4 or 5 players it is going to be a free for all as far as where teams have players ranked.
Zibanejad and Brodin are better well-rounded players, there's nothing wrong having them above Armia. All three are top-20 material IMHO, so there's not a big difference between them.
I could see Beaulieu being the second D off the board (after Larsson). Murphy is more skilled than Beaulieu, but he's also WAY smaller. And Beaulieu is WAY more skilled than Siemens. It will come down to a team's personal preference. Beaulieu's ranking is not as horrible as some are suggesting.
David Musil not bad player
Huberdeau, Beaulieu, Jurco, Oke, Tesink, Kelly, Bourret and Cameron from the Sea Dogs... I guess you have to play for the Dogs nowadays to get traded! As an example, Guillaume Cloutier played in Saint John until Christmas and he was ranked 44th. He was traded to Chicoutimi and now he is ranked in the 200th! Huberdeau, Beaulieu and Jurco deserve to be there, but I'm not sure for the rest, certainly not as high as they are.
Oke, Kelly and Cameron combined for a total of 27 points this season!
I don't think Beaulieu is all that more skilled then Siemens. Also, Beaulieu is bigger but he doesn't use his size all that well. Right now Murphy, Hamilton and Larsson are better in every aspect of the game, and Siemens is only a bit behind.
Well since they have separate scouts for each continent, they probably feel it's better to let the scouts rank the players they see instead of relying on stat sheets, other people's opinions or Youtube videos. You know, how they do it here.
The reason the lists are seperate is because the NHL clubs have asked them to provide it in that format.
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