Confirmed with Link: Coyotes facilitate Kane to NYR
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I didn't know math would be involved. 
Morgan reporting we get a 2025 3rd rounder
RABBIT
wasn’t gonna be a fan but Utalked me into it
rt
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That seems solid.
War chest strategy until you have a team on the ice proving night in and night out you no longer need said strategy.
ck26
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Most GM's will give a future pick away because there's a good chance they won't still be in a job to suffer for not having them.
I love that BA has the security / long leash to where he's thinking about the young players he'll be developing in 2027.
Arthur Fonzarelli
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$2.9 million in actual salary. 2022-2023 season=186 days with 44 days left until the regular season concludes.
44/186=0.23655913978
$2,900,000 * 0.23655913978 = $686, 021
Coyotes responsable for 25% retention which is $171,505.
Compensation at most would be a 4th round pick, likely much lower.
Well they got a 3rd. I don't know what to tell you.
Arthur Fonzarelli
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Earlier trades this week involving retention for significantly more real cash amounted to a 4th.
I can only assume this deal had a 3rd as compensation because significantly more AAV was involved.
mouser
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A 3rd, even in 2025 is more than typical for this amount of cash retention on Kane. Historically it would be a 5th.
Waiting to see the full trade details if Arizona is including some small asset to bump up the return, like Minnesota did with O'Reilly and Orlov.
There's also the wrinkle that the Ranger's 4th round picks are likely encumbered until 2026. So getting a 4th for the retention was off the table.
Waiting to see the full trade details if Arizona is including some small asset to bump up the return, like Minnesota did with O'Reilly and Orlov.
There's also the wrinkle that the Ranger's 4th round picks are likely encumbered until 2026. So getting a 4th for the retention was off the table.
Kai Yo T
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Gotta keep the pipeline full and flowing. That's how you compete for years and years. Nice acquisition
Dead Coyote
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Someone in a hockey league I'm in described us as the "Trash bags" of the NHL
Also said "Teams with a nothing roster that tank and are full of picks are garbage"
Like someone else said earlier. It’s genius when others do it. Awful when AZ does it.
RABBIT
wasn’t gonna be a fan but Utalked me into it
I look at a 3rd round pick as a much more attractive trade chip than a later round pick closer to time.
A future 3rd could be the missing piece that pushes a deal over the top to go through this summer.
A future 3rd could be the missing piece that pushes a deal over the top to go through this summer.
Freddy Sjostrom
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Nice little rebuild on these alone. BA weaponizing all the cap he can. Let the armchair GM’s talk.
Dead Coyote
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Personally, I think our roster is great for 2008
Hossa - Datsyuk - Kane
Ladd - Little
Weber - Pronger
Hossa - Datsyuk - Kane
Ladd - Little
Weber - Pronger
TheLegend
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Tom Polakis
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Sorry if I’m being dense, but what for “facilitate” mean in this context? Are the Coyotes somehow able to take on some of the Rangers cap, and we get a pick in return? And is there a precedent for taking cap without even having the player’s contract? Thanks.
That's exactly what it means, yes.
Technically, Kane was traded to us at 50% retained. We retained 50% more, and then traded him to New York. New York gave us a pick, then gave Chicago two picks. Therefore, we take on a total of 25% of Patrick Kane's cap hit, and get a pick for our troubles.
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