Speculation: Could Karlsson come back to Ottawa?

[TheNewEra]

I think SJ wants to reduce their cap and salary hits and acquire top prospects and picks for a rebuild.

For sure and if Murray and Zaitsev were sent they would go from 11.5 million to 9 million, 5 years to 2 years. Obviously they wouldnt accept the trade straight up and we would need to add picks/prospects to it but my point is that we just dont have enough bad contracts to make it work

The only other way it could work is if we get karlsson on enough retention where sending zaitsev for him is as close to neutral as possible but San Jose wouldnt do that without us sending a fortune

 

[Big Muddy]

For sure and if Murray and Zaitsev were sent they would go from 11.5 million to 9 million, 5 years to 2 years. Obviously they wouldnt accept the trade straight up and we would need to add picks/prospects to it but my point is that we just dont have enough bad contracts to make it work

The only other way it could work is if we get karlsson on enough retention where sending zaitsev for him is as close to neutral as possible but San Jose wouldnt do that without us sending a fortune

Yep. When you trade for an $11 m contract, given the current cap environment, there isn't many teams that have $11 m of available cap space. So, kind of understandable that some contracts would be going back to the Sharks.

 

[Tnuoc Alucard]

Loved EK65 when he played for Ottawa.

Made up his mind during his last Contract Year that he was going to free agency to get his "retirement contract" and knew 100% that is not going to happen in Ottawa, so pretty much orchestrated his departure from Ottawa.... and good for him, he got what he wanted, knows his career is well into the back nine, and his family, and his Children's' families are set up for life.

Right now Ottawa needs a Defensive Defense-man.... and EK65s name is no where near the top half of that list.... he turns 33 next May, and his best years are behind him.

He has all the power with his NMC, and will decide IF he gets traded, and exactly where he gets traded if he decides to move one.... doubt that Ottawa is anywhere near the top of his list.... most likely he would go to a legitimate SC contender, should he decide to leave SJ.

EK65 will return to Ottawa, in the off-season, he lives here then, and that's all.

 

[BonHoonLayneCornell]

Assuming he'd be forcing his way here specifically under this scenario and that the acquisition cost would be low, I think its fair to decline based on assuming this year is an outlier or that the cap just doesn't work, but IF he keeps this up, you're saying no to the best offensive dman in the game and one of the best players in the league as of right now.

He has a history here, so it's not an exact comparable, but if all of a sudden, say Crosby forced his way to Ottawa 3 years younger, do we say no to that? I highly doubt it. I have to assume anyone saying no just has no faith he'll keep this up as their primary reasoning against it.

 

[Cosmix]

Loved EK65 when he played for Ottawa.

Made up his mind during his last Contract Year that he was going to free agency to get his "retirement contract" and knew 100% that is not going to happen in Ottawa, so pretty much orchestrated his departure from Ottawa.... and good for him, he got what he wanted, knows his career is well into the back nine, and his family, and his Children's' families are set up for life.

Right now Ottawa needs a Defensive Defense-man.... and EK65s name is no where near the top half of that list.... he turns 33 next May, and his best years are behind him.

He has all the power with his NMC, and will decide IF he gets traded, and exactly where he gets traded if he decides to move one.... doubt that Ottawa is anywhere near the top of his list.... most likely he would go to a legitimate SC contender, should he decide to leave SJ.

EK65 will return to Ottawa, in the off-season, he lives here then, and that's all.

While I think Karlsson will not be acquired by Ottawa, I also think Karlsson would be a great addition to the current team giving us an RD of Karlsson, Zub and Hamonic. The LD would be Chabot, Sanderson and Brannstrom. Replacing Bransstrom with a big tough physical LD would be great. Perhaps that could be Kleven.

 

[Chabot84]

I would 100% trade for King K. Bring his ass back here but do it now so we can make the playoffs and go on another Conference Finals run. But he has to grow his hair back. That’s part of the deal and only if we plan to run our whole system through him.. otherwise don’t even bother.

 

[LuckyPierre]

Karlsson is currently making 2m in real dollars, and his upcoming signing bonus is only 1m. From a cashflow standpoint, it's actually a good time to make a deal for Karlsson, seeing as new ownership could pick up the tab as he becomes costlier.

And this year, Chabot is making only 4m in real dollars, while no other defensemen here are making more than 3.25m in real dollars (other than Zaitsev at 4.5m of course).

So long as retention (say 25%, so 8.6m cap) is part of the salary structure for Karlsson moving forward, and a few pieces are moved around in the offseason, it's actually doable to acquire him now without paying salary out the nose for our defense corps this year. And a note, I think if we ask for any more retention, we have to part with too much the other way.

That said, Chabot and his 8m cap goes up to 8m in real dollars next year, and 10m the year after along with a 10 team NTC. Meanwhile, although Karlsson's bonus is 1m next year, his salary will be 10.5m, which, if 25% is retained, will be in line with Chabot at 7.9m.

So, a decision would likely have to be made about going all in with heavy dollar and term investments to both, or flipping Chabot to address other needs before his trade protection is enacted.

Re-acquiring Karlsson and his NMC for 4 more years is a full blown commitment to the player, and I think that aside from the short term Zaitsev problem, having to choose between Karl and Chabby for the upcoming contention window is the major dilemma here.

 

[JackieDaytona]

I would 100% trade for King K. Bring his ass back here but do it now so we can make the playoffs and go on another Conference Finals run. But he has to grow his hair back. That’s part of the deal and only if we plan to run our whole system through him.. otherwise don’t even bother.

Need dat flow.

 

[bicboi64]

I would 100% trade for King K. Bring his ass back here but do it now so we can make the playoffs and go on another Conference Finals run. But he has to grow his hair back. That’s part of the deal and only if we plan to run our whole system through him.. otherwise don’t even bother.

Pretty much this. I don't want an ugly Karlsson with no flowing hair. Need a signed commitment that he'll grow it so we can watch it flow in the wind even if he ain't skating

 

[Stylizer1]

Loved EK65 when he played for Ottawa.

Made up his mind during his last Contract Year that he was going to free agency to get his "retirement contract" and knew 100% that is not going to happen in Ottawa, so pretty much orchestrated his departure from Ottawa.... and good for him, he got what he wanted, knows his career is well into the back nine, and his family, and his Children's' families are set up for life.

Right now Ottawa needs a Defensive Defense-man.... and EK65s name is no where near the top half of that list.... he turns 33 next May, and his best years are behind him.

He has all the power with his NMC, and will decide IF he gets traded, and exactly where he gets traded if he decides to move one.... doubt that Ottawa is anywhere near the top of his list.... most likely he would go to a legitimate SC contender, should he decide to leave SJ.

EK65 will return to Ottawa, in the off-season, he lives here then, and that's all.

Ottawa needs an Offensive Dman and teach the rest how to play D.

Karlsson is a better deal at 11m than Chabot is at 8m.

 

[AchtzehnBaby]

He will be back in Ottawa as soon as he is bought out.

 

[CorrectOpinion]

Judging by the game tonight Karlsson is still better than anyone on our roster. I guess that's why you don't auction away generational talent.

 

[Agent Zub]

he was putting our plebs in a siege. complete one man system.

they are letting him gamble more than ever and it is more entertaining and effective than all our top guys put together lol

 

[Silky Johnson]

Another flawed saviour.

Why? Him fronting a deep pocketed group would seem to be ideal. Insane marketing, passionate and committed front man and money...where are the flaws?

 

[NyQuil]

Judging by the game tonight Karlsson is still better than anyone on our roster. I guess that's why you don't auction away generational talent.

What about the previous 250 games?

 

[NyQuil]

I would 100% trade for King K. Bring his ass back here but do it now so we can make the playoffs and go on another Conference Finals run. But he has to grow his hair back. That’s part of the deal and only if we plan to run our whole system through him.. otherwise don’t even bother.

The Sharks are running their whole system through him and their record is as bad as ours.

 

[Tuna99]

Why? Him fronting a deep pocketed group would seem to be ideal. Insane marketing, passionate and committed front man and money...where are the flaws?

He said he lived in Vanier which is a town just outside Ottawa - ON JIMMY KIMMELL

Good guy and I’d be happy about it - but he’s a B.S.ing the city for the sake of a fortune, and Ottawa loves it - Because Sens nation has a saviour complex

 

[DaveMatthew]

What about the previous 250 games?

Our roster also sucked over the previous 250 games.

 

[NyQuil]

Our roster also sucked over the previous 250 games.

I don’t understand the timing of this.

I wanted to keep the 27 year old Karlsson.

Acquiring the 32 year old Karlsson with four years left on his contract makes no sense to me.

We are not contending even with EK65.

The fact that the Sharks want to use the opportunity afforded by his hot start to divest themselves of his services says it all.

Unless you are gunning for a Cup in the next two seasons, it’s not a wise move IMO.

 

[Alex1234]

The guy is a winner
Doesnt want to back for sure

 

[Micklebot]

He said he lived in Vanier which is a town just outside Ottawa - ON JIMMY KIMMELL

Good guy and I’d be happy about it - but he’s a B.S.ing the city for the sake of a fortune, and Ottawa loves it - Because Sens nation has a saviour complex

Vanier was a town just outside of Ottawa when he lived there. He's drawing on memories from when he was 13.

 

[DaveMatthew]

We are not contending even with EK65.

I agree. But In fairness, it doesn’t look like we’ll be contending over the next 4 years without Karlsson either, so at least it’d be more fun?

We’re the the Edmonton Oilers of the ‘10s. The rebuild needs a rebuild.

 

[NyQuil]

I agree. But In fairness, it doesn’t look like we’ll be contending over the next 4 years without Karlsson, so at least it’d be more fun?

We’re the the Edmonton Oilers of the ‘10s. The rebuild needs a rebuild.

I hate pulling the chute already but with this draft, a late surge in competitiveness would just be depressing this year.

 

[Tuna99]

Vanier was a town just outside of Ottawa when he lived there. He's drawing on memories from when he was 13.

Dude no. Vanier is not outside Ottawa. You can see Parliment Hill from Montreal road. The Prime Minister lives across the road from Vanier. Perth is outside Ottawa.

 

[NyQuil]

Dude no. Vanier is not outside Ottawa. You can see Parliment Hill from Montreal road. The Prime Minister lives across the road from Vanier. Perth is outside Ottawa.

Vanier was a separate city until amalgamated in 2001.

You're reaching.