OT: Coronavirus XX : Here Comes Fall

[WaitingForUser]

Look to the cookie Elaine look to the cookie classic.

 

[GretzkytoKurri9917]

I remember laughing when Jerry says to Elaine after eating the black and white Cookie that he feels sick.

Elaine: Not getting along?

 

[GretzkytoKurri9917]

https://www.cbc.ca/news/health/covid19-pandemic-pew-countries-1.5702522
Pandemic has brought Canadians together, pushed Americans apart, poll suggests

 

[BlueCheeseWithWings]

https://www.cbc.ca/news/health/covid19-pandemic-pew-countries-1.5702522
Pandemic has brought Canadians together, pushed Americans apart, poll suggests

The media is to blame.

 

[rboomercat90]

Wow. The 20th thread. Where has the time gone?

 

[GretzkytoKurri9917]

Wow. The 20th thread. Where has the time gone?

By fast?

 

[Bryanbryoil]

The various accounts came from Trump, Bolsonaro and other untrustworthy sources. There was little if any peer-reviewed research that was in support of it. Even that study with the police (IIRC?) in India that was discussed here a while ago showed absolutely nothing of statistical significance.

From the article:
“There is already a great number of studies that have evaluated hydroxychloroquine alone or in combination and it seems unlikely at this stage that any efficacy will ever emerge” wrote the study's authors in the journal Clinical Microbiology and Infection. “Our results suggest that there is no need for further studies evaluating these molecules”.

You can try adding zinc, potassium, pepto bismol, or dirt to the concoction to keep testing, but the authors here have indicated that there is no need for further testing.

How about adding pangolin and bat to the concoction? The hair of the dog that bit you?

 

[joestevens29]

I remember laughing when Jerry says to Elaine after eating the black and white Cookie that he feels sick.

Elaine: Not getting along?

Vomit free since 93

I believe

 

[joestevens29]

The media is to blame.

Our media wasn't much better. I had to quit listening to trump and tam. I was losing my mind with their stupidity.

Kenney and Hinshaw were a lot better

 

[Dorian2]

The media is to blame.

Not solely but they do share a part for sure.

 

[BlueCheeseWithWings]

Not solely but they do share a part for sure.

Social media is the other culprit.

 

[GretzkytoKurri9917]

Vomit free since 93

I believe

92.

 

[Dorian2]

Social media is the other culprit.

Only to those who don't think for themselves.

 

[Drivesaitl]

Only to those who don't think for themselves.

This is like saying that nonconscious manipulation does not exist. Don't underestimate the powers, impact, and indepth engineering that is involved in formulating preferences, opinions, wants, desires.

The subliminal influence can be powerful.



This is just one of the foremost thinkers analyzing how tech and media have been studying us and using feedback data to know more and more how to social engineer public opinions. Bombard people with enough of this and it can shape minds, culture, what occurs.

 

[joestevens29]

92.

In Game Night, an upset Marshall points out that Ted lied about being "vomit-free since '93", after Ted tells the "Story of the Re-Return" and how he threw up on Robin's doormat after the events of the Pilot. ... Ted, Marshall, and Lily discover that Barney spent the night in their tub.

I had my shows mixed up

 

[Dorian2]

This is like saying that nonconscious manipulation does not exist. Don't underestimate the powers, impact, and indepth engineering that is involved in formulating preferences, opinions, wants, desires.

The subliminal influence can be powerful.



This is just one of the foremost thinkers analyzing how tech and media have been studying us and using feedback data to know more and more how to social engineer public opinions. Bombard people with enough of this and it can shape minds, culture, what occurs.

Not in the context I meant it in it doesn't. You're talking about something else entirely than what I'm referring to. I'm simply talking about critical thinking and making well informed decisions.

 

[Drivesaitl]

Not in the context I meant it in it doesn't. You're talking about something else entirely than what I'm referring to. I'm simply talking about critical thinking and making well informed decisions.

I sense that, and thanks for the response, but one can't overlook how much influence in social media is subconscious, directive, and intends to be. That has as its goal to manipulate the consumer, to activate pleasure, joy, while collecting data on how to further shape that joy. Studies have been done on how social media redirect even our neurotransmitters, how it impacts dopamine, serotonin levels and interacts with consumer like any addiction would.

heh, way more than a hockey board topic I realize. Thanks for humoring it, look at the video more if interested.

 

[CycloneSweep]

Not in the context I meant it in it doesn't. You're talking about something else entirely than what I'm referring to. I'm simply talking about critical thinking and making well informed decisions.

A lot of people are unable to think critically, see one narrative and run with it. Or they are told by other people "if you think like me, you are a critical thinker" and they run with that. The unfortunate truth of the world is I'd say a good portion of people aren't able to critically think and make well informed decisions.

 

[Dorian2]

A lot of people are unable to think critically, see one narrative and run with it. Or they are told by other people "if you think like me, you are a critical thinker" and they run with that. The unfortunate truth of the world is I'd say a good portion of people aren't able to critically think and make well informed decisions.

That's pretty much what I'm talking about. Surveillance capitalism is a totally different subject and isn't in the scope of my original post to bluecheese.

 

[CycloneSweep]

That's pretty much what I'm talking about. Surveillance capitalism is a totally different subject and isn't in the scope of my original post to bluecheese.

I wasn't even talking about surveillance capitalism. I am talking about the general "people are intelligent and can think for themselves" thing I can seeing all over the place. Fact of life is most people are not all that intelligent and even if they can think for themselves, they don't.

I am not going to turn this political, just using the following as an example. Look at how many people will always vote for their political party the "I always voted for blank I'll always vote for blank", no matter the policy or anything. Look at movie reviews and all that. People want to be told what to believe, what to do and how to act. Most people don't seem to have the ability or want to think for themselves.

Even look at coronavirus. Someone once told people masks are bad or against something and no matter what that's what they hold onto cause their guy told them that and that's their belief for life.

I mean it also the phenomenon of the first thing someone hears about something is the truth, it's their reality no matter any evidence. Society as a whole is easy to manipulate. First person to implant a narrative wins in those peoples minds.

Look at coronavirus discourse.
You have people literally still saying "it's just the cold man" cause people in the early days were told that's how bad it was. Even with the evidence of the contrary they still believe that.

Or the people who still think we should be completely closed and should of never opened cause they were once told that the only way to stop it is to stay hidden till it's all gone. Even though it came out quick that the whole point was to just reduce the load on hospitals.

Narratives are very uneasily broken and most people refuse to change their minds on things. Critical thinking is almost non existent.

Edit: Hell people who learn something and change their minds are often called out for flip flopping or being weak. Literally people who employ critical thinking and can change their minds thru learning and discussion are shit on for not staying "consistent". People who once thought a certain way are apparently not allowed to think different.

Edit edit: Hell we are all guilty of it at times, myself included.

Edit the third: The danger of social media, is instead of people being able to learn from those around them, people now find their little corners and group of like minded individuals that reinforce their beliefs.

 

[Dorian2]

I wasn't even talking about surveillance capitalism. I am talking about the general "people are intelligent and can think for themselves" thing I can seeing all over the place. Fact of life is most people are not all that intelligent and even if they can think for themselves, they don't.

I am not going to turn this political, just using the following as an example. Look at how many people will always vote for their political party the "I always voted for blank I'll always vote for blank", no matter the policy or anything. Look at movie reviews and all that. People want to be told what to believe, what to do and how to act. Most people don't seem to have the ability or want to think for themselves.

Even look at coronavirus. Someone once told people masks are bad or against something and no matter what that's what they hold onto cause their guy told them that and that's their belief for life.

I mean it also the phenomenon of the first thing someone hears about something is the truth, it's their reality no matter any evidence. Society as a whole is easy to manipulate. First person to implant a narrative wins in those peoples minds.

Look at coronavirus discourse.
You have people literally still saying "it's just the cold man" cause people in the early days were told that's how bad it was. Even with the evidence of the contrary they still believe that.

Or the people who still think we should be completely closed and should of never opened cause they were once told that the only way to stop it is to stay hidden till it's all gone. Even though it came out quick that the whole point was to just reduce the load on hospitals.

Narratives are very uneasily broken and most people refuse to change their minds on things. Critical thinking is almost non existent.

Edit: Hell people who learn something and change their minds are often called out for flip flopping or being weak. Literally people who employ critical thinking and can change their minds thru learning and discussion are shit on for not staying "consistent". People who once thought a certain way are apparently not allowed to think different.

Edit edit: Hell we are all guilty of it at times, myself included.

lol. I think you misunderstood my post to you. I was agreeing with you on the critical thinking. I was referring to surveillance capitalism because drivesaitl made it a point in my response to bluecheese.

 

[Drivesaitl]

That's pretty much what I'm talking about. Surveillance capitalism is a totally different subject and isn't in the scope of my original post to bluecheese.

Yet Bluecheese would be well aware of the constructs of social media and how it is designed to build addiction, to program, to hone preferences, opinion, and thus mentioned as a harmful agent. I mean its large part of why social media exists, was designed, and gathering data for exploitation.

I mean facebook doesn't exist so we can all smile and take pictures. Unfortunately its much darker than that and people are being completely duped into using these immersive addiction platforms.

like I am for posting here..

Or being an Oiler fan

addicts, all..heh

 

[CycloneSweep]

lol. I think you misunderstood my post to you. I was agreeing with you on the critical thinking. I was referring to surveillance capitalism because drivesaitl made it a point to me, which didn't have anything to do with my original post at all.

Fair enough. My post was more ranty than anything and getting that out there and not specifically directed at you either. Just a large rambly thought I have had recently.

 

[Drivesaitl]

lol. I think you misunderstood my post to you. I was agreeing with you on the critical thinking. I was referring to surveillance capitalism because drivesaitl made it a point in my response to bluecheese.

Maybe not your post. But it has everything to do with the social media cited. Which was my point.

To wit if people were really choosing to think for themselves, and alert to what social media actually was, and that its not social, nobody would be on it..

 

[Stoneman89]

Only to those who don't think for themselves.

Seems to me there are a lot of those out there, and they swallow everything they're told.