Coronavirus in Football
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Oh, you're not so special.
In the UK there's a section of society hell-bent on copying that model. And if they can think of a way of taking it to further extremes, they'll be ecstatic to do so.
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I mean, trying not to go all conspiracy theorist but there are a lot of reasons why global situations such as war or pandemics would be very beneficial to people in power or whom are extremely wealthy.
V for Vendetta is fiction but will it always be?
V for Vendetta is fiction but will it always be?
Burnley chairman claims they will go bust if they don’t finish the season, what’s gonna happen to 95% of the clubs around the world then who don’t have the financial windfall of the EPL
Of course he can be crying wolf as well in order to cut wages
Of course he can be crying wolf as well in order to cut wages
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It's a ridiculous notion. If you're agreeing you're at a point in the pandemic where you can't safely have fans in the stands, how could anyone possibly think it would be safe enough for the players and support staff required to travel to put these matches on?
Uncertainty freaks people out and that's fine, but you can't have conversations about the "after" when you don't even know what the stage of the "during" you're in.
Uncertainty freaks people out and that's fine, but you can't have conversations about the "after" when you don't even know what the stage of the "during" you're in.
I'd be amazed to learn if there was ever a war fought that didn't arise because one ruling class or other thought they'd profit from it directly, whether in terms of wealth or power.
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You can form contingency plans. Not least when the expiration of the UK's general lockdown is in theory less than a fortnight away.
By way of comparison, the genesis of the UK's National Health Service can be traced to a Parliamentary committee that was launched in June 1941 - twelve days before the Germans invaded the Soviet Union, months in advance of Pearl Harbor.
Again, we understand that most LFC fans would be behind the resumption of the season. It just comes off as crass to worry about it now but you do you I guess as long as LFC gets that first Premiership title on the back of 6 figure deaths worldwide
Contingency planning is of course completely normal. It's fine to put it to paper and have an ideal scenario in mind. I just don't understand the thinking that goes into, "Well, we agree that even in our ideal start-up scenario in June the situation wouldn't be safe enough for fans, but I'm SURE we can keep all players and support staff completely healthy." The hubris that goes into that is astounding.
I've also not seen that Mirror article repeated in any other reputable sources, so not sure how much stock to place in that.
Then perhaps you'll heed a Newcastle United fan - it is simple fact that as I write these words the lockdown is scheduled to end on 14 April. That's nine days away, not some far-flung future. The government offers only vague statements of what will follow. But a gradual easing of restrictions is not impossible - and that may include a scenario that allows football to return far sooner than we think.
Liz Windsor was on the telly tonight, addressing the UK. I didn't watch, but apparently she said, "We will succeed".
An interesting phrase that, because it raises a vital point in this matter - how do we define "success"? Anyone posting around here care to have a go? Someone is going to have to - and if politicians aren't transparent about the endgame, the odds are it will be taken out of their hands by action from a confused, demoralised public - and possibly through certain business/media interests that politicians live in dread of offending throwing around their weight.
I've read that the average period of time that elapses between infection with Covid-19 and death is 23 days. How accurate that is, who knows? But if it is accurate, and the proposed 21-day lockdown endures, by then we should have seen a reduction in new infections, and deaths should begin to drop. Bear in mind that even before the official lockdown, a lot of people (myself included) were already either in quarantine or self-isolation.
One final thought for tonight. A UK journalist named Trevor Kavanagh criticised the lockdown policy a few days back. That was a potentially notable intervention, because the organ he used was a Rupert Murdoch publication. Murdoch never personally enters the fray unless he's confident of victory, but make no mistake - if His Master's Voice is definitively raised against the lockdown, you can bet your life it will end, and fast.
There's a big dose of wishful thinking, to be sure. On the other hand, a game involves two 18-man squads, a few officials, a few staff on each side. More staff are necessary to run a club during the week.
But it's a lot more controllable number than all those people plus a crowd of anywhere between 14 and 75 thousand, or whatever.
I wonder whether the EPL owners think they can realise a mass testing programme that allows them to pull this off. Given the least hint of success they'd presumably throw money at it, given the financial stakes.
There will also be a need to have EMS on site and that is taking away resources from hospitals that need them.
And who's to say players will agree to play?
They still need to travel, not to mention security, grounds crews, broadcast teams, etc. It's not as straightforward as it sounds. To phisherman's point, all this drama about players taking pay cuts definitely seems to have made them more combative. Wouldn't be surprised if there was a lot of pushback to this plan.
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I especially like the 'winning the title on the back of a six figure death toll' as though Liverpool were marauding around Europe slaying everyone in a literal sense.
As has been mentioned before. Liverpool will win the title regardless, and I don't care about that anyway since if the season were voided it really doesn't actually change what they've done over the last year and a half. I don't care about starting up the season because of Liverpool's sake. We're not going to be on lockdown for a year and a half, sorry, and I miss soccer so if that's their plan and they agree to it I'm behind it.
