Controversial goal by Crosby

[The Lunatic Fridge]

Whens the last time this happened?
well...

 

[Roman Yoshi]

If that’s a good goal, how is Sisson’s goal from the playoffs not a goal?

The NHL’s miscarriage of justice continues.

 

[Number8]

It's not a controversial goal if you actually know the rules for why the goal counted. This is the rule:

“The video review process shall be permitted to assist the Referees in determining the legitimacy of all potential goals (e.g. to ensure they are “good hockey goals”). For example (but not limited to), pucks that enter the net by going through the net meshing, pucks that enter the net from underneath the net frame, pucks that hit the spectator netting prior to being directed immediately into the goal, pucks that enter the net undetected by the Referee, etc. This would also include situations whereby the Referee stops play or is in the process of stopping the play because he has lost sight of the puck and it is subsequently determined by video review that the puck crosses (or has crossed) the goal line and enters the net as the culmination of a continuous play where the result was unaffected by the whistle (i.e., the timing of the whistle was irrelevant to the puck entering the net at the end of a continuous play).”

This goal counted because the puck was on its way into the net when the whistle was blown, so blowing the whistle early didn't impact whether the goal was scored or not. It's the same concept for when a goal counts when the net is knocked off. If a puck is going in the net and the net gets knocked off while the puck is already on its trajectory into the net, it's a good goal.

Why the Sissons goal didn't count? This rule only applies if the puck is already on a trajectory going into the net when the whistle is blown. Sissons scored after the play was blown dead.

You are wrong. Whistle clearly blows before Crosby even swings stick to knock puck. NBC replay with audio is clear as it gets, whistled dead before puck is even struck -- let alone enters goal.

 

[Tom Hanks]

If that’s a good goal, how is Sisson’s goal from the playoffs not a goal?

The NHL’s miscarriage of justice continues.

Sisson’s didn’t score a goal since he touched the puck after the whistle went so the play is dead (he was even behind the D man when the whistle went).

 

[Barrie22]

If that’s a good goal, how is Sisson’s goal from the playoffs not a goal?

The NHL’s miscarriage of justice continues.

Been answered multiple times already in this thread.

Crosby goal whistle came after crosby shot the puck and if there was even a better video of it potentially the puck was already in the net before the whistle had gone.

Sissons goal the shot came after the whistle happened.

 

[PatriceBergeronFan]

Goal goes in before whistle blows. Goalie does not have control of the puck. Good goal.

This intent to blow the whistle rule has 100% gone the other way for the entire duration of the history of the league. For Crosby, they were willing to review the play that otherwise has never been reviewable. Very odd to create this precedence in a regular season game.

 

[Number8]

Been answered multiple times already in this thread.

Crosby goal whistle came after crosby shot the puck and if there was even a better video of it potentially the puck was already in the net before the whistle had gone.

Sissons goal the shot came after the whistle happened.

As did Crosby's "goal".


Please everyone watch this NBC feed starting at 6 minute mark.

It's not about issue of "intent" - the whistle blows BEFORE Crosby hits puck with stick. In video watch nothing but Crosby's stick and listen for whistle. It's not even questionable.

 

[triggrman]

Been answered multiple times already in this thread.

Crosby goal whistle came after crosby shot the puck and if there was even a better video of it potentially the puck was already in the net before the whistle had gone.

Sissons goal the shot came after the whistle happened.

You mean after they intended to blow the whislte.

 

[Number8]

You mean after they intended to blow the whislte.

He apparently means before the ref intended to blow the whistle, engaged his motor neurons to move his arm, and completed the whole biomechanical transaction and made his whistle tweet.

And he's wrong on all of it.

NBC two posts above -- at about 6:15 minute mark --shows that whistle blew before Crosby even started first swing of stick -- the one he missed on.

Bottom line? Whistle blew before Crosby made contact with puck. NHL blew it badly and should own it.

 

[Pensfan891]

Intent to blow quick whistle, counts

Game 6 Nashville - Intent to blow quick whistle, doesn't count

#CrosbyCheats

 

[nhlfan9191]

As did Crosby's "goal".


Please everyone watch this NBC feed starting at 6 minute mark.

It's not about issue of "intent" - the whistle blows BEFORE Crosby hits puck with stick. In video watch nothing but Crosby's stick and listen for whistle. It's not even questionable.

This video makes it without a shadow of a doubt it shouldn’t have counted. Questionable plays going the Pens way is getting a little ridiculous.

 

[Number8]

#CrosbyCheats

Zero issue with Crosby. If he's my guy I want him doing EXACTLY what he did and going hard until the whistle and even a little bit after.....

Issue is with the NHL. It "looks" like they call it one way for some and one way for others. Doesn't matter if that's fact or not -- perception can be realty when you've got 30 plus teams with 30 plus sets of fans.

On ice call mistakes? They happen. Endless video replays coming up with wrong/conflicting rulings cannot happen.

League should own up to mistake. If not perception becomes not just reality, but fact.

 

[Barrie22]

As did Crosby's "goal".


Please everyone watch this NBC feed starting at 6 minute mark.

It's not about issue of "intent" - the whistle blows BEFORE Crosby hits puck with stick. In video watch nothing but Crosby's stick and listen for whistle. It's not even questionable.

And if you watch the 1st video posted you see the puck moving before the whistle is blown.

One video was at actual speed and the other was in slow motion.

In the 1st video you see the puck moving before the whistle. The other you hear the whistle before the puck even falls to the goalies chest.

 

[Number8]

And if you watch the 1st video posted you see the puck moving before the whistle is blown.

One video was at actual speed and the other was in slow motion.

In the 1st video you see the puck moving before the whistle. The other you hear the whistle before the puck even falls to the goalies chest.

And........ given the ruling on ice was no goal???

Yes, when there is NOT complete confirmation of a wrong call on ice, the call on ice stands.

No one can dispute the NBC feed shows whistle blow before Crosby struck puck with his stick. Ergo --- call on ice stands.

Refs got it right on ice (maybe they blew whistle early -- that's a totally separate issue). League over ruled and given their stance in Game 6 appear to have the rule "whatever interpretation helps Pens is one we're going with".

That may seem over the top, but in absence of transparency, consistency, and honesty -- the NHL looks arrogantly inept or corrupt. Neither is a good look.

 

[Beauner]

This thread has provided many laughs, so thanks for that HF

 

[BruinLVGA]

It's not a controversial goal if you actually know the rules for why the goal counted. This is the rule:

“The video review process shall be permitted to assist the Referees in determining the legitimacy of all potential goals (e.g. to ensure they are “good hockey goals”). For example (but not limited to), pucks that enter the net by going through the net meshing, pucks that enter the net from underneath the net frame, pucks that hit the spectator netting prior to being directed immediately into the goal, pucks that enter the net undetected by the Referee, etc. This would also include situations whereby the Referee stops play or is in the process of stopping the play because he has lost sight of the puck and it is subsequently determined by video review that the puck crosses (or has crossed) the goal line and enters the net as the culmination of a continuous play where the result was unaffected by the whistle (i.e., the timing of the whistle was irrelevant to the puck entering the net at the end of a continuous play).”

This goal counted because the puck was on its way into the net when the whistle was blown, so blowing the whistle early didn't impact whether the goal was scored or not. It's the same concept for when a goal counts when the net is knocked off. If a puck is going in the net and the net gets knocked off while the puck is already on its trajectory into the net, it's a good goal.

Why the Sissons goal didn't count? This rule only applies if the puck is already on a trajectory going into the net when the whistle is blown. Sissons scored after the play was blown dead.

It should have not counted because Crosby actually hacks Khudobin's right arm right at the moment when Khudobin is trying to play the puck. Blatant goalie interference.

But we still beat you anyway, so that's all good. For the moment, at least.

 

[Not Sure]

similar play last night in Buffalo vs Edmonton where the puck was under goalie on its way in net when whistle went. Kane was the one chopping away, the play wasn't reviewable, funny how that works.

 

[BruinLVGA]

69.7 Rebounds and Loose Pucks - In a rebound situation, or where a
goalkeeper and attacking player(s) are simultaneously attempting to
play a loose puck, whether inside or outside the crease, incidental contact with the goalkeeper will be permitted, and any goal that is
scored as a result thereof will be allowed.

For anyone wondering why it wasn't GI

So, now slashing a goalie's arm is filed under "incidental contact"? I guess, we must consider ourselves lucky that Crosby didn't shove the stick up Khudobin's behind and wave him around like a flag, in order to "score" the "goal"...

 

[Rhaegar Targaryen]

It’s the Penguins, get used to it

 

[Ivan13]

Never seen anything like that. I'm not sure what to think about that.

It's a crock, he clobbered the goalie on the hand with his stick. It's freaking absurd this counted, just unreal.

 

[BruinLVGA]

He apparently means before the ref intended to blow the whistle, engaged his motor neurons to move his arm, and completed the whole biomechanical transaction and made his whistle tweet.

And he's wrong on all of it.

NBC two posts above -- at about 6:15 minute mark --shows that whistle blew before Crosby even started first swing of stick -- the one he missed on.

Bottom line? Whistle blew before Crosby made contact with puck. NHL blew it badly and should own it.

I watched it as you said and it's clearly the way you describe it. Crosby hasn't even started to swing his stick and the whistle is blown.

 

[PatriceBergeronFan]

Goal goes in before whistle blows. Goalie does not have control of the puck. Good goal.

The puck does not at all go in prior to the whistle. Watch it a few more times....

 

[PatriceBergeronFan]

Zero issue with Crosby. If he's my guy I want him doing EXACTLY what he did and going hard until the whistle and even a little bit after.....

Issue is with the NHL. It "looks" like they call it one way for some and one way for others. Doesn't matter if that's fact or not -- perception can be realty when you've got 30 plus teams with 30 plus sets of fans.

On ice call mistakes? They happen. Endless video replays coming up with wrong/conflicting rulings cannot happen.

League should own up to mistake. If not perception becomes not just reality, but fact.

They spent the entire 3rd period with desperate rule explanations knowing how incompetent they look.

 

[MetalheadPenguinsFan]

It’s the Penguins, get used to it

That is so 2005.....

 

[Roman Yoshi]

Been answered multiple times already in this thread.

Crosby goal whistle came after crosby shot the puck and if there was even a better video of it potentially the puck was already in the net before the whistle had gone.

Sissons goal the shot came after the whistle happened.

Bro. You need to go back and listen to the audio cause you are 100% wrong.