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[WTFMAN99]

MAPLE LEAFS NOTES: Good and bad, Auston Matthews saw it all in October

Auston Matthews was on an impossible goal pace to start October, but he and linemate Mitch Marner were below par as the month ended.

torontosun.com

So some progress...I know his head was bad before we got him but now a bad knee injury...yikes.

 

[TMLAM34]

I like Timmins but you can’t rely on him at all with his injury history. The hit he received to get his latest injury was almost nothing.

 

[Squiffy]

https://thehockeynews.com/nhl/toronto-maple-leafs/latest-news/conor-timmins-a-ways-away-from-playing-as-maple-leafs-defenseman-continues-recovery-from-lower-body-injury

Little deeper look at Timmins injury timeline, but mostly same info as above. Still some weeks to go.

 

[ACC1224]

Was fined for the cross check on Tanev last night.

Toronto Maple Leaf player hit with max fine after cross-checking Kraken forward

A Maple Leaf player has been fined the maximum allowable amount after he cross-checked a player on the Kraken during Sunday night's game in Seattle .

www.cp24.com

 

[D00bis]

Was fined for the cross check on Tanev last night.

Toronto Maple Leaf player hit with max fine after cross-checking Kraken forward

A Maple Leaf player has been fined the maximum allowable amount after he cross-checked a player on the Kraken during Sunday night's game in Seattle .

www.cp24.com

at least hes using that big frame for something other then pizzas up the middle haha

 

[Stephen]

Interesting he brought the physicality last night. That usually doesn’t come out in his game from what we’ve seen.

 

[Darcy Tucker]

Interesting he brought the physicality last night. That usually doesn’t come out in his game from what we’ve seen.

If he's willing to play rough to stay in the lineup that's what we need. Lagesson was bringing the sandpaper before. They need to give other teams hell at every opportunity it makes a difference.

 

[LeafSteel]

Goon.

 

[ACC1224]

Goon.

It hardly seemed worthy of a fine, I thought.

 

[Mr_Fun]

It hardly seemed worthy of a fine, I thought.

Seems like it should at least be a major to warrant a fine. Oh well....

 

[LeafsOHLRangers98]

Was fined for the cross check on Tanev last night.

Toronto Maple Leaf player hit with max fine after cross-checking Kraken forward

A Maple Leaf player has been fined the maximum allowable amount after he cross-checked a player on the Kraken during Sunday night's game in Seattle .

www.cp24.com

A fine for this but nothing when Matthews got smoked. Rightt.

 

[LeafSteel]

It hardly seemed worthy of a fine, I thought.

DOPS is a joke.

From my view, Tanev was going way too fast, lost control, and ran out of real estate.

Avoiding those kinds of scenarios that forwards put themselves in is exactly why no touch icing was implemented.

I would put Tanev easily 95% at fault for what happened.

 

[ACC1224]

A fine for this but nothing when Matthews got smoked. Rightt.

I must have missed it, what happened to Matthews?

 

[rumman]

If he's willing to play rough to stay in the lineup that's what we need. Lagesson was bringing the sandpaper before. They need to give other teams hell at every opportunity it makes a difference.

I’d take Lagesson over Timmins everyday and twice on Sunday. Timmins is good on the offensive side of the puck, defensively not so much………

 

[Fogelhund]

I’d take Lagesson over Timmins everyday and twice on Sunday. Timmins is good on the offensive side of the puck, defensively not so much………

Timmins 2.3 GA/60
Lagesson 2.1 GA/60

Expected Goals on ice %
Timmins 61.2 % (Best on Team)
Lagesson 46.3% (Only Klingberg was worse out of the D)

On Ice Goals %
Timmins 65% (Best on Team)
Lagesson 47.4% (Only Klingberg was worse out of the D)

Corsi
Timmins 55% (Best on Team)
Lagesson 48% (Worst D on Team)

Timmins GF/60 4.0 (Best D on Team)
Lagesson GF/60 2.1 (Second worst D on team)

I think I'd take the guy who has the better on ice results personally, I'm not sure what you are looking at, and seeing exactly.

 

[LeafParade]

I kind of want to throw Timmins on the 1st pair instead of Brodie just to see what happens to his advanced stats.

 

[DarkKnight]

I have to be honest, the fact Timmins has good advanced stats make me question their contextual relevance, because he is just awful defensively, an adventure every play, horrible recognition and easily loses battles. Is it because who Keefe shelters him with, zone starts, because i just don’t see it at all. To me he’s a cautionary tale on advanced stats, or perhaps an outlier, because that’s some horrible d there.

 

[Fogelhund]

I have to be honest, the fact Timmins has good advanced stats make me question their contextual relevance, because he is just awful defensively, an adventure every play, horrible recognition and easily loses battles. Is it because who Keefe shelters him with, zone starts, because i just don’t see it at all. To me he’s a cautionary tale on advanced stats, or perhaps an outlier, because that’s some horrible d there.

On Ice Goals % is advanced stats? I mean literally, we score a lot more when he's on the ice, than we get scored against... and that really is what counts.

Both Lagesson and Timmins start in the D zone about 7% of the time. Both start about 70% of the time, on the fly shifts....

 

[ULF_55]

If they are willing to make it uncomfortable they should be in the line-up.

2.6mm for dirty kleenex. Best deal on the team.

Benoit
Lagesson
Timmins

 

[Roo]

I have to be honest, the fact Timmins has good advanced stats make me question their contextual relevance, because he is just awful defensively, an adventure every play, horrible recognition and easily loses battles. Is it because who Keefe shelters him with, zone starts, because i just don’t see it at all. To me he’s a cautionary tale on advanced stats, or perhaps an outlier, because that’s some horrible d there.

Basing it purely on this season, yes. But you have to remember he missed the start due to injury and then missed games for bad mistakes. Young players need time to play to get better. He was solid in limited minutes last year, I suspect he’ll improve with time.

 

[rumman]

I kind of want to throw Timmins on the 1st pair instead of Brodie just to see what happens to his advanced stats.

He’d look as out of place as Brodie does, but less money so there’s that………

 

[LeafParade]

I have to be honest, the fact Timmins has good advanced stats make me question their contextual relevance, because he is just awful defensively, an adventure every play, horrible recognition and easily loses battles. Is it because who Keefe shelters him with, zone starts, because i just don’t see it at all. To me he’s a cautionary tale on advanced stats, or perhaps an outlier, because that’s some horrible d there.

I don't think he has ever played higher than the 3rd pair, so most of those minutes are fairly sheltered.

He’d look as out of place as Brodie does, but less money so there’s that………

But his advanced stats would make more sense to me then.

 

[rumman]

I have to be honest, the fact Timmins has good advanced stats make me question their contextual relevance, because he is just awful defensively, an adventure every play, horrible recognition and easily loses battles. Is it because who Keefe shelters him with, zone starts, because i just don’t see it at all. To me he’s a cautionary tale on advanced stats, or perhaps an outlier, because that’s some horrible d there.

Winner winner chicken dinner…….

 

[Buds17]

I kind of want to throw Timmins on the 1st pair instead of Brodie just to see what happens to his advanced stats.

That isn't likely to do much good for just about any of his stats!

 

[DarkKnight]

Basing it purely on this season, yes. But you have to remember he missed the start due to injury and then missed games for bad mistakes. Young players need time to play to get better. He was solid in limited minutes last year, I suspect he’ll improve with time.

I really liked him when he first came up last year, great first pass and good offensive vision. He really tailed off though, you started to see the defensively liabilities and an inability to process quick coverages. I’m not giving up on him, but he doesnt look like an NHL D man to me, his offence is completely offset by his defensive deficiencies. I’m willing to change my mind, just don’t see it so far.