Player Discussion Connor McDavid Part VI: Hart, Ross and Lindsay Winner

[Ryan Michaels]

I actually can't believe that got published, and I say that fully aware of our media's usual caliber, it's not a high bar but wow.

 

[StreetHawk]

Oilers general manager not concerned with Connor McDavid’s knee

He’s still rehabbing the knee nearly 5 months later. Hopefully this was the right decision for his recovery.

But man, if this occurred back in October he likely would have missed the rest of the season. 60 plus game injury.

 

[Ritchie Valens]

Here are some compete quotes. It should shed some light on the biases of that article.

On the Milan Lucic-for-James Neal trade: “It’s obviously disappointing to see a good friend in Looch go. He’s someone I got close with on the team. Great guy. Great family as well. I’m definitely going to miss them. Nealer’s got a lot of upside. He’s a guy who’s won a lot in this league, he’s scored a lot in this league. A down year last year, but he’s training up at Gary’s and he’s working as hard as I’ve ever seen him work. So it’s good to see.”''

On watching the Blues’ championship run: “They go from last to winning the Cup. It says a lot about them — it says a lot about our league. Turnarounds can happen quick, so that’s what we’re hoping for.”

“I’ve known Connor for a long time, and he’s a very quiet, hardworking, passionate kid,” Max Domi said.
“He’s one of the best hockey players in the world for a reason — and I know for a fact he’s been working his ass off all summer. He’s going to have an unbelievable year.”

There was this one about Holland too:

“My initial reaction was excitement. He’s a guy who’s been in the league a long time. He’s put together some great teams, those Detroit dynasties, so I was definitely excited by it.”

McDavid is going to give Holland time to build a winner around him.

 

[guymez]

I rarely read anything about the Oilers unless it's from a trusted media guy or from Edmonton. When has anyone outside of Edmonton ever really said anything nice about the Oilers? It's just a waste of time and something that causes unnecessary stress. We have enough of that just watching our team.

Exactly....especially the last sentence.

Historically we have cared too much about what others think of the team and the city.
It makes Oilers fans an easy mark because of this hyper-reactiveness. It fuels these inflammatory articles IMO.
If there is no reaction that doesnt mean that we dont care about the team or the city...it just means we dont care about their opinion.

 

[duul]

I can see them Duranting him. Throw him out there, one tweak, it's destroyed and he has to have surgery. It was probably the better option to have surgery in the first place but they didn't want him missing games so they risked 'rehabbing' it. One tweak and that thing is done for.

 

[Jimmi McJenkins]

I can see them Duranting him. Throw him out there, one tweak, it's destroyed and he has to have surgery. It was probably the better option to have surgery in the first place but they didn't want him missing games so they risked 'rehabbing' it. One tweak and that thing is done for.

Best to just wildly assume this as fact.

 

[StreetHawk]

I’m sure McDavid and his camp got second opinions on his options. Most players prefer rehab over surgery if they can. He did have time on his side being out of the playoffs. But getting close to the start of camp in 2-3 weeks.

They do have to decide whether to hold him back if he’s not healthy to start as it’s not going to get better by playing.

 

[Tad Mikowsky]

I can see them Duranting him. Throw him out there, one tweak, it's destroyed and he has to have surgery. It was probably the better option to have surgery in the first place but they didn't want him missing games so they risked 'rehabbing' it. One tweak and that thing is done for.

Next to the body language experts, nothing on HF is as good as the medical doctors we have here on HFOil.

 

[oobga]

Next to the body language experts, nothing on HF is as good as the medical doctors we have here on HFOil.

Thankfully none of us has to encounter Andy Sutton to have our expertise questioned

 

[McJadeddog]

He’s still rehabbing the knee nearly 5 months later. Hopefully this was the right decision for his recovery.

But man, if this occurred back in October he likely would have missed the rest of the season. 60 plus game injury.

Yeah, you gotta wonder, 5 months in, if it was the right decision to not have surgery. People with ACL tears have taken less time to come back. Each injury is different though, so who knows. The doctors obviously are on top of it, and with the best player in the world, you gotta figure that they have gotten numerous opinions on the matter. I never trust the Oilers medical staff, and always expect the worst possible outcome, but this is one time where I think the downside of screwing up was just SOOOOOO huge, that you have to assume they did their due diligence.

 

[Todd from Leduc]

To be fair Burke also said that at some point McDavid is going to get tired of losing in Edmonton.
He also predicted that the Oilers will miss the playoffs this season and that will mean that McDavid will have made the playoffs 1 out of 5 years in Edmonton.
As a fan I want this team to make the playoffs this season and I think they can...that said we all know Burke is right about the potential of McDavid getting tired of losing.

In reality there is absolutely no point in worrying about whats going to happen in 5 years (hoping Matthews leaves) or in 7 years when McDavids contract is up and hoping he stays.

This is just Burke’s opinion, McDavid loves Edmonton, he signed for 8 years and built a mansion overlooking the best river valley in North America. The kid will retire here after winning cups and will be the next GM when he decides you heard it first here folks. GOILERS

 

[guymez]

This is just Burke’s opinion, McDavid loves Edmonton, he signed for 8 years and built a mansion overlooking the best river valley in North America. The kid will retire here after winning cups and will be the next GM when he decides you heard it first here folks. GOILERS

Well...thats just your opinion.

 

[KCC]

freakin toronto media yapping saying mcdavid isn't enjoying hockey anymore. It's ridiculous. I get that losing can take its toll on you but he's not there yet. In his eyes I think if he can win a cup before his contract ends he'll be happy. EDM will start winning eventually. Next year when more money gets freed up we will see what happens. As we've all seen, things can turn around very fast in today's NHL if you start building correctly. Hopefully Holland can do that. EDM can't be bad forever, right? Somewhere along the way it has to start turning around.

 

[poolparty98]

I was listening to Stellick and Simmer this morning on NHL network. Live from biosteel camp, couple of tidbits. They mentioned that because of injury he was able to work out hard this summer and his fitness is on another level.

Now the bad, both of them speculated that he will not be ready to start the season.

 

[oobga]

freakin toronto media yapping saying mcdavid isn't enjoying hockey anymore. It's ridiculous. I get that losing can take its toll on you but he's not there yet. In his eyes I think if he can win a cup before his contract ends he'll be happy. EDM will start winning eventually. Next year when more money gets freed up we will see what happens. As we've all seen, things can turn around very fast in today's NHL if you start building correctly. Hopefully Holland can do that. EDM can't be bad forever, right? Somewhere along the way it has to start turning around.

That G&M article stayed on the front page of their site for almost a week. I guess mission accomplished. Click-bait successful. It was never intended to be much more than that.

 

[McJadeddog]

I was listening to Stellick and Simmer this morning on NHL network. Live from biosteel camp, couple of tidbits. They mentioned that because of injury he was able to work out hard this summer and his fitness is on another level.

Now the bad, both of them speculated that he will not be ready to start the season.

Those two pieces of information don't make much sense when taken in context with one another. Is he in amazing shape only on his upper-body? Was he able to do cardio, but not strength? If so, wouldn't either of those have pretty bad affects on his fitness level? Something doesn't make sense, or I'm missing some of the context here.

Regardless, there certainly seems to be an AWFUL lot of smoke regarding his injury for there to be no fire. Over a month late on his rehab already, and some whispers that he won't be ready for over another month still. It sucks, but there isn't much we can do.

 

[Sam Spade]

I can see them Duranting him. Throw him out there, one tweak, it's destroyed and he has to have surgery. It was probably the better option to have surgery in the first place but they didn't want him missing games so they risked 'rehabbing' it. One tweak and that thing is done for.

Just reading through this thread after reading this article and didn't see anything:

Is there any reason for optimism in Edmonton this season? - TheHockeyNews

In the best-case scenario. McDavid’s recovery from knee surgery finishes on time for him to start the season, he continues to produce at a generational-talent level

Is this simply bad reporting, subterfuge on the Oilers part or did he have it scoped maybe and that is considered "surgery"?

 

[bone]

Just reading through this thread after reading this article and didn't see anything:

Is there any reason for optimism in Edmonton this season? - TheHockeyNews



Is this simply bad reporting, subterfuge on the Oilers part or did he have it scoped maybe and that is considered "surgery"?

Oh look, another GTA based writer doing a "body language" article on an Oiler player, complete with inaccurate information and a video thumbnail with a very happy looking Draisaitl delivering doom and gloom. Let's get this one as many hits as the last one.

 

[Sam Spade]

Oh look, another GTA based writer doing a "body language" article on an Oiler player, complete with inaccurate information. Let's get this one as many hits as the last one.

Not my intent to bring that aspect up at all, I really am curious about McDavid's knee. The Oilers are my west team and I wish the best for them always.

 

[bone]

Not my intent to bring that aspect up at all, I really am curious about McDavid's knee. The Oilers are my west team and I wish the best for them always.

I know it's not your intent, just reading it was flashbacks to the douche-canoe's article from the other day. Sorry if it came off as a shot at you. It's a reputable publication, but this article (though better than the last) just seems like another shot at the Oilers, and the writer couldn't even bother to fact check that surgery wasn't necessary.

 

[Del Preston]

More trash from a Toronto publication.

 

[McFlyingV]

I can see them Duranting him. Throw him out there, one tweak, it's destroyed and he has to have surgery. It was probably the better option to have surgery in the first place but they didn't want him missing games so they risked 'rehabbing' it. One tweak and that thing is done for.

Or because PCL surgery is less common, and partial tears are far less likely to be surgical candidates. Surgery of a partial tear would not have been much different of a healing timeline. I think it's far more likely that the specialists decided this was the appropriate form of treatment.

 

[CornKicker]

Next to the body language experts, nothing on HF is as good as the medical doctors we have here on HFOil.

i wouldnt mind some of our experts getting a look at the legs body language to be honest

 

[Tobias Kahun]

Not my intent to bring that aspect up at all, I really am curious about McDavid's knee. The Oilers are my west team and I wish the best for them always.

If you're curious, I wouldn't be looking at hockeynews or globeandmail for information.

 

[Sam Spade]

If you're curious, I wouldn't be looking at hockeynews or globeandmail for information.

Apparently.