Connor Hellebuyck

[larmex99]

Do we have the best pick ups after round three of the draft or what! This guy is the real deal, great scouting, bet that scout is smiling now!

Cool story about his being scouted by Rick St Croix. He was scouting a different goalie that was playing against Hellboy and came back and said "Forget about that guy. We need to draft Hellebyck!" That looks to be St Croix's claim to fame as a scout though.

 

[Skinnyjimmy08]

what are the chances that if there are some mean nothing games later on, weather its due to clinching a playoff spot or knocked out of playoff contention, that Jets show their love to Helle and call him up for a few games?

I know Id love to see him get in a few games this year

 

[StronGeer]

what are the chances that if there are some mean nothing games later on, weather its due to clinching a playoff spot or knocked out of playoff contention, that Jets show their love to Helle and call him up for a few games?

I know Id love to see him get in a few games this year

Pretty much zero, imo.

 

[Skinnyjimmy08]

Pretty much zero, imo.

u just crushed my hopes haha

 

[igorulanov]

what are the chances that if there are some mean nothing games later on, weather its due to clinching a playoff spot or knocked out of playoff contention, that Jets show their love to Helle and call him up for a few games?

I know Id love to see him get in a few games this year

Maybe they'd call him up just to see how he meshes with the team? Especially if the Jets think he's got a real shot at a promotion next year?

Didn't they do that with Trouba, have him around for the end of the season for an extended time so he could practice with the big boys?

What else does Helle need to prove in the AHL (outside of playoff success maybe)?

 

[Skinnyjimmy08]

Maybe they'd call him up just to see how he meshes with the team? Especially if the Jets think he's got a real shot at a promotion next year?

Didn't they do that with Trouba, have him around for the end of the season for an extended time so he could practice with the big boys?

What else does Helle need to prove in the AHL (outside of playoff success maybe)?

Ya why not call him up for a week or so... may as well!... maybe itll light a fire under Pavalec's a*#

 

[YWGinYYZ]

Ya why not call him up for a week or so... may as well!... maybe itll light a fire under Pavalec's a*#

There are no more fires to be lit - either Pavelec changes his fundamentals, or he'll remain the same goaltender that he's always been. It's not a question of "want" - I believe Pavelec "wants" to be a great goaltender.

Probably better to discuss this in the goaltending thread though, and keep this thread focused on Hellebuyck.

 

[Gm0ney]

Cool story about his being scouted by Rick St Croix. He was scouting a different goalie that was playing against Hellboy and came back and said "Forget about that guy. We need to draft Hellebyck!" That looks to be St Croix's claim to fame as a scout though.

Where'd you see/hear that? I've been wondering for ages who the hell was scouting the Odessa Jackalopes and unearthed this guy...

 

[larmex99]

Where'd you see/hear that? I've been wondering for ages who the hell was scouting the Odessa Jackalopes and unearthed this guy...

Came up on a google search. I could fnd it again if you can't find it.

 

[larmex99]

Here is the scouting story:

http://www.thetelegram.com/Sports/2015-01-26/article-4020179/This-IceCap-has-ice-in-his-veins/1

 

[Romang67]

Well, that's what happened with Datsyuk. So if Hellebuyck doesn't end up being at least as good for us as Datsyuk has been for Detroit, I consider that pick a failure.

 

[JMT21]

I can't even imagine where the IceCaps would be this year without Helly.

Down right scary (IMO)

 

[DudeWhereIsMakar]

Only time I want him called up is during the playoffs when the AHL season is done.

The-Helle-Copter

 

[Jets4Life]

Only time I want him called up is during the playoffs when the AHL season is done.

The-Helle-Copter

I would not mind at all, if Hellebuyck was called up if Hutch goes on a slump. Think Hedberg and the Penguins 2001...

 

[CorgisPer60]

I really don't want anything to disrupt Hellebuyck's rookie year in the AHL. So many people want him to be called up. That won't happen unless there's an injury, and I wouldn't doubt that Budaj gets called up before Hellboy.

 

[KingBogo]

I really don't want anything to disrupt Hellebuyck's rookie year in the AHL. So many people want him to be called up. That won't happen unless there's an injury, and I wouldn't doubt that Budaj gets called up before Hellboy.

So what is to disrupt? He is your top goalie in your farm system. Having a rookie goalie and a sub par veteran at the NHL level and not adding any goalie depth would indicate the Jets have left themselves open to the chance of calling up Helly.

Budaj is really not even an AHL capable goalie at this point in his career. I doubt the Jets would put the playoff hopes on the shoulders of a player significantly worse then Pavs.

I'd buy the disruption argument for Helly if the Jets brought him up to sit in the pressbox and watch hockey. But if he is called up to play games how is that a disruption? If you don't think he has developed enough or is mature enough that is a different and valid discussion IMO.

He is a bit young for an NHL goalie but it is not like he is a high school or junior age kid. He will be 22 yo in a couple months and has been playing professional hockey for most of a season. He is the same age as Gibson for the Ducks who happens to be playing pretty solid for them right now.

 

[Gil Fisher]

I'll tell you what there is to disrupt: The Process.

 

[Romang67]

I really don't want anything to disrupt Hellebuyck's rookie year in the AHL. So many people want him to be called up. That won't happen unless there's an injury, and I wouldn't doubt that Budaj gets called up before Hellboy.

I see what you're saying, but considering this rookie year wasn't part of anyone's plan (seriously, he has almost 400 more shots against than the 2nd ranked goalie this season), I think his chances of getting called up are greater than they would have been if he were in a situation anyone could have foreseen.

Also, I doubt they call up Budaj. The guy is done.

 

[allan5oh]

Here is the scouting story:

http://www.thetelegram.com/Sports/2015-01-26/article-4020179/This-IceCap-has-ice-in-his-veins/1

Wow not even ranked by central scouting. Sometimes scouting is just pure dumb luck, and in this case I night just be.

 

[Romang67]

Wow not even ranked by central scouting. Sometimes scouting is just pure dumb luck, and in this case I night just be.

The interesting thing is that despite not being ranked, and first being scouted when the scout was scouting someone else, we still drafted him in the 5th round.

Our 2012 draft is shaping up to look really good, actually.

1st round: Trouba
2nd round: Lukas ****ing Sutter!
3rd round: Scott Kosmachuk
4th round: Pick traded for Fehr
5th round: Connor Hellebuyck
6th round: Ryan Olsen
7th round: Jamie Phillips

That's four players signed to a contract, with a possible fifth depending on if this season actually shows what Phillips is capable of or not. It has good chances to lead to at least three players spending considerable time in the NHL. Could be as low as 1 if we're unlucky, and as many as 5 (highly unlikely) if we're lucky.

That Sutter pick though...

 

[Halfy]

I'll tell you what there is to disrupt: The Process.

Follow the process. Live the process. Love the process. Believe in the process.

 

[Jetabre]

Hellebuyck we need you please save us.

 

[Board Bard]

The interesting thing is that despite not being ranked, and first being scouted when the scout was scouting someone else, we still drafted him in the 5th round.

Our 2012 draft is shaping up to look really good, actually.

1st round: Trouba
2nd round: Lukas ****ing Sutter!
3rd round: Scott Kosmachuk
4th round: Pick traded for Fehr
5th round: Connor Hellebuyck
6th round: Ryan Olsen
7th round: Jamie Phillips

That's four players signed to a contract, with a possible fifth depending on if this season actually shows what Phillips is capable of or not. It has good chances to lead to at least three players spending considerable time in the NHL. Could be as low as 1 if we're unlucky, and as many as 5 (highly unlikely) if we're lucky.

That Sutter pick though...

That's like buying a Rolex from a guy with a van, then looking at it more closely to find it's a Bolex.

 

[Whileee]

The interesting thing is that despite not being ranked, and first being scouted when the scout was scouting someone else, we still drafted him in the 5th round.

Our 2012 draft is shaping up to look really good, actually.

1st round: Trouba
2nd round: Lukas ****ing Sutter!
3rd round: Scott Kosmachuk
4th round: Pick traded for Fehr
5th round: Connor Hellebuyck
6th round: Ryan Olsen
7th round: Jamie Phillips

That's four players signed to a contract, with a possible fifth depending on if this season actually shows what Phillips is capable of or not. It has good chances to lead to at least three players spending considerable time in the NHL. Could be as low as 1 if we're unlucky, and as many as 5 (highly unlikely) if we're lucky.

That Sutter pick though...

Could end up with 2 or 3 NHLers out of that draft. If Hellebuyck is the real deal, he could be a #1 goalie. Nabbing a franchise level defenseman and #1 goalie in a single draft year is terrific. If Kosmo becomes an NHLer, it's icing on the cake.

 

[Whileee]

Wow not even ranked by central scouting. Sometimes scouting is just pure dumb luck, and in this case I night just be.

...if it keeps happening, it might not just be "dumb luck".

The Jets doubled their scouting staff from the Thrashers' days, so they can cover more ground and have more viewings of players. They can also cross-reference scouting to get more stable ranking systems. Add to that a good scouting philosophy (hockey sense, good character instead of pure emphasis on size, or even worse, "truculence"), and you start to tilt the drafting odds into your favour. That's what an effective "draft and develop" strategy does.