Congrats on 700 wins Mike Babcock!

[Pookie]

He piled up all his wins with Detroit. He's won 172 games as a Leafs coach, in 344 games. That's not impressive at all.

Opening up a thread to congratulate him on 700 (arbitrary round number) wins is funny, when he hasn't even cracked 200 as a Maple Leaf thus far.

If this was a thread about him getting his 100th, or 500th as a Leaf, I'd be singing a different tune.

Sounds like you woke up like this

Pretty good company. 700 wins is just as arbitrary as 500.

 

[MyBudJT]

He piled up all his wins with Detroit. He's won 172 games as a Leafs coach, in 344 games. That's not impressive at all.

Opening up a thread to congratulate him on 700 (arbitrary round number) wins is funny, when he hasn't even cracked 200 as a Maple Leaf thus far.

If this was a thread about him getting his 100th, or 500th as a Leaf, I'd be singing a different tune.

Tell us how you really feel!

 

[Cleetus]

He piled up all his wins with Detroit. He's won 172 games as a Leafs coach, in 344 games. That's not impressive at all.

Opening up a thread to congratulate him on 700 (arbitrary round number) wins is funny, when he hasn't even cracked 200 as a Maple Leaf thus far.

If this was a thread about him getting his 100th, or 500th as a Leaf, I'd be singing a different tune.

only 8 other coaches have got to 700 wins and its not impressive??? show some more of your babcock bias, pretty sad post, and you call me out for making a thread about it? because you do not agree with a milestone ? smh, heck there is even a thread about comparing our players to accounting firms, but you called this thread out sad.

 

[The Iceman]

But I want everything now...who cares if he has been out hurt..make him play 15-20 minutes. Babcock should have made him fight Reaves too, but only using his bad shoulder

Dermott has played 4 games now. He has been skating for a couple months. Medical staff cleared him for full contact. This is Babs choking his development.
8 mins/night is for the Marincin's and Gravel's, not Dermott our future top 4. Embarrasing.

 

[Mess]

way to go 700 wins!, 8th coach of all time to get to 700.

Babcock has won on all levels in the NHL and internationally and Junior hockey and likely a 1st ballot Hockey Hall of Fame inductee

700 NHL wins a great NHL accomplishment that only 7 others in history have achieved over 100 years.

A milestone of success that few have reached and not one you would if you didn't know how to coach success at the NHL level.

Its why Babcock is viewed by many including his peers as one of the best coaches in the World.

"Never say never to a Mike Babcock coached team" I always say.

 

[Teeder Keon]

I think it’s very impressive to win 700
But
I’m way more impressed by coaches that win playoff rounds and go to finals often and win multiple cups
Sorry
Not being biased in this assessment.
Plain and simple
Win playoff rounds
Stay top 4 year in year out and contend for the cup
Win cups
That’s very impressive

 

[ACC1224]

Dermott has played 4 games now. He has been skating for a couple months. Medical staff cleared him for full contact. This is Babs choking his development.
8 mins/night is for the Marincin's and Gravel's, not Dermott our future top 4. Embarrasing.

What was wrong with the PK last night?

 

[The Iceman]

What was wrong with the PK last night?

The minutes allocated to Dermott was what I did not like. Less than 1 minute on the PK.
First he is not going to learn sitting at the end of the bench, and second he is one of our better defenders.

It is not reasonable playing Dermott 8 minutes a night. So what is Babs waiting for??
This coach predetermines his minutes/matchups and does not deviate.
Far different to what Burns and Quinn did who were masters at playing with combinations and getting guys rolling based on seeing what is working. I far prefer this trait.

And if you really want to talk about bad deployment on the PK GOAT for 2.5 minutes is a horror show. Not sure who thought putting a big guy who can't skate on the PK is a good idea. My eyes burn watching him try to close a gap or get in a lane from a stopped position. Stumbles and falls half the time.

Just because the team doesn't get scored on the PK doesn't mean they are doing everything correct. Lets go for sustained success which means having better PK players out there for more minutes.

 

[18leafsfan18]

Just looked it up:

Rk	Coach	GP	W	Percent
1	Scotty Bowman*	2141	1244	58.1%
2	Joel Quenneville	1651	897	54.3%
3	Ken Hitchcock	1598	849	53.1%
4	Barry Trotz	1621	821	50.6%
5	Al Arbour*	1607	782	48.7%
6	Lindy Ruff	1493	736	49.3%
7	Paul Maurice	1545	703	45.5%
8	Mike Babcock	1295	700	54.1%

[TBODY] [/TBODY]

Pretty insane the gap from Scotty Bowman to Quenneville.

Babcock could also jump a few more people on that list.

His winning percentage is pretty damn good too (only worse then Quenneville & Bowman).

I'm pretty critical on Babcock for a lot of things, but you can't deny he has a very impressive career so far.

 

[Teeder Keon]

The minutes allocated to Dermott was what I did not like. Less than 1 minute on the PK.
First he is not going to learn sitting at the end of the bench, and second he is one of our better defenders.

It is not reasonable playing Dermott 8 minutes a night. So what is Babs waiting for??
This coach predetermines his minutes/matchups and does not deviate.
Far different to what Burns and Quinn did who were masters at playing with combinations and getting guys rolling based on seeing what is working. I far prefer this trait.

And if you really want to talk about bad deployment on the PK GOAT for 2.5 minutes is a horror show. Not sure who thought putting a big guy who can't skate on the PK is a good idea. My eyes burn watching him try to close a gap or get in a lane from a stopped position. Stumbles and falls half the time.

Just because the team doesn't get scored on the PK doesn't mean they are doing everything correct. Lets go for sustained success which means having better PK players out there for more minutes.

Agreed

 

[Teeder Keon]

Just looked it up:

Rk	Coach	GP	W	Percent
1	Scotty Bowman*	2141	1244	58.1%
2	Joel Quenneville	1651	897	54.3%
3	Ken Hitchcock	1598	849	53.1%
4	Barry Trotz	1621	821	50.6%
5	Al Arbour*	1607	782	48.7%
6	Lindy Ruff	1493	736	49.3%
7	Paul Maurice	1545	703	45.5%
8	Mike Babcock	1295	700	54.1%

[TBODY] [/TBODY]

Pretty insane the gap from Scotty Bowman to Quenneville.

Babcock could also jump a few more people on that list.

His winning percentage is pretty damn good too (only worse then Quenneville & Bowman).

I'm pretty critical on Babcock for a lot of things, but you can't deny he has a very impressive career so far.

Please look at cups and playoff wins
Thank you

 

[18leafsfan18]

Please look at cups and playoff wins
Thank you

Here You Go (1 Place Higher):

Rk	Coach	G	W	W-L%	Cups
1	Scotty Bowman*	353	223	0.632	9
2	Al Arbour*	209	123	0.589	4
3	Joel Quenneville	215	118	0.549	3
4	Dick Irvin*	190	100	0.532	4
5	Mike Keenan	173	96	0.555	1
6	Pat Quinn*	183	94	0.514	0
7	Mike Babcock	164	90	0.549	1
8	Glen Sather*	127	89	0.705	4

[TBODY] [/TBODY]

 

[Teeder Keon]

Here You Go (1 Place Higher):

Rk	Coach	G	W	W-L%
1	Scotty Bowman*	353	223	0.632
2	Al Arbour*	209	123	0.589
3	Joel Quenneville	215	118	0.549
4	Dick Irvin*	190	100	0.532
5	Mike Keenan	173	96	0.555
6	Pat Quinn*	183	94	0.514
7	Mike Babcock	164	90	0.549
8	Glen Sather*	127	89	0.705

[TBODY] [/TBODY]

Thank you

 

[ACC1224]

The minutes allocated to Dermott was what I did not like. Less than 1 minute on the PK.
First he is not going to learn sitting at the end of the bench, and second he is one of our better defenders.

It is not reasonable playing Dermott 8 minutes a night. So what is Babs waiting for??
This coach predetermines his minutes/matchups and does not deviate.
Far different to what Burns and Quinn did who were masters at playing with combinations and getting guys rolling based on seeing what is working. I far prefer this trait.

And if you really want to talk about bad deployment on the PK GOAT for 2.5 minutes is a horror show. Not sure who thought putting a big guy who can't skate on the PK is a good idea. My eyes burn watching him try to close a gap or get in a lane from a stopped position. Stumbles and falls half the time.

Just because the team doesn't get scored on the PK doesn't mean they are doing everything correct. Lets go for sustained success which means having better PK players out there for more minutes.

Just seemed odd to complain about the PK in a game where they weren't scored on. I watched the game in a bar so didn't pay that close attention, just knew they didn't give any up. Do we even know that it's Babcock that is sending the PK unit out? Don't assistants do that on most Teams?

Seems like your issues with the coach are a little more deeply rooted than just the PK deployment of Dermott.
Anyway, not to worry, Dermott will get lots of minutes down the road. Looks like he's developing into a really good young defender.

 

[18leafsfan18]

Thank you

Added amount of Cups to the original one:

Rk	Coach	G	W	W-L%	Cups
1	Scotty Bowman*	353	223	0.632	9
2	Al Arbour*	209	123	0.589	4
3	Joel Quenneville	215	118	0.549	3
4	Dick Irvin*	190	100	0.532	4
5	Mike Keenan	173	96	0.555	1
6	Pat Quinn*	183	94	0.514	0
7	Mike Babcock	164	90	0.549	1
8	Glen Sather*	127	89	0.705	4

[TBODY] [/TBODY]

 

[Teeder Keon]

Added amount of Cups to the original one:

Rk	Coach	G	W	W-L%	Cups
1	Scotty Bowman*	353	223	0.632	9
2	Al Arbour*	209	123	0.589	4
3	Joel Quenneville	215	118	0.549	3
4	Dick Irvin*	190	100	0.532	4
5	Mike Keenan	173	96	0.555	1
6	Pat Quinn*	183	94	0.514	0
7	Mike Babcock	164	90	0.549	1
8	Glen Sather*	127	89	0.705	4

[TBODY] [/TBODY]

Thank you again
Wow Mr Bowman was and is impressive and so was Sather

 

[ACC1224]

Just looked it up:

Rk	Coach	GP	W	Percent
1	Scotty Bowman*	2141	1244	58.1%
2	Joel Quenneville	1651	897	54.3%
3	Ken Hitchcock	1598	849	53.1%
4	Barry Trotz	1621	821	50.6%
5	Al Arbour*	1607	782	48.7%
6	Lindy Ruff	1493	736	49.3%
7	Paul Maurice	1545	703	45.5%
8	Mike Babcock	1295	700	54.1%

[TBODY] [/TBODY]

Pretty insane the gap from Scotty Bowman to Quenneville.

Babcock could also jump a few more people on that list.

His winning percentage is pretty damn good too (only worse then Quenneville & Bowman).

I'm pretty critical on Babcock for a lot of things, but you can't deny he has a very impressive career so far.

Paul Maurice is the most surprising name on that list, IMO.

 

[supermann_98]

Congrats, now fire him for taking a skilled team and forcing them to play like plumbers

 

[Mats13]

Next Year we'll celebrate 800

Hopefully he’s celebrating that on a different team

 

[Gary Nylund]

Congrats, now fire him for taking a skilled team and forcing them to play like plumbers

 

[GoonieFace]

Congrats, now fire him for taking a skilled team and forcing them to play like plumbers

Are you saying plumbers arent skilled? Fresh idea, run and gun hockey alone is a recipe for playoff failure. Let them learn to play ugly, and the rest of the game will come easier.

 

[supermann_98]

Are you saying plumbers arent skilled? Fresh idea, run and gun hockey alone is a recipe for playoff failure. Let them learn to play ugly, and the rest of the game will come easier.

Plumbers are extremely skilled at what they do, but I haven't met a plumber yet who can actually play hockey

 

[Zybalto]

I think our medical staff has more say into player ice time than the average fan realizes.

You can't just have a player come back from off-season shoulder surgery and expect him to get prime minutes.

I think the Leafs are doing it right. Slowly get him back into regular duty, and see how his body responds.

Digging a little deeper on the PK regular pairings:

Top PK pairing:
Muzzin/Ceci

Goals against/60: 4.36

2nd pairing:
Rielly/Holl

Goals against/60: 15.64



To illustrate what is I think the big problem with the PK:

PK with Morgan Rielly:
Goals against/60: 12.73

PK without Rielly:
Goals against/60: 3.13


Now he could be getting really unlucky here but that's a pretty big difference.

 

[Al14]

Congrats, now, GTFO!

 

[Tak7]

Just looked it up:

Rk	Coach	GP	W	Percent
1	Scotty Bowman*	2141	1244	58.1%
2	Joel Quenneville	1651	897	54.3%
3	Ken Hitchcock	1598	849	53.1%
4	Barry Trotz	1621	821	50.6%
5	Al Arbour*	1607	782	48.7%
6	Lindy Ruff	1493	736	49.3%
7	Paul Maurice	1545	703	45.5%
8	Mike Babcock	1295	700	54.1%

[TBODY] [/TBODY]

Pretty insane the gap from Scotty Bowman to Quenneville.

Babcock could also jump a few more people on that list.

His winning percentage is pretty damn good too (only worse then Quenneville & Bowman).

I'm pretty critical on Babcock for a lot of things, but you can't deny he has a very impressive career so far.

Paul Maurice will forever be one of the most fascinating people in hockey, for me.

703 wins, but a losing record. So bizarre