Congrats on 700 wins Mike Babcock!

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  1. Pookie

    Pookie It was a pleasure doing business with you

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    Sounds like you woke up like this

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    Pretty good company. 700 wins is just as arbitrary as 500.
     
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    Tell us how you really feel!
     
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  3. rubous

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    only 8 other coaches have got to 700 wins and its not impressive??? show some more of your babcock bias, pretty sad post, and you call me out for making a thread about it? because you do not agree with a milestone ? smh, heck there is even a thread about comparing our players to accounting firms, but you called this thread out sad.
     
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  4. The Iceman

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    Dermott has played 4 games now. He has been skating for a couple months. Medical staff cleared him for full contact. This is Babs choking his development.
    8 mins/night is for the Marincin's and Gravel's, not Dermott our future top 4. Embarrasing.
     
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    Babcock has won on all levels in the NHL and internationally and Junior hockey and likely a 1st ballot Hockey Hall of Fame inductee

    700 NHL wins a great NHL accomplishment that only 7 others in history have achieved over 100 years.

    A milestone of success that few have reached and not one you would if you didn't know how to coach success at the NHL level.

    Its why Babcock is viewed by many including his peers as one of the best coaches in the World.

    "Never say never to a Mike Babcock coached team" I always say. :wg:
     
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  6. Teeder Keon

    Teeder Keon Defeat does not rest lightly on their shoulders

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    I think it’s very impressive to win 700
    But
    I’m way more impressed by coaches that win playoff rounds and go to finals often and win multiple cups
    Sorry
    Not being biased in this assessment.
    Plain and simple
    Win playoff rounds
    Stay top 4 year in year out and contend for the cup
    Win cups
    That’s very impressive
     
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  7. ACC1224

    ACC1224 Keeping it real, someone has to.

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    What was wrong with the PK last night?
     
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    The minutes allocated to Dermott was what I did not like. Less than 1 minute on the PK.
    First he is not going to learn sitting at the end of the bench, and second he is one of our better defenders.

    It is not reasonable playing Dermott 8 minutes a night. So what is Babs waiting for??
    This coach predetermines his minutes/matchups and does not deviate.
    Far different to what Burns and Quinn did who were masters at playing with combinations and getting guys rolling based on seeing what is working. I far prefer this trait.

    And if you really want to talk about bad deployment on the PK GOAT for 2.5 minutes is a horror show. Not sure who thought putting a big guy who can't skate on the PK is a good idea. My eyes burn watching him try to close a gap or get in a lane from a stopped position. Stumbles and falls half the time.

    Just because the team doesn't get scored on the PK doesn't mean they are doing everything correct. Lets go for sustained success which means having better PK players out there for more minutes.
     
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  9. 18leafsfan18

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    Just looked it up:

    RkCoachGPWPercent
    1Scotty Bowman*2141124458.1%
    2Joel Quenneville165189754.3%
    3Ken Hitchcock159884953.1%
    4Barry Trotz162182150.6%
    5Al Arbour*160778248.7%
    6Lindy Ruff149373649.3%
    7Paul Maurice154570345.5%
    8Mike Babcock129570054.1%
    Pretty insane the gap from Scotty Bowman to Quenneville.

    Babcock could also jump a few more people on that list.

    His winning percentage is pretty damn good too (only worse then Quenneville & Bowman).

    I'm pretty critical on Babcock for a lot of things, but you can't deny he has a very impressive career so far.
     
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    Teeder Keon Defeat does not rest lightly on their shoulders

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    Agreed
     
  11. Teeder Keon

    Teeder Keon Defeat does not rest lightly on their shoulders

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    Please look at cups and playoff wins
    Thank you
     
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    Here You Go (1 Place Higher):

    RkCoachGWW-L%Cups
    1Scotty Bowman*3532230.6329
    2Al Arbour*2091230.5894
    3Joel Quenneville2151180.5493
    4Dick Irvin*1901000.5324
    5Mike Keenan173960.5551
    6Pat Quinn*183940.5140
    7Mike Babcock164900.5491
    8Glen Sather*127890.7054
     
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    Teeder Keon Defeat does not rest lightly on their shoulders

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    Thank you
     
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    ACC1224 Keeping it real, someone has to.

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    Just seemed odd to complain about the PK in a game where they weren't scored on. I watched the game in a bar so didn't pay that close attention, just knew they didn't give any up. Do we even know that it's Babcock that is sending the PK unit out? Don't assistants do that on most Teams?

    Seems like your issues with the coach are a little more deeply rooted than just the PK deployment of Dermott.
    Anyway, not to worry, Dermott will get lots of minutes down the road. Looks like he's developing into a really good young defender.
     
  15. 18leafsfan18

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    Added amount of Cups to the original one:

    RkCoachGWW-L%Cups
    1Scotty Bowman*3532230.6329
    2Al Arbour*2091230.5894
    3Joel Quenneville2151180.5493
    4Dick Irvin*1901000.5324
    5Mike Keenan173960.5551
    6Pat Quinn*183940.5140
    7Mike Babcock164900.5491
    8Glen Sather*127890.7054
     
  16. Teeder Keon

    Teeder Keon Defeat does not rest lightly on their shoulders

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    Thank you again
    Wow Mr Bowman was and is impressive and so was Sather
     
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    ACC1224 Keeping it real, someone has to.

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    Paul Maurice is the most surprising name on that list, IMO.
     
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    Congrats, now fire him for taking a skilled team and forcing them to play like plumbers
     
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    Hopefully he’s celebrating that on a different team
     
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    :laugh::laugh:
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    Are you saying plumbers arent skilled? Fresh idea, run and gun hockey alone is a recipe for playoff failure. Let them learn to play ugly, and the rest of the game will come easier.
     
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    Plumbers are extremely skilled at what they do, but I haven't met a plumber yet who can actually play hockey
     
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    Digging a little deeper on the PK regular pairings:

    Top PK pairing:
    Muzzin/Ceci

    Goals against/60: 4.36

    2nd pairing:
    Rielly/Holl

    Goals against/60: 15.64



    To illustrate what is I think the big problem with the PK:

    PK with Morgan Rielly:
    Goals against/60: 12.73

    PK without Rielly:
    Goals against/60: 3.13


    Now he could be getting really unlucky here but that's a pretty big difference.
     
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    Congrats, now, GTFO! :biglaugh:
     
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    Paul Maurice will forever be one of the most fascinating people in hockey, for me.

    703 wins, but a losing record. So bizarre
     

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