Post-Game Talk: Congrats MAF

vodeni

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missed the game, but just going off the shot charts we didn't have anywhere near the prime scoring chances than they did.
yep, basically for 50 minutes, they had not had a decent look othe than goals...this team does not how to come through NZ to overpower and create chances, the whole game is dump to no one, hope you get lucky to retrieve the puck, circle around back to blue line for limp shots without net presence..but we competed hard...fire him already, at least give us a chance to see something different
 

canadianguy77

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yep, basically for 50 minutes, they had not had a decent look othe than goals...this team does not how to come through NZ to overpower and create chances, the whole game is dump to no one, hope you get lucky to retrieve the puck, circle around back to blue line for limp shots without net presence..but we competed hard...fire him already, at least give us a chance to see something different
He’s so f***ing regimented in his thinking…just refuses to try anything else. Like switch the wingers up for a game. Even just swap sides with some of them so there are more playing on their off-wing so maybe they can get some better looks offensively.
Try something to generate more offense.
 
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The Penguins have scored more than 4 goals in a game two times since November 14th. Lately even more than 3 has been impossible - the last time they did it was January 8th. And they have been healthier than any team with such an old roster can expect. They show up for 10 or sometimes even 30 minutes and people remember that flurry of offensive activity but not the rest of the game where a literal zamboni driver could have stopped almost all Penguins shots with hilarious ease.
 
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The Old Master

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The Penguins have scored more than 4 goals in a game two times since November 14th. Lately even more than 3 has been impossible - the last time they did it was January 8th. And they have been healthier than any team with such an old roster can expect. They show up for 10 or sometimes even 30 minutes and people remember that flurry of offensive activity but not the rest of the game where a literal zamboni driver could have stopped almost all Penguins shots with hilarious ease.
really? why should any team need to score more than 4 goals a game?:dunno:and that includes shoot outs.:laugh:
 
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Darren McCord

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really? why should any team need to score more than 4 goals a game?:dunno:and that includes shoot outs.:laugh:

The isles have a better goals per game than us.

Let that sink in. Then think about how sullivan continues to deploy guys like Harkins and white.

Harkins doesn't even PK. There is no reason for him to be on this team, he literally brings nothing.
 

The Old Master

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With the way the league is structured, scoring should be well over 3 per game

The bigger issue is the bottom six ghosting every boxscore
maybe, but i still see no reason why it couldn't. there are like 35 plus or minus goaltenders that have played over 110 games all have a gaa of 3 or under.
 
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Sidney the Kidney

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The Penguins have scored more than 4 goals in a game two times since November 14th. Lately even more than 3 has been impossible - the last time they did it was January 8th. And they have been healthier than any team with such an old roster can expect. They show up for 10 or sometimes even 30 minutes and people remember that flurry of offensive activity but not the rest of the game where a literal zamboni driver could have stopped almost all Penguins shots with hilarious ease.
Any day now those xGF are going to translate into actual goals, right Sullivan? What a f***ing knob.
 
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The isles have a better goals per game than us.

Let that sink in. Then think about how sullivan continues to deploy guys like Harkins and white.

Harkins doesn't even PK. There is no reason for him to be on this team, he literally brings nothing.

Why ice a player that can score like Puustinen when you can ice a player like Harkins.
 
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Why? On principle, cuz you hate Flower? That decision led to 1 playoff series win in this, the 7th playoffs since.
I would NOT choose to do it the same way.

I understood the decision at the time, but it was a mistake. We chose the injury prone goalie. He sitting at home with his dog watching Netflix atm, while 39 y/o Flower is putting in work.
Me wuvee flowa
 
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Josey Wales

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The Problem is what the "Core" is being paid You have to cut corners somewhere m& the place they cut is the bottom 6
 

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Why ice a player that can score like Puustinen when you can ice a player like Harkins.

Bro its even a lower bar than that. Play Z or Hinnistroza. They at least have some potential to score in the bottom six while still being a grindr for sully.

Its depressing how obvious it was in sept tho that Harkins was going to be treated this way.

He hits 4 out of 6 Sullivan player profiles

Harkins
Grinder - Check
Can't Score - Check
USA kid - Check
PK Specialist - Miss
NCAA - Miss
USA kid - Check
 
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FunkySeeFunkyDo

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The Problem is what the "Core" is being paid You have to cut corners somewhere m& the place they cut is the bottom 6
Jake, Sid, Letang, Geno are underpaid. EK65 overpaid this year, but I think when you combine their salaries and maybe Jarry’s, the “core” is underpaid.

Also, I don’t think the lack of scoring in the bottom 6 is that big of an issue as long as they give up as much or less. The problem is the powerplay and support for Geno.
 

Josey Wales

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Bro its even a lower bar than that. Play Z or Hinnistroza. They at least have some potential to score in the bottom six while still being a grindr for sully.

Its depressing how obvious it was in sept tho that Harkins was going to be treated this way.

He hits 4 out of 6 Sullivan player profiles

Harkins
Grinder - Check
Can't Score - Check
USA kid - Check
PK Specialist - Miss
NCAA - Miss
USA kid - Check
Z & Hinostroza BLOW
 

Sidney the Kidney

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Jake, Sid, Letang, Geno are underpaid. EK65 overpaid this year, but I think when you combine their salaries and maybe Jarry’s, the “core” is underpaid.

Also, I don’t think the lack of scoring in the bottom 6 is that big of an issue as long as they give up as much or less. The problem is the powerplay and support for Geno.
I agree that the PP and better support for Geno are an issue, but I disagree that the bottom six's lack of offense isn't. Our bottom six scores at about the rate you'd expect a 4th line to score. We essentially don't have a third line. That puts even more pressure on an aging top six to basically have to score all our goals, every night.
 
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pistolpete11

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I don't fundamentally have an issue with a defensive bottom 6, but it only works if you are getting enough goals from the top 6/PP. They aren't. Instead of adjusting the strategy and trying to find more goals from the bottom 6, Sullivan has decided to bash his head against a wall.

Puusy, Poulin, Z, Hino, and Nylander should all be in before Harkins and White. Smith should be in over Ruhwedel. Whatever 'risk' there is in playing these guys doesn't matter. They need to find more goals and they need to find them now.
 
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BillyOcean

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I think the worst part about Harkins is he doesn't even kill penalties. He's basically given a spot in the lineup for not scoring goals.
 
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I was out and didn't watch the game, but saw the power play go 1/6 and saw Sullivan saying they competed hard, so I'm guessing this one sucked shit. :laugh:
 

Josey Wales

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I don't fundamentally have an issue with a defensive bottom 6, but it only works if you are getting enough goals from the top 6/PP. They aren't. Instead of adjusting the strategy and trying to find more goals from the bottom 6, Sullivan has decided to bash his head against a wall.

Puusy, Poulin, Z, Hino, and Nylander should all be in before Harkins and White. Smith should be in over Ruhwedel. Whatever 'risk' there is in playing these guys doesn't matter. They need to find more goals and they need to find them now.
How The f*** is Puustinen., Poulin who hasn't even been up, Hinostroza Nylander any better ?
 

FunkySeeFunkyDo

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I agree that the PP and better support for Geno are an issue, but I disagree that the bottom six's lack of offense isn't. Our bottom six scores at about the rate you'd expect a 4th line to score. We essentially don't have a third line. That puts even more pressure on an aging top six to basically have to score all our goals, every night.
But as long as they don’t give up more it’s fine. Last season they were way under water, this year Sid’s line crushes and the other three are flat and we are a +14. If Geno’s line gets going and the PP gets going, watch out.
 

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I don't fundamentally have an issue with a defensive bottom 6, but it only works if you are getting enough goals from the top 6/PP. They aren't. Instead of adjusting the strategy and trying to find more goals from the bottom 6, Sullivan has decided to bash his head against a wall.

Puusy, Poulin, Z, Hino, and Nylander should all be in before Harkins and White. Smith should be in over Ruhwedel. Whatever 'risk' there is in playing these guys doesn't matter. They need to find more goals and they need to find them now.
I fundamentally dislike watching defensive hockey. It sucks. It's boring. Yinzers bitched about watching the Devils for years and now we get to watch this team become the Devils, but without any viability.
 

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