GDT: Colorado Aveslanche @ San Jose | 8 PM MT

[Bowe Byrum]

People put too much stock into centres for faceoffs. You have to teach faceoffs to the entire 5 man unit.

Your centre can win a draw clean but if his winger lets the other winger by without setting a pick/bumping him, there's no scoring opportunity.

If you win a defensive zone draw clean but their winger jumps our defensemen and gets to the puck in the corner first, what was the point of that faceoff win?

It's a 5-man endeavor.

You'e taught not to win the faceoff in the defensive end but just try not to lose it.

 

[LOFIN]

People put too much stock into centres for faceoffs. You have to teach faceoffs to the entire 5 man unit.

Your centre can win a draw clean but if his winger lets the other winger by without setting a pick/bumping him, there's no scoring opportunity.

If you win a defensive zone draw clean but their winger jumps our defensemen and gets to the puck in the corner first, what was the point of that faceoff win?

It's a 5-man endeavor.

Centers are overrated, period

 

[Pokecheque]

One of the other things that get a little overlooked is that Bednar gives some value to winning faceoffs but he also doesn't give his centers much puck support immediately following the draw. Some coaches have a guy, either a winger or even a d-man, rush in to either scoop up the puck or get after the opposition if the draw is lost, I don't typically see that with Bednar's system. They also don't always position themselves well to receive the puck in the event they win the puck. It was actually kinda revelatory when Johansen was telling MacKinnon where to line up in OT, I don't that happening with Kadri very much, I certainly don't remember it with guys like MacKinnon/Landeskog either.

I've mentioned it before but McGahey was dead-on when he said "even when the Avs win faceoffs, they lose them". It's true.

The thing that annoyed me most about the lost NZ draw that resulted in that Kings goal wasn't that they lost, or even the misplay by Georgiev, but that all five guys moved up the ice WAY too soon, leaving their half of the ice wide open.

 

[Pierce Hawthorne]

One of the other things that get a little overlooked is that Bednar gives some value to winning faceoffs but he also doesn't give his centers much puck support immediately following the draw. Some coaches have a guy, either a winger or even a d-man, rush in to either scoop up the puck or get after the opposition if the draw is lost, I don't typically see that with Bednar's system. They also don't always position themselves well to receive the puck in the event they win the puck. It was actually kinda revelatory when Johansen was telling MacKinnon where to line up in OT, I don't that happening with Kadri very much, I certainly don't remember it with guys like MacKinnon/Landeskog either.

I've mentioned it before but McGahey was dead-on when he said "even when the Avs win faceoffs, they lose them". It's true.

The thing that annoyed me most about the lost NZ draw that resulted in that Kings goal wasn't that they lost, or even the misplay by Georgiev, but that all five guys moved up the ice WAY too soon, leaving their half of the ice wide open.

You could tell that was a set play to try and get a jump on the sleeping KIngs players... Turns out the Avs were the ones sleeping.

 

[sethro109]

One of the other things that get a little overlooked is that Bednar gives some value to winning faceoffs

Saying he only gives it "some value" is massively underselling how much importance Bednar put on faceoffs. He always wants a right handedness center to take important and PP draws. Last year when Compher wasn't winning enough draws in the playoffs, he even put Eller on the top line in an act of desperation.

 

[Avs9296]

Damn looks like we're back to the whole faceoffs are/aren't important debate again. I swear things just get recycled around here when there's too much of a gap between games.

 

[Ceremony]

Damn looks like we're back to the whole faceoffs are/aren't important debate again. I swear things just get recycled around here when there's too much of a gap between games.

What if we'd let Manson go and re-signed Kadri instead?

 

[thedoctor]

What if we'd let Manson go and re-signed Kadri instead?

Do you think Compher is good?

 

[AvsGuy]

I think Compher is good

I think almost anyone apart from this forum thinks Compher is good

 

[Ceremony]

Do you think Compher is good?

I've seen more in two games of Colton than I ever did from Jimothy Timothy

 

[CobraAcesS]

I've seen more in two games of Colton than I ever did from Jimothy Timothy

Detroit seems happy with him, what they are forgetting, is that it's a long season lol.

Although I guess he does have a really strong friendship with Larkin. So maybe he actually tries more often than not, and feels accountable.

Still think that contract will age like spilt milk, but we'll see lol.

Colton is awesome so far, let's hope he can finish a little better and puts up points like Lehky instead of LOC/Calvert.

 

[GeoRox89]

Detroit seems happy with him, what they are forgetting, is that it's a long season lol.

Although I guess he does have a really strong friendship with Larkin. So maybe he actually tries more often than not, and feels accountable.

Still think that contract will age like spilt milk, but we'll see lol.

Colton is awesome so far, let's hope he can finish a little better and puts up points like Lehky instead of LOC/Calvert.

This begs the question does spilled milk spoil faster than if you just left a glass on the counter and what about the whole carton? Thank you for the insane rabbit hole I’m about to go down only to realize it’s been 4 hours when I’m done

 

[CobraAcesS]

This begs the question does spilled milk spoil faster than if you just left a glass on the counter and what about the whole carton? Thank you for the insane rabbit hole I’m about to go down only to realize it’s been 4 hours when I’m done

Or you can just wait and see what happens with JT lol.

 

[thedoctor]

I love how @Ceremony and I are completely kidding, bringing up completely dead horse topics from the last year... and somehow several people instantly take the bait and start rehashing them for the 5892437th time.

 

[Ceremony]

I love how @Ceremony and I are completely kidding, bringing up completely dead horse topics from the last year... and somehow several people instantly take the bait and start rehashing them for the 5892437th time.

I was curious to see how Jimothy was doing in Detroit so I went for a look on their board. He does all the little things! He does it consistently every night! What a contract!

 

[CobraAcesS]

I was curious to see how Jimothy was doing in Detroit so I went for a look on their board. He does all the little things! He does it consistently every night! What a contract!

Yeah I literally asked, they love him, but he has been good to start.

 

[littletonhockeycoach]

Agreed, my post had to do with when a goaler is on his game, you gotta make it tougher on him. Avs had some brilliant chances no doubt that we gotta give credit to Blackwood, but very few of those 50-ish shots had traffic or tips. A ton of them were straight at him where he kept gobbling them up. Again, Makar's GTG was due to traffic and I suggest that Avs would've been up 3-0 by the third period if they changed their game plan for those elements of traffic, tips, and rebounds. They kept trying to go for bar and downs and one-timers every single time besides the floaters from the point.

Also, Byram was by far the worst player for us yesterday IMHO.

I don't care about your "what ifs," Avs should've been 5-1 yet made it tougher on themselves than what actually happened.

That surprises you? They always put themselves in that position when they run into a hot goalie.

I enjoyed the game waiting and watching for when they finally broke the goalie. Damn entertaining. Goalies get hot sometimes. That's hockey and it keeps it interesting. There's really nothing to bitch about.......

 

[drhiii]

Used to be my favorite.

Good on ya. Milk stout... up there in my cache..