Confirmed Trade: [COL/BUF] Jonas Johansson to COL for 2021 6th round pick

[Avsavsavsavsavs]

I don't think Bernier is nearly good enough and I think he will cost way too much for the role he needs to fill on the Avs.
We would have made the WCF. True. But gotten spanked by Tampa at the very latest. Very likely would have lost to Vegas as well.

I am not trading a 1st or give up a guy like Kaut or Timmins or Ranta just to hedge against a scenario where we very, very likely have no shot to win a cup anyways regardless of what moves we make / don't make at the TDL.

You need luck to win a cup. If Grubi or Mac goes down, it just wasn't our year unfortunately once again...

The team won games this season without Mack, and the team won games last season without Grubi. Francouz had something like 21 wins last season I'm not sure where you're going with this. Bernier is actually thoroughly liked by this organization from his short stint here, and he also went on a run and stole quite a few games, a huge difference from how he played in Toronto. Detroit is in rebuild mode, they charge nothing but a C-tier prospect or a 4th-6th round draft pick for Bernier at this point.

 

[JoemAvs]

The team won games this season without Mack, and the team won games last season without Grubi. Francouz had something like 21 wins last season I'm not sure where you're going with this. Bernier is actually thoroughly liked by this organization from his short stint here, and he also went on a run and stole quite a few games, a huge difference from how he played in Toronto. Detroit is in rebuild mode, they charge nothing but a C-tier prospect or a 4th-6th round draft pick for Bernier at this point.

I am not talking about winning some games. I am talking about winning a cup. Huge difference. That means we have to go through one of Minnesota/STL, Vegas and two more division winners. Probably the hardest path we will face in a longtime. Odds are very, very high you won't have a real chance to make it through that gauntlet if either Mac or Grubi are out for longer than a game or two.

I am not hating on Bernier I just don't think he is good enough to win a cup with (Hammond thoroughly outplayed him for the Avs during that 7 game series) and he certainly is not going to be available for a 4th-6th + C-prospects. Tons of teams are looking for upgrades in goal and he is the best rental goalie on the market. Its atleast going to cost a 3rd and more likely a 2nd+ due to other teams wanting him as well.

But sure. Just ignore everything I said if we can get him for a 5th+ Leivermann and do that...
But thats not gonna happen.

 

[MarkusKetterer]

Johansson looked like a street hockey goalie against the Pens.

It doesn't matter how tall you are if you're on your knees every time the puck is near the net.

Every goalie is on their knees when the puck is near the net nowadays.

Despite their record, the Sabres played way more confident when JJ was in net than when Hutton was there. Regardless this is just a depth move for the Avs, and the 6th will be lucky to get a game in for the Sabres (he’ll definitely win the Hart once the Sabres let him go though because that’s the Sabres luck)

 

[Nihiliste]

I'm guessing the Avs are just hoping their team defense can elevate him to a .900 until Frankie can come back, since all the goalie trade targets got injured

 

[RockyMtnRedhawk]

I'm a Swede and I've never even heard of the guy. I've never heard his name on any podcast and I've never read his name on any hockey site.

That's great that you've never heard of him, but he was an early 3rd-round pick, and he was on a Sweden silver medal WJC team, so he clearly has at least some pedigree.

 

[JoeSakic13]

I'm a Swede and I've never even heard of the guy. I've never heard his name on any podcast and I've never read his name on any hockey site.

I’m 5’10” and I’ve heard of him. Checkmate sir.

 

[Hasbro]

I don’t think gunning for someone like Bernier is stupid though. That’s hedging your bets that in the (second) worst scenario you have an established former starter as your third stringer.

Problem is he’s injured at the moment and the Avalanche have a back-to-back this week.

 

[Vitto79]

I guess since he is not waiver eligible he’s Edith but they should get a vet backup

 

[Rumplesnipeskin]

Spending a 6th round pick on a goalie at the draft would likely yield similar, it just gets the Avs a goalie now versus at the draft / for the future. Probably what the Avs would have used their 6th/7th for anyhow.

Anyone who doesn’t like this for the Avs has not watched Hunter Miska play this year. Seems like it’s pretty fair for the Sabres, too

 

[PromisedLand]

The upgrade from Miska is marginal.

defensive play of sabres versus avs is not marginal though

 

[Makar Goes Fast]

Guy is going to play like 5 games max. Likely more games that who Colorado would’ve drafted with the 6th. Miska was broken and needed to go play for the eagles. Colorado is no worse off and has some possible upside.

 

[Hasbro]

Still a month until the deadline if he shits the bed too.

 

[McJedi]

defensive play of sabres versus avs is not marginal though

Misks is the single worst goalie that ever started for the Avs. And there were some lousy goalies on that list before him. Miska was significantly worse than them all.

So glad he’s gone. Dude was mentally shattered. And he was never talented of NHL capable to begin with.

 

[Kuznetsnow]

Why did Buffalo give him up for that? He looked decent enough last year

 

[tsujimoto74]

Why did Buffalo give him up for that? He looked decent enough last year

Because that's all he's worth. Guy is a capable AHL goalie, and that's it.

 

[snipes]

Eichel got pretty good value on this trade, maybe should have gone for a 5th but getting a 6th for an ECHL caliber goalie. Can’t complain I guess.

 

[Avaholic29]

Sabres fans are going to rage quit when johansson plays like a stud with an nhl calibre hockey team.

 

[Avs44]

Hiiii, refund pls.



I thought I was watching Hunter Miska again tonight.

 

[wingsfan17]

Didn't look so good his first game with the Avs.

 

[ucanthanzalthetruth]

I have no idea what Colorado is doing, it's the most important year for a backup ever, they got bitten last year by not having depth, and they make a trade for this guy. My god he's bad. 2 weak goals and I don't remember the last time a goalie went 0/3 in the shootout.

 

[RABBIT]

I think they liked his size, location, and price tag. One game is too early to tell but I would be lying if I said I thought this would be a steal for them.

 

[Avs44]

I have no idea what Colorado is doing, it's the most important year for a backup ever, they got bitten last year by not having depth, and they make a trade for this guy. My god he's bad. 2 weak goals and I don't remember the last time a goalie went 0/3 in the shootout.

I think Avs fans are as confused as you. The Avs didn't add a quality #3 in the offseason after losing both goalies last year in the playoffs...and then they lose Francouz before this season even starts (we have no idea to what)....and Sakic's #2 goalie solutions have been Hunter and now Johansson.

They're basically toast if they lose Grubauer.

 

[Ezekial]

Got absolutely toasted in the shootout.

 

[SoundwaveIsCharisma]

Got absolutely toasted in the shootout.

I think he just wanted to make the Yotes players feel good, kinda like the goalies in the KHL whenever Putin is on the ice.

 

[Bruce Granville]

Got absolutely toasted in the shootout.

There is no shootout in the playoffs.
But still Avs need a good goalie. Preferably even better then Grubauer.
Raanta might be a cheap option.