OT: COE Thread - What to do with Northlands

rboomercat90

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Mar 24, 2013
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Who knows Caterina brought it up and I though he was anti-Oilers with his whole Northlands allegiance.

Honestly, I never understood why they felt the need to change the slogan in the first place considering it was originally about the tornado effort. It's just as confusing that they want to bring it back again. I guess the council has too much time on its hands and nothing better to do.
 

Perfect_Drug

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Mar 24, 2006
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My hail mary idea is more along the lines of infrastructural development of a tech sector in Northern Alberta.

Retrofit Northlands into being a tech/dev startup hub. Offer cheap office space free wifi, free parking. Don't even bother changing the name.

Try to attract all developers across all of Canada with intense subsidies and an open opportunity to network with others in similar fields and situations.

Turn the entire floor and seating area into an open office dev floor.

This on steroids:
https://gameplayspace.com

Hire full time specialists who deal with grants and patents. (CMF?).

Turn all of the kiosks into computer hardware shops and food vendors and tons of coffee.

Turn all the skyboxes into shared meeting rooms.
 

Oil Gauge

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My hail mary idea is more along the lines of infrastructural development of a tech sector in Northern Alberta.

Retrofit Northlands into being a tech/dev startup hub. Offer cheap office space free wifi, free parking. Don't even bother changing the name.

Try to attract all developers across all of Canada with intense subsidies and an open opportunity to network with others in similar fields and situations.

Turn the entire floor and seating area into an open office dev floor.

This on steroids:
https://gameplayspace.com

Hire full time specialists who deal with grants and patents. (CMF?).

Turn all of the kiosks into computer hardware shops and food vendors and tons of coffee.

Turn all the skyboxes into shared meeting rooms.

Don't you think you could do the same thing in a warehouse for cheaper. Just the Utility costs alone to keep that building going as an office building would be crazy.
 

oilers'72

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Heard a mention on TSN 1260 that it'd be cheaper to tear the building down than to try renovating it to whatever standard they're thinking of.
 

joestevens29

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RIP Northlands Coliseum. Lots of good memories there.

We knew couple weeks ago Northlands was dead, they were still undecided on properties at that time though.

Be interesting to see what happens with that building now. Sounds like there is no point doing renos as it's cheaper to build a new building.

Didn't Northlands also enter into an agreement with the CFR lately?

Any mention of track that was suppose to continue to run until the new one is built? That's kinda the last big asset Northlands had.
 

Paralyzer

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Maybe a place for Godzilla to lay her eggs...

eggs.jpg


:laugh::laugh::laugh:
 

joestevens29

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I really want to see the hockey plex go ahead or have EEDC/Katz take control and run it as a smaller barn.

I just don't know what else they can really do with that area. Hate to see it just be knocked down and become a parking lot for nothing.

It will be interesting to see what happens once a new city council takes over in a month or two. Something tells me if Caterina is still around he'll be pushing for Northlands to get more power.
 

joestevens29

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What does this mean for Edmonton Northlands?

The article I read is that they get to run farm fair and K-Days for 5 years. Not sure what else they are going to run. They also wanted some bee hives or something by Borden park?

I really don't get why they are running anything. Couldn't ECDC just hire a consultant and continue to run those events under their name?

I can't find the one I read, but here is part of Paula Simmons article

http://edmontonjournal.com/business...simons-end-of-an-era-as-northlands-fades-away

Oh, Northlands will still exist. It will still run the K-Days summer fair for the next five years. But it will pay the city five per cent of the fair’s net income for the privilege. After those five years are up? The city says Northlands may continue to run K-Days, but only if it meets certain as-yet-to-be-determined criteria. And Northlands will still run Farmfair International, and focus on other agricultural promotions.


Edit: here is the one I read

http://edmontonjournal.com/business...il-to-mull-over-future-of-northlands-coliseum

The Northlands organization will refocus on supporting agriculture, food and added-value products in the region. It will have access to the Expo Centre to run Farmfair International and K-Days for at least five years.
 

Dorian2

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http://edmontonjournal.com/sports/h...holson-has-exciting-vision-for-old-arena-site

so apparently there is some ideas for the northlands site (which appears to involve demolition)

I really want to see the hockey plex go ahead or have EEDC/Katz take control and run it as a smaller barn.

I just don't know what else they can really do with that area. Hate to see it just be knocked down and become a parking lot for nothing.

It will be interesting to see what happens once a new city council takes over in a month or two. Something tells me if Caterina is still around he'll be pushing for Northlands to get more power.

:facepalm: = Caterina. I haven't been paying attention to this at all....but you've peaked my interest with the Caterina thing and the upcoming election. Apart from that which cannot be discussed (Politics...unless it's allowed on this thread), this quote on the Terry Jones article is something that kinda bugs me:

Nicholson’s fingerprints were all over the Hockey Canada concept creating six rinks over two floors in the building with classrooms and an academy.




The idea was approved by city council then later rejected when administration did their due diligence and discovered the $102 million cost would be more expensive than to spend the $8 million to tear down the place and build something new.

To the bolded: Doesn't sound like due diligence to me except for possibly a few key City Council Members....one who has been mentioned very recently. :naughty: How do you "discover" that a $102 million cost will be less than and $8 million tear down (sure, that part's cheaper) and building something brand new at some unspecified cost? Nicholson's $102 million is specific to what he envisions (the hockey plex). The "due diligence" is $102 - $8 = $94.

Unless their due diligence includes the cost of some unknown, unnamed, and unspecified plan....or they actually have a specific purpose in mind that was not written by Jones, it's totally meaningless IMO.

Anyone have any idea what this unspecified plan is or was that was going to be built for under $94 million bones? What is this "something new" they speak of?
 

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