Value of: Cody Ceci

[Man Bear Pig]

Ceci really hasn't been that bad. But dont let the posters in here pull out "lol told you so".

 

[CantLoseWithMatthews]

He has the worst Relative Corsi For% of any full-time defenseman on his team. Which is a recurring theme for him.

it's almost the same as Rielly's, and Ceci's relative xgf% is far better than Rielly's. Also I don't mind that his possession numbers look bad relative to the best possession team in the league

 

[biotk]

He has the worst Relative Corsi For% of any full-time defenseman on his team. Which is a recurring theme for him.

Good thing this thread happened when it did. Up until last game it had been either Rielly or Muzzin all season.

 

[CantLoseWithMatthews]

Good thing this thread happened when it did. Up until last game it had been either Rielly or Muzzin all season.

if you adjust for score, Rielly is still worse

 

[Junohockeyfan]

Who said the leafs want to trade him?

Leaf fans

 

[qqaz]

mike green 50% retained gives leafs better talent plus cap . for a propect d or c .

Mike Green would rather retire than play for Babcock again. Not going to happen.

Ceci has been fine. There's no reason for Toronto to trade him unless they add significantly for an upgrade coming back. But losing him without getting a different RHD just kills the slot allocation for the whole blueline.

 

[4thline]

They should be looking re-sign him for 2-3 years, not trade him.

A lot of people talking out of their asses ITT

 

[4thline]

He has only struggled in Toronto

Show your work

 

[stempniaksen]

You're not getting anything of value for Ceci, imo. Best course of action is to play out the year, let him walk and have Dermott/Lilly fill his spot his next season. Maybe there's a "change of scenery" type of trade out there, but I don't see why the LEafs would trade a RHD for cap at another position.

 

[4thline]

You're not getting anything of value for Ceci, imo.

Just a viable top 4 RHD that's actually winning matchup minutes despite visible kinks that need to be worked out.

 

[Tit]

I think they should try and resign him cheap.
And try and resign muzzin.

Let Barrie walk, he's going to want too much money.
Next season:

Reilly - Ceci
Muzzin - Dermott
Sandin - Liljegren

Not ideal, but it is much more feasible than trying to fit in Barrie at 7M+

 

[ole ole]

Straight up, what's his value at his current cap hit?

I'd assume a 2020 5th at best, but I'm ears for anything else.

I can't see a team even wanting him for free. He's a # 7 D-man being paid 4.5 mil a season. WTG Dubass.

 

[Langdon Alger]

Ceci really hasn't been that bad. But dont let the posters in here pull out "lol told you so".

Has he been good? To say he hasn’t been bad is not the greatest compliment.

 

[4thline]

Has he been good? To say he hasn’t been bad is not the greatest compliment.

He's winning his minutes in a top pairing role. IMO showing at about a ~4D level because with the firepower in front of him just winning the minutes isn't enough.

There's a few jokers that will call him a 7 with no support, but those posts tend to be worth the ink they're printed with.

 

[ER89]

Let the record show that Leafs fans tried to trade Ceci on the trade board before Ottawa fans tried to trade Zaitsev.

Uh leaf FAN singular. And ceci's been fine relax.

 

[ottawah]

He has the worst Relative Corsi For% of any full-time defenseman on his team. Which is a recurring theme for him.

Notably because he has the top QOC by far. Him having the worst relative corsi is exactly what would be expected.

 

[ottawah]

No one is saying he is ideal, but 5v5 for D he is 6th in the league in points, 4th P1. CF% is 55th. QOC is 10th (5th for RHD). and 13th in league for minutes.
For all situations he is 25th in points, 19th P1.

His zone start ratio is 15th worst in the league at 35.6

(all numbers reference corsica, 100 minutes, D)

So I'm not sure what people want. He plays insane minutes both on the ice and for toughness of competition, gets no PP time and is absolutely set up to fail, yet still produces top pairing points and really solid Corsi for his deployment. And at the position that may be hardest to fill in the NHL.

I agree there are times you ask yourself what was he doing (although far far less than Reilly), but to think someone with those kind of number is waiver wire fodder is foolish.

 

[nturn06]

Straight up, what's his value at his current cap hit?

I'd assume a 2020 5th at best, but I'm ears for anything else.

Ceci+++ for Zaitzev.

 

[Skid]

We had dozens of ceci value threads last year and he wouldn’t attract anything at all. Now he’s a leaf and their fans are pretending he’s been good and want something more. This isn’t shocking.
He stinks. He flat out f***ing stinks at the sport. But this trade got you out of a contract jam and you’ll be grateful for that. I can’t see a team making a move for ceci

 

[Clamshells]

It would be fantastic if Ceci played well enough to get re-signed because you just know he's going to go back to being dogs***. A polished turd is still a turd.

 

[Pyrophorus]

If that’s true, why would the leafs trade him when your rhd is weak? Ceci has not looked good at all.

Overblown. He hasn't been great, but he has been adequate.
Barrie seems to be much better than Gardiner, just from the eye test.

Ceci will walk along with others next off season, and as others have said
He'll drop down, when Dermott comes back.

 

[Pyrophorus]

Has he been good? To say he hasn’t been bad is not the greatest compliment.

We didn't say he was f***ing Chabot, we said he's been passable.
Great comments are for great players, no one is saying that.

 

[Langdon Alger]

We didn't say he was ****ing Chabot, we said he's been passable.
Great comments are for great players, no one is saying that.

I just asked a question. No need to get upset Charlie.

 

[Pyrophorus]

I just asked a question. No need to get upset Charlie.

..and then you asked about our comments.

 

[Langdon Alger]

..and then you asked about our comments.

Ok, I’m done with you. See ya.