Helene St. James Cleary could be re-signed, but not play

[tfong]

Whynot just pay him under the table or hire him as a consultant and give him the money that way? Why waste a contract on him.

 

[Vladdy84]

Why not tell him to move to Toronto and help out Mike Babcock?

 

[Frk It]

Hoping this is just some fluff, or HSJ is just trying to pump her boy's tires.

She also said Weiss is going to get a look as our 3rd line center, and then he was bought out a week later...

 

[SirloinUB]

I believe two-way contracts are capped at 925K. Going to try and look to confirm that.

Yea, I kind of figured it would be something along these lines.

 

[GoAwayDanCleary]

You'd think Mr Ilitch would be against paying a guy just because he's best friends with the GM. But what do I know.

 

[detredWINgs]

Hoping this is just some fluff, or HSJ is just trying to pump her boy's tires.

She also said Weiss is going to get a look as our 3rd line center, and then he was bought out a week later...

"Detroit isn't going to be a big player in the free agent market."

"The Wings would like to sign Nyquist to a 2-3 year deal."

"Petry's contract means Green could get $8M."

Wings journalism ****ing blows. I'd say the general opinion on any given subject on this board tends to be more accurate than what these guys spew.

With regards to Cleary, it's gotten to the point where there is no conceivable way that bringing him back is even a neutral, let alone a positive. Given the group of forwards we have in the AHL, we don't need extra veteran bodies eating up time.

 

[Vladdy84]

"Detroit isn't going to be a big player in the free agent market."

"The Wings would like to sign Nyquist to a 2-3 year deal."

"Petry's contract means Greem could get $8M."

Wings journalism ****ing blows. I'd say the general opinion on any given subject on this board tends to be more accurate than what these guys spew.

Art Regner is legit. He needs more work.

Kahn is decent.

 

[SoupNazi]

Hell, if they give me $100, I'll promise not to play for the Wings.

 

[detredWINgs]

Art Regner is legit. He needs more work.

Kahn is decent.

Don't know much about Regner. I don't like Kahn. He's a less ostentatious version of HSJ - still a hand-fed "journalist" whose best attribute is that he's smart enough to realize he can't bite the hand that feeds because so few other hands will. Pretty sure he was the one who claimed Green could see $8M, despite the fact that Green's luster faded a few years ago, taking with it the hype that generates fat contracts.

 

[Claypool]

I don't believe this story and neither should you.

 

[Heaton]

I don't believe this story and neither should you.

Sorry dude, too much smoke. It's going to happen.

 

[Bench]

If Cleary has taught me anything, it's when faced with adversity such as this, you keep calm.

 

[PullHard]

If Cleary has taught me anything, it's when faced with adversity such as this, you keep calm.

The name "Cleary" triggers me, if you could refrain from using it I would be appreciative

 

[Bench]

The name "Cleary" triggers me, if you could refrain from using it I would be appreciative

Dammit, Cleary!

 

[Vladdy84]

The name "Cleary" triggers me, if you could refrain from using it I would be appreciative

I feel your pain. It never goes away. Once I think I'm done with it. THEY PULL ME BACK IN!

 

[Retire91]

He is like a sinky fart that just won't dissipate, just too many parts per million.

This really makes no sense why wouldn't they just hire him as a consultant. Why pay him from a roster spot and hit the cap. if this happenes will there still seriously be Holland defenders?

 

[Frk It]

Dammit, Cleary!

Lol yesss.

Cleary is definitely Jerry/Gary/Larry

 

[JPE123]

Why not just give him a scouting or front office role? Janitorial? Drive the zamboni?

 

[SirloinUB]

He is like a sinky fart that just won't dissipate, just too many parts per million.

This really makes no sense why wouldn't they just hire him as a consultant. Why pay him from a roster spot and hit the cap. if this happenes will there still seriously be Holland defenders?

As frustrating as Cleary is, Its Hilarious to me, that this is a legitimate point of contention that people use to justify Holland's firing. Even if Cleary is signed to a 1.5 M contract and spends the year in the AHL counting 600,000 towards the cap, its trivial. 600,000 represents 0.84% of the salary cap ceiling. Again, its trivial. In saying that, I can admit Holland has made his share of mistakes over the last few years. But this Cleary thing (with Holland admitting Cleary will have to play in the AHL) really strikes me as a petty grievance.


However, Holland is not an idiot, and neither are the people he employs as "cap-ologists". Believe it or not, the understand the CBA better than all of us. For this reason I would bet against Cleary signing for anything more than 925,000 (baring a trade of Q/Kindl that frees up a good chunk of salary).

 

[Bench]

I still say the NHL would be down the Red Wings throat for cap circumvention if it was anybody BUT Dan Cleary. Because it's him, they are like "Uhh, I guess if they want to shoot themselves in the foot again."

 

[Lampedampe]

Z-Dats-Cleary line incoming! :3

 

[Cyborg Yzerberg]

Just hire me to be your beat writer, Free Press. I have journalism experience and hockey writing experience. I'd be a lot better than HSJ.

 

[Cyborg Yzerberg]

Meanwhile, at JLA:

 

[Flowah]

I'm not going to waste energy getting upset until it actually happens.

That said, such a move would undo all the good will Holland has earned from me this off season. Absolutely all of it. Even if he doesn't play a single NHL game, it's not like we've got tons of caproom to spare anymore. This would just compound our problem, and for a guy who would only barely be useful on an AHL squad.

 

[Shaman464]

This is Babcock's version of the upper decker prank.