Value of: Claude Giroux to Calgary

[SeanMoneyHands]

What would it take? Flames could use a real elite #1C.

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[DingDongCharlie]

Cap space? Can’t see how this could even work

 

[Dr Jan Itor]

Definitely not the 3 or 4 "ok" assets that you probably had mind.

 

[Ledge And Dairy]

This is incredibly unrealistic, also a complete overreaction. Monahan is hardly the problem, he currently has a 7.4 s% which is way below average, that will certainly fix itself, he has a 60% FO% playing against the best centers in the league. Let the numbers even out first before you freak out again.

 

[CapnZin]

Whatever you don’t want to give up +.

Giroux isn’t the problem in Philadelphia. Getting rid of him for someone who can’t replicate what he brings to the table is an immediate loss.

There aren’t many players in the league as overlooked as G is.

 

[BatVader]

I love overreactions in the first month of hockey.. lol
Don’t see either team considering this.

 

[Djp]

Does zgiroux even play center now?

 

[viper0220]

What would it take? Flames could use a real elite #1C.

The Flames are not getting Giroux. It would take a shit ton of assets, that this organization does not have.

 

[DFF]

Giroux for Johnny

 

[Limeyjim]

Giroux for Johnny

In a minute! The only trouble is that Giroux has a damn NMC in his contract (thanks to Paul Holmgren). Unfortunately the Flyers are married to Giroux.

 

[treple13]

Giroux for Johnny

This is exactly why the deal doesn't happen. Calgary isn't doing that, but what else entices the Flyers?

It'd probably take Gaudreau, Tkachuk or Monahan for Philly to accept and Calgary does none of those three due to age and contracts

 

[CraigsList]

Would rather go for Couts, which is not happening.

 

[Starat327]

If you're looking for an elite 1C, it ain't Giroux. The only one of those we have is Couturier and he certainly isnt available.

 

[HockeyDBspecialist]

Phily gotta trade their older players and retool on the fly.


Trade Patrick and Voracek.

 

[nbwingsfan]

Giroux isn’t even really a C anymore.

 

[BrindamoursNose]

What would it take? Flames could use a real elite #1C.

He doesn't play C anymore.

He can still play, but he doesn't.

 

[BrindamoursNose]

Phily gotta trade their older players and retool on the fly.


Trade Patrick and Voracek.

??????????????

 

[Gatorbait19]

The question is - when does Philly commit to the rebuild? Way too early to panic now, but their moves the last few years (along with Patrick’s lack of success) have made it that much more difficult to go that route.

If the flyers do trade Giroux though, it signals a whole tear down where they will have to trade Voracek and possibly Couts too. I just don’t see that happening this year.

If the Flyers did go that route, I could see the Avs interested in Giroux and give up at least a 1st + Jost for him. Not sure if that’s enough, but the return may be limited regardless due to Giroux’s nmc.

 

[BrindamoursNose]

The question is - when does Philly commit to the rebuild? Way too early to panic now, but their moves the last few years (along with Patrick’s lack of success) have made it that much more difficult to go that route.

If the flyers do trade Giroux though, it signals a whole tear down where they will have to trade Voracek and possibly Couts too. I just don’t see that happening this year.

If the Flyers did go that route, I could see the Avs interested in Giroux and give up at least a 1st + Jost for him. Not sure if that’s enough, but the return may be limited regardless due to Giroux’s nmc.

Why would we rebuild?

Based on talent, we really have all our pieces in place to compete for multiple years. Just a matter of them all coming together (plus Patrick being healthy).

 

[Baxterman]

Giroux makes no sense for Calgary for so many reasons, salary, acquisition cost, age.

Plus the whole matter of Philly potentially not even wanting to move him.

 

[Gatorbait19]

Why would we rebuild?

Based on talent, we really have all our pieces in place to compete for multiple years. Just a matter of them all coming together (plus Patrick being healthy).

It’s all about timing and putting together a team that has a legit chance at a cup. I’m not so sure the flyers will have a window for that in the next few years. The forward core is starting to age and not getting any younger. Some good young pieces, but if the flyers look like they’re missing the playoffs this year, the smart move is to give it serious consideration.

To me, this all turns on Patrick. If he can put it together and be the No. 2 you thought he was, then that window will open.

 

[Dooble08]

It’s all about timing and putting together a team that has a legit chance at a cup. I’m not so sure the flyers will have a window for that in the next few years. The forward core is starting to age and not getting any younger. Some good young pieces, but if the flyers look like they’re missing the playoffs this year, the smart move is to give it serious consideration.

To me, this all turns on Patrick. If he can put it together and be the No. 2 you thought he was, then that window will open.

Going into a rebuild after 6 games (where they've outplayed the other team in 5 of them) would be a huge mistake. After signing Hayes and trading for Braun and Niskanen, the Flyers aren't going into a rebuild this season.

 

[Curufinwe]

The question is - when does Philly commit to the rebuild?

Not this year, or next year, or the one after that.

 

[leafsloverblahblah]

Giroux for Johnny

actully each team gets a playmaker winger with good numbers.
but it's a loss for calgary. and it's a huge trade if this is close to happening. id think WOW but then again it's a playmaker trade thats like matthews for oveckhin there is no up because both score goals off one timers but a diffrent side and if this deal (giroux for johnny) happens both teams get the exact same player like kessel for seguin both can shoot but also can pass really good but they mainly rely on there shot. so it probably will never happen because its like trading a two rocks that are the same.

 

[Gatorbait19]

Going into a rebuild after 6 games (where they've outplayed the other team in 5 of them) would be a huge mistake. After signing Hayes and trading for Braun and Niskanen, the Flyers aren't going into a rebuild this season.

I said in a previous post it’s way to early to hit the panic button, but if it’s January and this team, which was billed and built as a team that’s ready to compete, is in the bottom third of the league, where do you go?