Chychrun Megathread IV
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It was discussed on here for months. It was suggested he was one of the players of four pieces that BA wanted. BA stated months ago he wanted four pieces for Chychrun, and that's when all these trade proposals popped up. Many were adamant we get four pieces. Now all of a sudden we are talking one for one, with that one being a draft pick.
The key word is "wanted". Highly doubtful he was ever part of any package.
It's not exactly certain that Chychrun is a "sure thing", it's now 1 really good season out of 6 with a few decent ones in there.
My point was that there were many deals discussed here with four pieces coming back for Chick, not just from the Panthers. We will find out the true value of Chick very soon.
That was media hype that imo was driven by Bill feeding Marek whatever info he wanted to get out. If anyone had offered anywhere near the reported ask Chychrun would have been long gone.
FWIW, The Fourth Period guys (Pagnotta & Bernstein) on their SiriusXM radio show today were saying it’s less likely they trade Provorov now with a new coach & system coming in.
They also had a Flyers writer on who was saying their priority is a scoring F unless Ellis looks like he’s not going to be able to play in which case they may turn their attention to RD (and used Dumba as an example).
PHI could be really selling low on Provorov, and I don’t see a fit here unless they’re going to be spending so heavily on other players that even besides dumpling JVR, they still need more cap space and the savings of Chychrun vs Provorov and the hoops they’d have to jump through to do it.
They also had a Flyers writer on who was saying their priority is a scoring F unless Ellis looks like he’s not going to be able to play in which case they may turn their attention to RD (and used Dumba as an example).
PHI could be really selling low on Provorov, and I don’t see a fit here unless they’re going to be spending so heavily on other players that even besides dumpling JVR, they still need more cap space and the savings of Chychrun vs Provorov and the hoops they’d have to jump through to do it.
We have 2 blueliners on the Coyotes listed over 200 lbs. One is Timmins...
...so much, for getting big and mean!
Signing Livingstone and keeping Chychrun would solidify the defense.
...so much, for getting big and mean!
Signing Livingstone and keeping Chychrun would solidify the defense.
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rt
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I would rather have Provorov.
He is more well-rounded player and do not have injuries concern.
I do not believe 50% retention for the next 3 years of Chychrun has value for Kings
I would add nothing to Chychrun beside Durzi and 19th
That's not my point. Posters here were making up deals left right and center that had a 4 for 1, and most were certain Chick was worth that. Now, after the rumors have died down, many are talking one for one, with the one being a draft pick. That is a far cry from the original made up deals. You, I and the rest of the fans have no idea what Chick is worth, but we are going to find out pretty soon. Thank god.
Even if you like Provorov better than Chychrun, I cannot believe, at all, that Provorov @ $6.75M vs Chychrun @ 2.3 is not material to the Kings when they're also planning to pursue some big name forwards by UFA or trade, especially in the flat cap environment we'll be in for the next 2-3 years.
LA can trade Iafallo to erase this difference
He has some value around the league, but not really needed by Kings now.
I still suspect that GMBA values Chychrun so highly that ..."no team offered enough to pry him from the Coyotes"...
This will be the presser on July 8th.
This will be the presser on July 8th.
I get that, but that's also one player. The $4.5M savings between Provorv and Chychrun would still be very signficant. There's still a lot of players LAK will have to extend this year and next, in addition to players they'd like to add by trade or UFA. So I can't imagine $4.5M in cap not being very valuable.
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But we're now also closer to the draft, where picks now are having higher value. Because we now know where exactly we would pick if we got LA's or OTT's picks...
And furthermore I don't have a problem with people adjusting their expectations during recent months, do you?
Iafallo’s salary $4M per year can be traded for low draft pick, which should fix the issue
Walker can be traded as well...
Have you considered they could do both and use that Iafallo money to fix another issue?
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Keep Chychrun, snag Johnny Hockey and Slafkovsky. Load up on D in the draft and 3/4 of the rebuild is done. Center and goaltender in the 23 draft
I have no problem with people changing their opinions. I just find it kind of funny many were saying Chick was worth four quality pieces because of what BA said, and now it's down to one for one.
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Bottom three is the goal. This can’t happen. No Johnny, no Chychrun, no Slafkovsky, Nemec, Jiricek, Cooley playing meaningful games in 2022-2023.
Another bottom feeding year with players like Ladd and Kassian playing top line minutes
moosemeister
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Please see posts #8 and #17 of this thread, as it’s been answered there.
I’ve always much preferred Nemec and have concerns about Jiricek’s skating, unless our trainers & medical staff think he has all the physical development potential necessary to improve it, or whether he has physical/structural limitations. That’s what the combine and its medical testing (not fitiness testing) is there to provide insight into.
I would try to get SEA to pass on Nemec (give them a 2nd rounder) so we could draft him if he is the guy they were planning on taking.
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Me personally, I’d go Nemec at 3 and Gauthier at 5, but I know this take is frowned upon here. Haha
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