Confirmed with Link: Chuck Fletcher out as GM, Danny Briere goes from assistant to the regional manager to interim president/GM

[Ghosts Beer]

There were multiple reports about Hextall overruling his scouts to take Patrick, years before Bob Clarke confirmed it.

But yeah, sure, it’s all a big “lie” by that evil Bob Clarke.

The lengths people go to to defend Hextall (& in particular one of the biggest mistakes in franchise history) never cease to astound me.

 

[Beef Invictus]

so cutting edge. by the way I mentioned that.


is that fact or opinion?

It's fact. He's changed his story. He's lied at some point or at both points

 

[Beef Invictus]

There were multiple reports about Hextall overruling his scouts to take Patrick, years before Bob Clarke confirmed it.

But yeah, sure, it’s all a big “lie” by that evil Bob Clarke.

The lengths people go to to defend Hextall (& in particular one of the biggest mistakes in franchise history) never cease to astound me.

Bob Clarke has always been the source.

Nobody is defending Hextall, they're just debunking your complete scapegoating of him for everything Fletcher ruined. And also debunking the lies about him.

We can criticize Hextall without relying on lies. We have done so for many years. You have to rely on lies for some reason.

 

[BackToTheBrierePatch]

Even with his faults Hextall is here longer if he would of fired Hak. Would he still be here? Probably not, but I think it would of lessened the chance they would of hired the turd that followed him

 

[Striiker]

Fletcher is worse than Hextall. Not debatable.

All the flaws, plus many more, and none of the positives.

And whining about the Patrick pick kills any argument because it proves he needs to reach, lie, and rely on hindsight to try to prove his nonexistent point.

ESPECIALLY WHEN HE PERSONALLY WANTED TO PICK PATRICK AT THE TIME TOO.

 

[FlyerNutter]

Interesting to me to have Friedman go out of his way to defend Dave Brown on the nasty knuckles pod.

Rat trying to stay aboard the ship.

 

[Beef Invictus]

Fletcher is worse than Hextall. Not debatable.

All the flaws, plus many more, and none of the positives.

And whining about the Patrick pick kills any argument because it proves he needs to reach, lie, and rely on hindsight to try to prove his nonexistent point.

ESPECIALLY WHEN HE PERSONALLY WANTED TO PICK PATRICK AT THE TIME TOO.

Nitpicking with hindsight is the weakest of critiques.

 

[Striiker]

@JojoTheWhale Clearly the worst mistake in franchise history, by the way. Hextall is such an idiot for wanting Patrick back in 2017.

 

[JojoTheWhale]

Oh dear.

 

[JojoTheWhale]

Interesting to me to have Friedman go out of his way to defend Dave Brown on the nasty knuckles pod.

Rat trying to stay aboard the ship.

Brown's their Pro Scouting guy, right? We'll never know exactly who was responsible for what, but you can't exactly call that a strength. Sheesh.

 

[Starat327]

@JojoTheWhale Clearly the worst mistake in franchise history, by the way. Hextall is such an idiot for wanting Patrick back in 2017.

Someone obviously hacked his account.

Or he meant to Post those from his burner and forgot to switch

 

[blackjackmulligan]

It's fact. He's changed his story. He's lied at some point or at both points

Chivalry isn't dead. its not a fact, only in the narrative you push. Ronald overruled the scouts. Accept it

 

[Ghosts Beer]

Bob Clarke has always been the source.

Oh yeah? Who told you that?

 

[Beef Invictus]

Chivalry isn't dead. its not a fact, only in the narrative you push. Ronald overruled the scouts. Accept it

There was no scout consensus. Going against the Patrick pick is hindsight and its silly. Accept that.

 

[Beef Invictus]

Oh yeah? Who told you that?

Clarke being the only guy to ever talk about it, aside from the other leaks saying "yeah, that isn't how it happened?"

Putting blind trust into anything Clarke has to say when he has an axe to grind is peak foolishness. Clarke is unfiltered sewage as a human being. He has no scruples, no morals. He is a narcissist who freely and eagerly lies to suit his own purposes. This has been the case forever.

The only thing that approaches it in foolishness, is using hindsight to slam Hextall for a decision you vigorously supported.

 

[Ghosts Beer]

Clarke being the only guy to ever talk about it, aside from the other leaks saying "yeah, that isn't how it happened?"

Putting blind trust into anything Clarke has to say when he has an axe to grind is peak foolishness. Clarke is unfiltered sewage as a human being. He has no scruples, no morals. He is a narcissist who freely and eagerly lies to suit his own purposes. This has been the case forever.

Ah, so you are stating something as fact — “Bob Clarke has always been the source” — that you do not know for a fact.

And you have the audacity to accuse others of lying.

 

[Beef Invictus]

Ah, so you are stating something as fact — “Bob Clarke has always been the source” — that you do not know for a fact.

And you have the audacity to accuse others of lying.

Bob Clarke is the one who talked about it! Holy shit!

Why do you ignore the other sources who dispute his account? Oh right. Inconvenient for your agenda.

 

[blackjackmulligan]

There was no scout consensus. Going against the Patrick pick is hindsight and its silly. Accept that.

Keep pushing.

Clarke being the only guy to ever talk about it, aside from the other leaks saying "yeah, that isn't how it happened?"

Putting blind trust into anything Clarke has to say when he has an axe to grind is peak foolishness. Clarke is unfiltered sewage as a human being. He has no scruples, no morals. He is a narcissist who freely and eagerly lies to suit his own purposes. This has been the case forever.

The only thing that approaches it in foolishness, is using hindsight to slam Hextall for a decision you vigorously supported.

slam Hextall lol. Yeah he really slammed him. Honesty hurts at times.

 

[Starat327]

Clarke being the only guy to ever talk about it, aside from the other leaks saying "yeah, that isn't how it happened?"

Putting blind trust into anything Clarke has to say when he has an axe to grind is peak foolishness. Clarke is unfiltered sewage as a human being. He has no scruples, no morals. He is a narcissist who freely and eagerly lies to suit his own purposes. This has been the case forever.

The only thing that approaches it in foolishness, is using hindsight to slam Hextall for a decision you vigorously supported.

I dont know. I'd make the argument that having this conversation with him is close to comparable as well.

 

[Mayo Masseuse]

There were multiple reports about Hextall overruling his scouts to take Patrick, years before Bob Clarke confirmed it.

But yeah, sure, it’s all a big “lie” by that evil Bob Clarke.

The lengths people go to to defend Hextall (& in particular one of the biggest mistakes in franchise history) never cease to astound me.

You are a bad trollolololo

People with half a brain were calling for Booby to step away from the org in 00's.

Hextall made some serious f*** ups, there's no doubt about it, but a half-witted Helen Keller could make notice of why he cut out the turds at the top.

 

[Ghosts Beer]

Bob Clarke is the one who talked about it! Holy shit!

That the scouts’ consensus was to take one of the defensemen (Heiskanen/Makar) & Hextall overruled them to take Patrick had been reported long before Clarke’s interview.

San Filippo reported it. Meltzer reported it. Others reported it.

At least a year or more before Clarke mentioned it.

But apparently you know for a fact that Bob Clarke was the source for all of these stories. Oh, & that he lied.

 

[JojoTheWhale]

I feel like I'm going to say this more than once, but I think everyone should read Meltzer's quote again and really think about what he did and didn't say. I may disagree on hockey matters, but Bill is careful to say exactly what he means.

 

[Beef Invictus]

Keep pushing.


slam Hextall lol. Yeah he really slammed him. Honesty hurts at times.

You're talking about a guy who blames Hextall for everything Fletcher did.

 

[Beef Invictus]

That the scouts’ consensus was to take one of the defensemen (Heiskanen/Makar) & Hextall overruled them to take Patrick had been reported long before Clarke’s interview.

San Filippo reported it. Meltzer reported it. Others reported it.

At least a year or more before Clarke mentioned it.

But apparently you know for a fact that Bob Clarke was the source for all of these stories. Oh, & that he lied.

Clarke. Was. The Source. The media leaks began again the second Clarke was involved again.

How old are you? Are you this ignorant of Clarke and how he works?

Why do you discount the competing reports that contradict Clarke?

And to whip it out here, let's remember that in matters where we have disagreed for the last 4-6 years, I've ended up being right every single time.

 

[blackjackmulligan]

You're talking about a guy who blames Hextall for everything Fletcher did.

yeah he slammed in in that minute an a half interview. Poor Ronald.

Hopefully they hire Ronald back as an advisor when he is canned after their season. They are going to need a new era of advisors.

What 4 new advisors should replace the old ones?

That the scouts’ consensus was to take one of the defensemen (Heiskanen/Makar) & Hextall overruled them to take Patrick had been reported long before Clarke’s interview.

San Filippo reported it. Meltzer reported it. Others reported it.

At least a year or more before Clarke mentioned it.

But apparently you know for a fact that Bob Clarke was the source for all of these stories. Oh, & that he lied.

Not sure why it is hard to believe he overruled the scouts. GM's do it all the time. Ronald did. Time to move on from it.

Here is a funny story, when the flyers drafted McLoughlin, Fletcher had no idea who he was..