Proposal: Chris Tanev to the Leafs next offseason

[Peter Griffin]

keep him lmao

You say this like it's Canucks' fans looking to move Tanev. It's the opposite, it's Leafs fans wanting him.

 

[Superlative Soup]

keep him lmao

Perfect!

 

[rodney dangerfield]

Larsson > Tanev. Younger, more durable, better shot, hits more, better defensively. Just because that idiot Chairelli overpaid for Larsson doesn't mean every GM has to overpay now. The OP offer is very fair.

 

[Addison Rae]

Larsson > Tanev. Younger, more durable, better shot, hits more, better defensively. Just because that idiot Chairelli overpaid for Larsson doesn't mean every GM has to overpay now. The OP offer is very fair.

Better defensively is just plain and simply wrong.

 

[rodney dangerfield]

Better defensively is just plain and simply wrong.

Fine, they are equally great defensively.

 

[go4hockey]

An unprotected first for Chris Tanev? No thanks.

For the old Leafies in the crowd, this would be the Tom Kurvers trade all over again: a 27 y.o. former 7th round pick top-pairing defenceman from New Jersey for an unprotected Toronto first that turned into Scott Niedermayer.

Tanev is too old (26 y.o.) and not good enough to pay that price, no matter what pairing the Canucks play him on.

Not interested.

Kurvers was never a top pair defenseman and you way under value Tanev. Tanev is more a top pairing guy than Kurvers ever was. He would instantly be the Leafs best Dman.

 

[Tryamkin]

Larsson > Tanev. Younger, more durable, better shot, hits more, better defensively. Just because that idiot Chairelli overpaid for Larsson doesn't mean every GM has to overpay now. The OP offer is very fair.

Please prove that statement.

 

[go4hockey]

Larsson > Tanev. Younger, more durable, better shot, hits more, better defensively. Just because that idiot Chairelli overpaid for Larsson doesn't mean every GM has to overpay now. The OP offer is very fair.

Tanev is better defensively than Larsson. And neither guy brings much offensive flash.

 

[Bourne Endeavor]

Easy pass... what do you expect for Tanev. Do you honestly think he will net more than a top 10 pick + blue chip prospect for 3 years of Tanev?

A one for one swap of Nylander or Marner. There is no other reason Vancouver would trade Tanev. If you aren't willing to offer that, then the conversation ends. We have no interest in a quantity package. I will say, this is better than most offers, especially from Toronto. Frankly, my biggest contention with it is we have no guarantee where that first ends up. 4-5th? Then the package isn't anything to snub at. 10th? I'd rather Tanev.

Larsson > Tanev. Younger, more durable, better shot, hits more, better defensively. Just because that idiot Chairelli overpaid for Larsson doesn't mean every GM has to overpay now. The OP offer is very fair.

If you actually looked up Tanev's advanced stats, you'd quickly see he's among the best defensive defensemen in the league. It simply doesn't garner much credit because he isn't flashy.

 

[rodney dangerfield]

Please prove that statement.

Adam Larsson posted a 25.10 SA60 (which was 8th, just ahead of Tanev, in the entire league for defensemen playing over 750 minutes) playing more minutes in his own zone than Tanev, playing more games and playing on the first PK unit.

 

[LEAFANFORLIFE23]

Tanev is better defensively than Larsson. And neither guy brings much offensive flash.

Hence why neither guy is a top pairing d man, top pairing d men need to bring some level of offence

 

[LEAFANFORLIFE23]

A one for one swap of Nylander or Marner. There is no other reason Vancouver would trade Tanev. If you aren't willing to offer that, then the conversation ends. We have no interest in a quantity package.



If you actually looked up Tanev's advanced stats, you'd quickly see he's among the best defensive defensemen in the league. It simply doesn't garner much credit because he isn't flashy.

This is why I don't want him because people actually believe he's worth a TOP young talent

 

[rodney dangerfield]

Hence why neither guy is a top pairing d man, top pairing d men need to bring some level of offence

This. Just because Larsson got Taylor Hall doesnt mean all defensive minded #2-3 RD are worth elite wingers, it was an gross overpayment because Edmonton was desperate.

 

[NoRaise4Brackett]

Canucks aren't rebuilding, they want a young NHL forward if they are going to move Tanev. If Marner/Nylander are off the table, I think the next ask would be Kadri+. Personally, I'd at least entertain the idea of it, as it would be nice to have Kadri and Horvat at centre... but I have no idea what WillieD is doing with Sutter, so that might not be an option either... and I'm not sure I want to move Tanev

 

[Halla]

You don't even offer your 2017 1st round pick. Good stuff...

For the millionth time, easy pass for the Canucks. No Nylander/Marner, no Tanev to Toronto.

nah, we probably keep our calder candidates.
if they are to move one of those rookies, it would have top be for a young stud 2 way dman. tanev isnt that

 

[Canadian Canuck]

Unless this first is top 5 then huge **** no.

Same story either every Tanev to Toronto thread. Marner or Nylander coming back or no deal. Get it in your head Leafs fans. You can "lol" or laugh all you like. But we're not moving our top pairing shutdown dean entering his prime for quantity, we need quality or gtfo

 

[vanarchy]

I would not give the 1st round pick alone for Tanev! No ****ing way.

lmaooooo

This right here is why our two fanbases should never make proposals with each other. Ever.

 

[Halla]

Unless this first is top 5 then huge **** no.

Same story either every Tanev to Toronto thread. Marner or Nylander coming back or no deal. Get it in your head Leafs fans. You can "lol" or laugh all you like. But we're not moving our top pairing shutdown dean entering his prime for quantity, we need quality or gtfo

If the nucks wanted Nylander, they should have just drafted him.
they dont have the assets to get one of these guys now, unless they wanna move juolevi + their 1st.

tanev doesnt get you anything close to one of the big 3. shut er' down

 

[Halla]

lmaooooo

This right here is why our two fanbases should never make proposals with each other. Ever.

that pick is 1 pt away from being top 3....laugh all you want, but tanev isnt returning a lottery pick

 

[clunk]

Larsson better defensively than Tanev .

It's like when the Oilers finally get a half decent defensive d-man, they will overrate him so much that they'll proclaim him actually better at defense than Chris Tanev, a top 3 defensive d-man in the league

 

[Bourne Endeavor]

that pick is 1 pt away from being top 3....laugh all you want, but tanev isnt returning a lottery pick

The OP's pick was 2018. For all we know, Toronto could be decent, especially with rookie development a year in and adding Tanev. That makes it far too much of a gamble on our part.

This. Just because Larsson got Taylor Hall doesnt mean all defensive minded #2-3 RD are worth elite wingers, it was an gross overpayment because Edmonton was desperate.

Right. Hence why we're asking for Nylander or Marner. Neither are elite yet.

If the nucks wanted Nylander, they should have just drafted him.
they dont have the assets to get one of these guys now, unless they wanna move juolevi + their 1st.

tanev doesnt get you anything close to one of the big 3. shut er' down

You make this post, then claim we overrate our players? Nylander sits at only 17 points through 26 games, in his first NHL season and he's worth a top three pick and a top tier defense prospect? Now that's rich. Edmonton wasn't desperate when they traded for Larrson, HF simply VASTLY overrates younger players.

 

[CherryToke]

Nylander for Tanev.

Leafs should jump on this before Nylander's new toy shine wears off.

 

[turkulad]

A one for one swap of Nylander or Marner. There is no other reason Vancouver would trade Tanev. If you aren't willing to offer that, then the conversation ends. We have no interest in a quantity package.

This. Toronto fans can argue all they want about what Tanev is and isn't. At the end of the day, the value you put him on him doesn't change the value he has in Vancouver. Not offering a good enough 1-for-1 deal for a forward? Well then there is no trade, not even a discussion.

 

[Man Bear Pig]

All great examples of Leafs fans overrating there own guys while underrating other teams players. Happens every time.


This is not a good trade for Vancouver. Kapanen is a solid prospect but he's not elite by any means.

That 1st rounder would not be Top 10 if this trade happened. The Leafs would be significantly better next year with the young kids being more accustomed to the league, while Tanev would be the Leafs best Dman and immediately turn that back end around substantially. He and Tanev would make for a significantly better Top pairing then what they have right now.


Vancouver fans are absolutely right to laugh at this offer. It's not enough.

Funny how things work. Weren't you and other Avs fans going crazy telling how elite Rantanen was/is given his AHL production. Kapanen posts similar numbers at a similar age...nah he's just okay. Nothing special. No bias on your part though. Nope. You practically drool when you see these threads.

 

[LEAFANFORLIFE23]

This. Toronto fans can argue all they want about what Tanev is and isn't. At the end of the day, the value you put him on him doesn't change the value he has in Vancouver. Not offering a good enough 1-for-1 deal for a forward? Well then there is no trade, not even a discussion.

This Leaf fan is completely fine with that if the price is Marner or Nylander