News Article: Chicago Blackhawks: Stan Bowman's 7 Worst Trades as GM

[idontusethisanymore]

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[Callidusblackhawk]

The Big Buff, Brouwer and Frolik trades are on the list....

This might be one of the 7 worst articles I've ever read.

 

[Hawkaholic]

The Big Buff, Brouwer and Frolik trades are on the list....

This might be one of the 7 worst articles I've ever read.

LOL - yeah, I'm not bothering.

 

[Esq]

Stopped reading at the first trade. The Buff trade was fine at the time. He was a luxury we couldn't afford. And how do you write this article with Buff suspended and sitting at home? Who's to say he wouldn't have done the same to the Hawks?

 

[CallMeShaft]

Blackhawkup? No thank you. Those writers aren't any better than the majority of posters here.

 

[Toews2Bickell]

Frolik was one of Stan's best trades. Jack Skille was barely a 13F for many years after that deal and Frolik turned into a pretty solid top 9 forward and a big part of that shutdown line in 2013. And he flipped Brouwer for Philip Danault, another very good trade.

 

[Backyard Hockey]

Stan once traded me a Babe Ruth rookie card for a pack of Kool menthols.

By far his worst

 

[Callidusblackhawk]

Frolik was one of Stan's best trades. Jack Skille was barely a 13F for many years after that deal and Frolik turned into a pretty solid top 9 forward and a big part of that shutdown line in 2013. And he flipped Brouwer for Philip Danault, another very good trade.

I should clarify. It was trading Frolik away for a 3rd and a 5th that was on the list.

 

[BK]

That article was trash and the writer is a legit idiot based on other stuff he has done. He is JJ level trash.

 

[DisgruntledHawkFan]

“If you were already on the #FireBowman bandwagon, you might be now.”

This person gets money for this?

 

[Blackhawkswincup]

In no particular order

- Rundblad trade
- Hjalmarsson trade
- Saad trade (To Columbus)
- Panarin trade
- Danault trade
- TT trade
- Joker trade

HM
- Leddy trade (To Isles)
- Sharp/Johns trade

Ladd , Byfuglien and Steeger deals were one's I dont hold him as harshly for given how terrible the cap situation was in 2010 and he got good value in deals just piss poor drafting and scouting resulted in Hawks having nothing to show from it (As well as Hayes being asshole)

TT trade was all result of poor cap choices by Stanley and him painting himself in corner

 

[Blackhawks]

In no particular order

- Rundblad trade
- Leddy trade (To Islanders)
- Saad trade (To Columbus)
- Panarin trade
- Danault trade
- TT trade
- Joker trade

Ladd , Byfuglien and Steeger deals were one's I dont hold him as harshly for given how terrible the cap situation was in 2010 and he got good value in deals just piss poor drafting and scouting resulted in Hawks having nothing to show from it (As well as Hayes being *******)

TT trade was all result of poor cap choices by Stanley and him painting himself in corner

Add these to the mix and Hammer trade trumps the Rundblad in top 7

Hammer trade
Sharp trade
Not bringing back Oduya once up
Timmonen

I am sure I am forgetting a bunch

 

[Blackhawkswincup]

Forgot about Hammer trade

 

[BK]

Murphy has been as good or better than Hammer since the trade...

 

[x Tame Impala]

The Danault trade and the Sharp trade (including the subsequent web of trades following) were the two worst.

 

[Callidusblackhawk]

Murphy has been as good or better than Hammer since the trade...

He's also played in more games. If you're rounding out a list of bad trades with the Hammer trade you might as well just make your list smaller.

 

[x Tame Impala]

What do you guys think of the Saad-Panarin trade in retrospect? Should we have just kept Panarin? I doubt he'd sign for an $11.6 AAV if he stayed here. Easily would've cost $9-$10m AAV though

 

[Cubs2024WSChamps]

I'm under the assumption that the guy who wrote that drivel also posts here regularly.

Good job, can't tell the difference (thumbs up)

 

[ColdSteel2]

What do you guys think of the Saad-Panarin trade in retrospect? Should we have just kept Panarin? I doubt he'd sign for an $11.6 AAV if he stayed here. Easily would've cost $9-$10m AAV though

My thoughts at the time:

Panarin seemed to be hypnotized by Kane and wasn’t as much the game breaker he was in year 2 as year 1. That said, the Kane/Panarin duo was still highly effective at scoring goals.

I perceived that team as a non playoff roster being carried primarily by the dynamic duo’s timely scoring and Crawford’s goaltending. Then down the stretch, Kane helped Panarin get his bonuses with a strong finish. I was very skeptical their formula would translate in the playoffs and it didn’t. Panarin was invisible, and with the bonus tacked on, he was set to make 9-10M the following season. Having Panarin on the team seemed like it was going to keep the Hawks in purgatory, effective in the regular season but ineffective in the playoffs.

I was curious to see if the team would fall apart without him and was shocked that Bowman actually traded Panarin. I thought he was seeing the same things and getting a rugged playoff type player signed long term like Saad made a lot of sense. If Saad took a leap forward, they could potentially be a better team in the playoffs. If not, they could begin rebuilding, which seemed needed at the time.

My thoughts now:

I was wrong to put so much stock into Panarin’s second year. He showed the year before and has ever since that he is an elite player and a game breaker. It did seem like Kane and Panarin went out of their way setting up one timers to try to get Panarin’s bonuses and that was ok. That’s one of the primary reasons they take the ice, to make money. I overreacted to that aspect of Panarin’s season. Saad didn’t progress, Panarin did, and the Hawks got robbed in that trade.

On the plus side, it did usher in the rebuild. For that, it was worth losing him because it helped the team get Boqvist and Dach.

If they end up cashing in their chips this TD and fully commit to finishing the rebuild, there are no regrets. If they don’t do that, then yeah, I do wish we still had Panarin because he is an elite player and they may have been able to eventually build a Cup winning team around him. It may have required separating him from Kane at even strength, but clearly the guy can carry his own line.

 

[ChiHawk21]

brutal article

 

[No Fun Shogun]

“If you were already on the #FireBowman bandwagon, you might be now.”

This person gets money for this?

Yeah.... that alone was almost enough to make me not read it.

Pretty brutal hot take.

 

[Hawkaholic]

Murphy has been as good or better than Hammer since the trade...

Better offensively, not defensively.

	GP	CF%	FF%	SF%	xGF%	SCF%	HDCF%	OZS%
CM	99	49.86	49.53	49.05	46.68	47.83	44.13	43.62
NH	101	48.96	50.24	50.24	50.75	49.92	47.71	39.26

[TBODY] [/TBODY]

 

[BK]

Better offensively, not defensively.

	GP	CF%	FF%	SF%	xGF%	SCF%	HDCF%	OZS%
CM	99	49.86	49.53	49.05	46.68	47.83	44.13	43.62
NH	101	48.96	50.24	50.24	50.75	49.92	47.71	39.26

[TBODY] [/TBODY]

That looks pretty even to me.

 

[Hawkaholic]

That looks pretty even to me.

Not really, it favours Hammer pretty well. Especially considering he starts in the D zone more often.

 

[BK]

Not really, it favours Hammer pretty well. Especially considering he starts in the D zone more often.

43% to 39%?

The numbers are very even.